Newbie 1419 - GAME OVER

[Nachomamma8]

(I thought Nacho was the PR ftr, especially towards the end of Day 2.)

Nacho, why did you ask this.

I liked this in #695 because he picked up my PR crumb and wasn't afraid to talk about it at all.
The second question was him asking why I was questioning you on ns, with the implication that I was using you to stockpile fuel for my attack on ns.

I don't like that he never followed up on #696, but it makes sense if he didn't have any time to.

I can see the thought process at the end of #729 even if I don't agree with it. It's also an awkward angle to push as scum to call someone town for having a townread when you have another day to go, I think. He also makes the effort to follow up with his suspicions on me and his townread on ns, which I like a lot.

[Brian Skies]

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't jealous that your breadcrumbs were better than mine (mostly because mine sucked and all it did was give me a townread on Shii).

[Titus]

I never noticed either of your breadcrumbs. Then again, I don't do that. Also, why would we gain anything from Nacho crumbing PR supposing that is true. Nacho's play and comments usually make her an nightkill even as a VT. So why would town nacho crumb PR?

[Brian Skies]

We still have 5 days, huh? The recent surge of activity got me excited. I'm calm now. Carry on Titus.

UNVOTE

[Titus]

Nacho's play has irked me. There's only one legitimate reason I can think of to crumb PR when you're not. Wifom the scums into killing you. Here, Nacho did that in a much different manner by claiming that the scums would kill her. Then why the crumbing? It would only serve to confuse town. Also, Shii might be onto something in 696. Nacho's play changed dramatically when Bert entered the game.

[Brian Skies]

I like that logic, Titus. I'm still down to townblock Shii if we need to. I'm leaning towards lynching Nacho now for some reason.

[Brian Skies]

I still want to hear Shii's thoughts on most of this though.

[Nachomamma8]

I never noticed either of your breadcrumbs. Then again, I don't do that. Also, why would we gain anything from Nacho crumbing PR supposing that is true. Nacho's play and comments usually make her an nightkill even as a VT. So why would town nacho crumb PR?

While crumbing a PR, I'm also giving the new doctor advice on where the protect needs to be going. I'm also WIFOMing the scum so that they will shoot me over the optimal play (the tracker). There is absolutely no reason I should be shot for being me when there is a power role that can determine alignment with 100% accuracy in play.

Here, Nacho did that in a much different manner by claiming that the scums would kill her. Then why the crumbing? It would only serve to confuse town.

I say that scum will kill me because scum usually kill me, which is a pretty well-known fact by now.

Nacho's play changed dramatically when Bert entered the game.

Bert tends to center his games around me (Day 1, figuring me out, figuring out if he wants to follow my reads or not), meaning that it works better for our dynamic if I am loud, active, and have my hand in all things. This is not my only playstyle.

[Amrun]

VC 3.2

(1) Nachomamma8 - Shiidaji
(1) notscience - Nachomamma8
(1) Shiidaji - notscience

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Not Voting:

V/LA:

Deadline: Monday, September 23 at 10:30am EDT

Spoiler: Vote History

Shiidaji

- Nachomamma8

Brian Skies

- notscience > uvnote > notscience > unvote

Titus

- notscience > unvote

notscience

- Shiidaji

Nachomamma8

- notscience

If you spot any mistakes, please let me know.

Shiidaji has been prodded.

[Titus]

@Mod: Can we have the nine hours lost due to the site being down added to the deadline?

Funnily enough, I wasn't actually aware it was down at all. I just happened to be doing other things. But yes, sure. VC will be changed to reflect this.

~Amrun

[Brian Skies]

@Mod: You're the best.

Still waiting on Shii's thoughts and stuff.

[Nachomamma8]

and notscience's!

[Titus]

If their thoughts aren't in by Sunday, I'm voting Nachomamma.

[Nachomamma8]

I never noticed either of your breadcrumbs. Then again, I don't do that. Also, why would we gain anything from Nacho crumbing PR supposing that is true. Nacho's play and comments usually make her an nightkill even as a VT. So why would town nacho crumb PR?

While crumbing a PR, I'm also giving the new doctor advice on where the protect needs to be going. I'm also WIFOMing the scum so that they will shoot me over the optimal play (the tracker). There is absolutely no reason I should be shot for being me when there is a power role that can determine alignment with 100% accuracy in play.

