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Post Post #1925 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:36 pm

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Are you going to withhold your protect target (or lack of target) - since you're doc/watcher?
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Post Post #1926 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:38 pm

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I will.
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Post Post #1927 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:51 pm

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Wow it just doesn't add up that Desp claimed April Wingate when his partner was June Wingate

My first thought after the flip was "Desp might have been a traitor?"
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Post Post #1928 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:30 pm

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In post 1925, Bert wrote:Are you going to withhold your protect target (or lack of target) - since you're doc/watcher?
Why have lack of target here?
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Post Post #1929 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:33 pm

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I'd like to know if I'm poisoned so I can decide whether or not to spam the day with cryptic poetry.
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Post Post #1930 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:46 pm

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In post 1928, Tammy wrote:
In post 1925, Bert wrote:Are you going to withhold your protect target (or lack of target) - since you're doc/watcher?
Why have lack of target here?
I am under the impression that doctor/watcher - you get to choose one option only, much like JOAT?
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Post Post #1931 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:49 pm

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Oh no. I watch whoever I protect.
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Post Post #1932 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:49 pm

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So night one, I protected nacho and watched him as well.
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Post Post #1933 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:05 pm

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Interesting. Never have seen such a role in-game.
In post 1929, projectmatt wrote:I'd like to know if I'm poisoned so I can decide whether or not to spam the day with cryptic poetry.
I derive pleasure from reading Empire's reactions that come along with your poetry:
In post 1886, projectmatt wrote:Valiantly, I say unto thee -

Shall the scum suffer defeat?

I solemnly declare a most dreadful day -

if we refuse to hang Inte!
In post 1889, Empire wrote:bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt, laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame.
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Post Post #1934 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:08 pm

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So, I've been trying to make sense of this since day start and I think scum no killed last night. Nobody visited the person I protected besides me.
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Post Post #1935 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:10 pm

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I see.

First question that pops up is what incentive there is to no-kill with so many players remaining - perhaps fear of being watched by you? This suggests (WIFOM, I know) that the remaining scum may be in one of the consensus townreads that may have needed protection? But then again, why not just kill you then if they're so scared.
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Post Post #1936 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:10 pm

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Which is just weird.
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Post Post #1937 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:13 pm

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Second WIFOM-y thought (if you want me to stop, just say it ha) is maybe it was an inactive who just doesn't care (aka Shoe) - although, I find that much more unlikely than the above.

OR,

there's an SK or other third-party remaining and both Death-aligned scum are dead, and therefore no factional kills remain? But then that doesn't explain the no kill either.

I've got nothin'

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Post Post #1938 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:15 pm

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Actually someone not sending in the nightkill because they're not around might make sense. I don't think mutters has been active on site for a few days. Ill have to check.
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Post Post #1939 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:15 pm

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no kill probably because matt knew he was gonna be poisoned and he knew there was nothing he could do
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Post Post #1940 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:16 pm

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In post 1939, Nachomamma8 wrote:no kill probably because matt knew he was gonna be poisoned and he knew there was nothing he could do
#logic
You da man. Coming up with such far-fetched, brilliant theories while feeling ill. <3
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Post Post #1941 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:18 pm

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In post 1939, Nachomamma8 wrote:no kill probably because matt knew he was gonna be poisoned and he knew there was nothing he could do
#logic
You're right, I put myself into a fundamental autoloss as scum instead of savoring the chance that I wouldn't be poisioned. JYSK I would have given myself up if I was actually scum considering this would be hopeless but sadly for you, I'm not. I like you Nacho, but I'll kind of enjoy your reaction when you were wrong. :)

PS: Bert, Empire is jealous.
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Post Post #1942 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:18 pm

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Post Post #1943 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:19 pm

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Mutley hasn't been on site since Thursday.

Shadoweh made that weird claim that she would kill me first if she was scum. I thought it was weird when she said it, but it could have been instructions for a partner not paying attention. Plus desperado could have been bussing.

Why would Matt no kill? Even if he was scum and being poisoned, why not kill for the lulz? Besides wouldn't the game be over if the poisoned person was guilty?
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Post Post #1944 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:20 pm

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I think shoe being it and being offsite makes more sense.
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Post Post #1945 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:21 pm

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Well, FG might have wanted us to technically play the day out anyway, as the kill isn't official yet?

Yeah, I'm leaning towards Shoe too. I feel bad sometimes about lynching inactive lurkers (unreadable almost) to clear out suspects, but I don't really have any other reads that are strong enough to overtake that urge.
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Post Post #1946 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:22 pm

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In post 1944, Tammy wrote:I think shoe being it and being offsite makes more sense.
That actually makes a pretty fair amount of sense.
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Post Post #1947 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:24 pm

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Yup, Tammy's right, Mutters's last post was Sep. 12 (Thurs.), well before deadline - same goes for his activity. Along the same lines as Purple Shoe's (alt) last activity/posts.
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Post Post #1948 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:25 pm

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EBWOP: IIRC, the blacklist "tell" got us off his back.
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Post Post #1949 (ISO) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:26 pm

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