Micro 231: Mismatching Flavor Mafia (Game Over!)

[GuyInFreezer]

vote count 2.1

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Guyett (L-2):

beastcharizard | Viera Assassin
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beastcharizard (L-2):

Bert | Brian Skies

Viera Assassin (L-3):

Guyett

Not Voting:

morph the cat, Shiny Hydreigon

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.

Until deadline: (expired on 2013-10-02 21:45:00)

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[Guyett]

I really really don't like 689
Beast I am disappoint in you
I thought you were town

[morph the cat]

@Cat: Gut didn't like him. Plus, this progression pinged me. Second quote is like he 'knows' Guyett will flip town by saying "scum won't kill you." But before that, he had just said that Guyett is his strongest scumread.

I didn't phrase my question well. Why did you hammer so soon after I replaced in? I'm a quick read. In a thread with less than 30 pages I'd be caught up enough to start asking questions within a few hours of my first post.

I'm mostly annoyed that the lynch happened before I could develop an opinion about Lucky2u.

[morph the cat]

Somebody want to explain their case on Beast?

[Shiny Hydreigon]

I'm a quick read. In a thread with less than 30 pages I'd be caught up enough to start asking questions within a few hours of my first post.

so now that youre caught up, what are your reads?

R~

[morph the cat]

I'm a quick read. In a thread with less than 30 pages I'd be caught up enough to start asking questions within a few hours of my first post.

so now that youre caught up, what are your reads?

R~

Which head are you?

[Shiny Hydreigon]

that didnt answer my question

R~

[morph the cat]

Indeed it didn't. I'm going to interact for a bit before I put down reads.

IIRC I figured L~ for Mara.

[beastcharizard]

morph, there are like 2 pages of people trying to guess heads.

beast - Leaning scum. I feel like he is being opportunistic. And it didn't seem like he cared much about finding information. But, something feels really wrong with this read and it's bothering me. I can't pinpoint it exactly.

What about this has changed since you are voting me now?

[Shiny Hydreigon]

charizard, why are you voting guyett?

R~

[Brian Skies]

beast - Leaning scum. I feel like he is being opportunistic. And it didn't seem like he cared much about finding information. But, something feels really wrong with this read and it's bothering me. I can't pinpoint it exactly.

What about this has changed since you are voting me now?

What do you mean? That's a scumread. And the list you pulled it from has you right after Lucky. I'm just going down the list.

[Bert]

I didn't phrase my question well. Why did you hammer so soon after I replaced in? In a thread with less than 30 pages I'd be caught up enough to start asking questions within a few hours of my first post.

Empty promises from cabd...Lucky's last post was really really bad and almost made me forget about everyone else.

You are not a quick read, where did you get that from - remember our last game? You took several days until you let us hear your thought processes...

I'm mostly annoyed that the lynch happened before I could develop an opinion about Lucky2u.

You subbed in last-minute, amongst the noise, and Cabd's deliberation was SOOOO overcontemplative

Why did he avoid interacting with us for the majority of the day??

[morph the cat]

I didn't phrase my question well. Why did you hammer so soon after I replaced in? In a thread with less than 30 pages I'd be caught up enough to start asking questions within a few hours of my first post.

Empty promises from cabd...Lucky's last post was really really bad and almost made me forget about everyone else.

You are not a quick read, where did you get that from - remember our last game? You took several days until you let us hear your thought processes...

Not true. Go back and look. I was asking people why they were voting JKLM as soon as I finished my first read through, and in fact got Mutley to unvote a few hours after I joined the game. I didn't post a reads list until a couple days later but I put a ton of thought process into the thread prior to that, and my first reads list shouldn't have come as a surprise to anyone.

I'm mostly annoyed that the lynch happened before I could develop an opinion about Lucky2u.

You subbed in last-minute, amongst the noise, and Cabd's deliberation was SOOOO overcontemplative

Why did he avoid interacting with us for the majority of the day??

I don't think he was avoiding interaction. I don't want to put words into his mouth, but he's had reasons to be bummed out about mafia in general over the last week or so, and prior to that he was on V/LA. He and I were hydraing in another game that ended right after his camping trip. I was carrying Morph through the V/LA period, which scared the crap out of me because it was a scum game and we were playing an insane gambit that I didn't think I could carry off if suspicion swung back our way.

[Bert]

EBWOP: Ffery, the way you are feeling me out feels pretty genuine.

There hasn't been a real lurker other than Viera....

But yes, Cabd's walls felt SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO off

so probably the scum is in <Viera, Beast, Cabd/Ffery>

P-edit: NINJA'D

[Bert]

I don't think he was avoiding interaction. I don't want to put words into his mouth, but

he's had reasons to be bummed out about mafia in general over the last week or so, and prior to that he was on V/LA.

He and I were hydraing in another game that ended right after his camping trip. I was carrying Morph through the V/LA period, which scared the crap out of me because it was a scum game and we were playing an insane gambit that I didn't think I could carry off if suspicion swung back our way.

I remember being bummed out very well, so yeah I can budge on that. I'm still very wary about you two though.

Still... Cabd's tone felt forced, this is from my gut....

had me scratching my head

Not true. Go back and look. I was asking people why they were voting JKLM as soon as I finished my first read through, and in fact got Mutley to unvote a few hours after I joined the game. I didn't post a reads list until a couple days later but I put a ton of thought process into the thread prior to that, and my first reads list shouldn't have come as a surprise to anyone.

