Xenogears Mafia (Game Over)

[zMuffinMan]

i don't believe it because your actions don't really match up with your reads. why not JK mastin? or andrius (after d1)? aj didn't even strongly push the RM wagon (he didn't really push it

AT ALL

but that's another matter), especially in comparison to

anyone who actually did push the wagon

. plus there were far more town-looking players than AJ D1, and AJ wasn't even among the people who you were supposedly reading as strongly town D1. in fact, you initially started off with a scum read on him and never mentioned a town read on him - and it's especially odd considering you thought he was tunneling you D1 - why would scum kill someone tunneling mala-town?

the mac reasoning i don't really see. why not protect a stronger player among your town reads? like, no offense to mac, but really... he was very low on the list of people i thought might be killed N2.

it's not that i don't agree with how you used your role; it's that your explanations are both bad and don't match up with the things you've said so far.

[zMuffinMan]

i'm also trying to figure out whether aj is scum or really, really, really naive town who just doesn't know any better. the massive assumptions he's been making about how a traitor role would work in this game (without even assuming that it might not even exist) and the reasoning is making my head spin.

i need to sleep.

[borkjerfkin]

Votecount 3.5

[7] Malakittens (BROseidon, zMuffinMan, mastin2, Ghostlin, Aj The Epic, TiphaineDeath, Nachomamma8)
[2] Aj The Epic (waynegg, Mac)
[1] BROseidon (dopog)
[1] Faster Than Light (Desperado)

[5] Not Voting (Malakittens, notscience, Trust Fund, Andrius, Faster Than Light)

With 16 alive, it is 9 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2013-09-25 10:00:00)

[Mac]

if you jailkept me i shouldnt have been able to talk to trust fund, no?

[zMuffinMan]

that's not how a jk works, since it would resolve at the end of the night and prevent actions at the point of action resolution.

[zMuffinMan]

Bro and I'm still not sold on Aj-town.

btw, this from d2, is not what you say about someone who you felt really strongly was town d1. ESPECIALLY given how strongly town you seemed to think bnb and mastin and others were, and any of them were far more likely kills.

[Malakittens]

if you jailkept me i shouldnt have been able to talk to trust fund, no?

Exactly why I asked when you used your actions on TF now had you said you neighborized him N2 then we would have had a problem since it means one of us is lying about our actions or I got RB'd. Since you did it during the Day and it resolved already you wouldn't have been blocked since it's a passive action or something. It's like theoretically saying I JK'd a mason for one night they don't lose their Night talk because they already have it. Does that make sense?

[zMuffinMan]

OH WAIT.

I just remembered something.

I am almost certain mala is lying about the JKs.

mastin should know why.

[zMuffinMan]

wait nm scratch that, i'm thinking something completely wrong here. going to sleep before i say anything else that's really stupid

[BROseidon]

Why is AJ town?

I'm going with Thezmon's read on him which I think them playing offsite he would know how to read him better than the rest of it. Along with the fact AJ's been chasing down me along with others. I do think he's solidly town

So, you

are

scum...

I'm seeing what you're seeing

Also, this feels parallel to how I sheeped Nacho's read of Rach in Xenoblade because "he knew how to read her better."

[BROseidon]

Hey dopog, venmar claimed miller before he left. Confirm that it's true plz kthnx.

Cabd, can you stop doing 1/2 assed reaction tests and actually play the game. I know you're a better player than this.

[BROseidon]

I'm Elhaym Van Houten, Battle Mage of the Nisan Alliance. I'm a Town JK.

Night 1 I JK'd AJ.
Night 2 I JK'd Mac

No JK on SoS
No JK on BnB
No JK on mastin
No JK on Muffin

This claim reeks.

[BROseidon]

(coz, you know, if i were a town JK, i'd be on the CLAIMED INNOCENT CHILD 24/7 if i wasn't trying to roleblock my scum reads, and mac and AJ don't match up with your supposed scum reads)

In all fairness, scum have plenty of time to shoot NS.

I wouldn't have jailed him were I a town JK. I'd have jailed SoS/BnB. You know, players who were solidly town and having impact.

[Andrius]

also, i don't see why you'd ask to be lynched if you're a fucking PR

This is something.

if your aim was to JK town reads to protect them from NK, why specifically AJ and mac? why not AJ two nights in a row? why not, say, mastin, who you seem to really strongly think is town and is a more likely NK than someone like mac?

but anyway, yeah, answers plx

She chose to use it offensively instead of defensively.
So she chose to RB instead of Doc.
Honestly, protecting the InnoChild is important but there are other priorities out there. I'm not sure scum would BUMRUSH the Inno.Child the first chance they got (N1) especially if the InnoChild is contributing nothing to the game and cannot be bothered to play.
See: SAIII

[BROseidon]

She chose to use it offensively instead of defensively.
So she chose to RB instead of Doc.

Why are you answering for her and giving a different response from her?

[notscience]

cannot be bothered to play.

Because I'm totally not trying now?

REgardless, if she is a JK it'd be a waste on me.

[Andrius]

The InnoChild isn't the only role they need killed off before LyLo.
hehehe

if your aim was to JK town reads to protect them from NK, why specifically AJ and mac? why not AJ two nights in a row? why not, say, mastin, who you seem to really strongly think is town and is a more likely NK than someone like mac?

but anyway, yeah, answers plx

ok well this throws my theory out the window
so idek at this point

or andrius (after d1)?

I'm the scum counterwagon to sameteamscum, remember?

LOOK AT ME DEFEND MALAAAAAA
this is like the best noncommittal defense ever

[Andrius]

She chose to use it offensively instead of defensively.
So she chose to RB instead of Doc.

Why are you answering for her and giving a different response from her?

reading is hard

[Andrius]

another question
so we know that AJ doesn't have a confirmable role
so why would scum fakeblock targets that will make us question WHY if they could have chosen to block anyone?

like
scum mala goes to claim
she sees that aj claimed a role that would not know if it were blocked n1
so why pick aj when there are way better targets?


unless she's superafraid of trackers/watchers

[waynegg]

Why is AJ town?

I'm going with Thezmon's read on him which I think them playing offsite he would know how to read him better than the rest of it. Along with the fact AJ's been chasing down me along with others. I do think he's solidly town

So, you

are

scum...

I'm seeing what you're seeing

Also, this feels parallel to how I sheeped Nacho's read of Rach in Xenoblade because "he knew how to read her better."

On AJ too?

[notscience]

Yeah, Andrius is town.

[Malakittens]

To be fair I have my own reasons not to protect B&tB.

[Andrius]

I'm specifically asking Andy why he thinks that because I'm not on the same page. Nor do I believe you're town, so I'll wait for Andy, but thanks.

He crumbed for me, and it was something beautiful and irrevocably town from days long gone.

[Andrius]

To be fair I have my own reasons not to protect B&tB.

I wouldn't have either.

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[Andrius]

also man life sucks without an avatar