OK. Fair enough.

[Bert]

I don't remember you being this interested about getting reads done and input in so quickly.

I'm actually assuaged to see you interrogate me like this

I expected you to take more than plenty of time to help us out if you're town, but with a delay.... that's all

have you gotten in the game yet??

[morph the cat]

I don't remember you being this interested about getting reads done and input in so quickly.

I'm actually assuaged to see you interrogate me like this

I expected you to take more than plenty of time to help us out if you're town, but with a delay.... that's all

have you gotten in the game yet??

I've read through it, but was pretty bummed that day 1 ended before I had a chance to contribute. I'm going through some ISOs this morning. Expect a wall or two (or what passes for walls) in a bit.

[morph the cat]

morph, there are like 2 pages of people trying to guess heads.

beast - Leaning scum. I feel like he is being opportunistic. And it didn't seem like he cared much about finding information. But, something feels really wrong with this read and it's bothering me. I can't pinpoint it exactly.

What about this has changed since you are voting me now?

You feel that his vote indicates something has changed?

[Shiny Hydreigon]

so probably the scum is in

looks like morph/charizard right now

R~

[morph the cat]

Reading through Guyett's ISO made me go back through the lead-up to Bert hammering Lucky. Guyett encouraged the hammer in 675.

I don't get why this became such a hurry.

[Bert]

I don't get why this became such a hurry.

Sorry guys, gut kept screaming scum for Lucky, especially towards the end. That, along with one of my stronger townreads thinking along the same lines... Ffery, you should know that I've always sheeped my townreads if I'm having trouble reading people worth anything... much less if I have a gut scumread of my own on TOP of that

Putting my thinking caps on...

The bulk of this game will come down to POE...I do worry that one of the people widely regarded as a townread is scum though, but that's wayyyyy far in the back of me mind

Let's have lots and lots of discussion today, then, since you claim to be so bummed out! <3

THAT SAID, what do you think of Guyett? You clearly disapprove of his encouraging a hammer.

I am pushing you now because I EXPECT YOU TO LIST who your candidates are. Then I can SEE if it reads like a scum's reads list.ASAP. I don't have any meaningful experience with charizard or your other hydra-head, in particular. All of Cabd's posts about "I don't have time for this, especially since you all criticized my walls"...

it's hard to tell if he is avoiding serious play as scum by being this way. It was SO freakin blatant!!

If you're town here by any chance, I do not want to feel a disconnect between us like in 1415. It will not come down to that. As that'll affect your game AND MINE, and I will start getting paranoid about you REGARDLESS because of your indecisiveness.

looks like morph/charizard right now

Yeah, but also Saki's [lack of] posts have bothered me

Sakura had a townread on him for some reason...need to re-skim again to see why

[Bert]

I don't want to put words into his mouth, but he's had reasons to be bummed out about mafia in general over the last week or so, and prior to that he was on V/LA. He and I were hydraing in another game that ended right after his camping trip.

Just re-skimmed and saw this... =/

Kay then.

[Bert]

Nacho/Sakura, what do you think of Saki being a D1 lynch? Would you consider that?

Saki's town, never lynch him

~Sakura Hana

Why? I feel like there is a whole bunch of bias behind this post.

Blame the meta.

THIS. Before, I would see how timid Saki plays in his games, what with his optimistic hammering tendencies. Now, he is just content parking a vote for the day and remaining silent, which is ANNOYING me! Man my head is messed up this game with how much I'm missing/overlooking posts

saki's vote on cabd is unsettling me,

You were in 1481 with me and Saki. Need help figuring him out...

At this point, I'm more confident in us figuring out anyone else over Saki

[morph the cat]

I don't get why this became such a hurry.

Sorry guys, gut kept screaming scum for Lucky, especially towards the end. That, along with one of my stronger townreads thinking along the same lines... Ffery, you should know that I've always sheeped my townreads if I'm having trouble reading people worth anything... much less if I have a gut scumread of my own on TOP of that

Putting my thinking caps on...

The bulk of this game will come down to POE...I do worry that one of the people widely regarded as a townread is scum though, but that's wayyyyy far in the back of me mind

Let's have lots and lots of discussion today, then, since you claim to be so bummed out! <3

Works for me.

THAT SAID, what do you think of Guyett? You clearly disapprove of his encouraging a hammer.

I have him as leaning town based on his interactions with Brian, but that read is shaky because I didn't like his interactions with Lucky2u.

I am pushing you now because I EXPECT YOU TO LIST who your candidates are. Then I can SEE if it reads like a scum's reads list.ASAP. I don't have any meaningful experience with charizard or your other hydra-head, in particular. All of Cabd's posts about "I don't have time for this, especially since you all criticized my walls"...

Push all you want. I play at my pace.

it's hard to tell if he is avoiding serious play as scum by being this way. It was SO freakin blatant!!

I'll leave that for Cabd to answer if he feels it's not been answered already.

If you're town here by any chance, I do not want to feel a disconnect between us like in 1415. It will not come down to that. As that'll affect your game AND MINE, and I will start getting paranoid about you REGARDLESS because of your indecisiveness.

You did knock me off my game in 1415. I don't think that will happen again any time soon.

[Guyett]

I don't know what to make of him due to his meta change.
However I don't like the lurking at all and when he does post they have been terrible.