Here, Nacho did that in a much different manner by claiming that the scums would kill her. Then why the crumbing? It would only serve to confuse town.

I say that scum will kill me because scum usually kill me, which is a pretty well-known fact by now.

Nacho's play changed dramatically when Bert entered the game.

Bert tends to center his games around me (Day 1, figuring me out, figuring out if he wants to follow my reads or not), meaning that it works better for our dynamic if I am loud, active, and have my hand in all things. This is not my only playstyle.

We're both here. Respond to my defense instead of ignoring it.

[notscience]

and notscience's!

P sure I've said my reads.

[Nachomamma8]

You have. But there isn't anything else you'd like to say, just... that?

[notscience]

What else is there to say?

Brian and Titus are conftown.

I think Shii is scum, and i've seen reasoning to lynch me- not because I'm scum, because I couldn't hold my own.

[Brian Skies]

If you want to know why I said that, it's because Shii and Nacho are just way better townreads for me at this point. Personally, I'd find it hard to believe you over either of my stronger townreads because they've just had better games so far. But you're welcome to convince me now to townblock you. I'm open to being wrong.

But if you don't bring logic and evidence and stuff, it'll never happen (I don't buy "cus my meta and stuff"). I'm only one vote, so I can be bypassed (convincing the other three is another strategy).

The other option is convincing me that Shii or Nacho is the better lynch. I do like making the better lynch.

[notscience]

Here's a bit of logic

You say you want to vote me out today because I won't be able to stand up to them.

Why would me standing up to them matter if you really thought I was scum?

[Titus]

I never noticed either of your breadcrumbs. Then again, I don't do that. Also, why would we gain anything from Nacho crumbing PR supposing that is true. Nacho's play and comments usually make her an nightkill even as a VT. So why would town nacho crumb PR?

While crumbing a PR, I'm also giving the new doctor advice on where the protect needs to be going. I'm also WIFOMing the scum so that they will shoot me over the optimal play (the tracker). There is absolutely no reason I should be shot for being me when there is a power role that can determine alignment with 100% accuracy in play.

Here, Nacho did that in a much different manner by claiming that the scums would kill her. Then why the crumbing? It would only serve to confuse town.

I say that scum will kill me because scum usually kill me, which is a pretty well-known fact by now.

Nacho's play changed dramatically when Bert entered the game.

Bert tends to center his games around me (Day 1, figuring me out, figuring out if he wants to follow my reads or not), meaning that it works better for our dynamic if I am loud, active, and have my hand in all things. This is not my only playstyle.

We're both here. Respond to my defense instead of ignoring it.

I did notice it. Your defense is a lot of wifom. Also, I think your rapid shift was an attempt to get Bert to label you as town, rather than actually being town. Bert should have been able to read you without a massive shift in gameplay.

Brian, please lynch Nacho with me today. If we're wrong, I'll lynch NS with you/for you tomorrow.

[notscience]

I'll lynch NS with you/for you tomorrow.

And it's thoughts like this that lose games.

[Brian Skies]

Why would me standing up to them matter if you really thought I was scum?

If you haven't noticed, I've been trying to get you lynched several times already. Titus and Shii don't want you lynched. I want to know why.

I'm not familiar with meta and I fully understand that towns can seem less town than scum (cough* Nacho cough*). This is why I'm waiting for Shii's opinions. We also have a tendency to hammer shit when Shii isn't around.

I did notice it. Your defense is a lot of wifom. Also, I think your rapid shift was an attempt to get Bert to label you as town, rather than actually being town. Bert should have been able to read you without a massive shift in gameplay.

Brian, please lynch Nacho with me today. If we're wrong, I'll lynch NS with you/for you tomorrow.

Sure, as soon as Shii comes in and gives me content. We still have a few days left, so I'm willing to wait.

[Nachomamma8]

I'll lynch NS with you/for you tomorrow.

And it's thoughts like this that lose games.

No, it's more thoughts like this:

What else is there to say?

Brian and Titus are conftown.

I think Shii is scum, and i've seen reasoning to lynch me- not because I'm scum, because I couldn't hold my own.

I'm obviously not lynching you because you can't "hold your own".

[notscience]

Did I say it was you?

No.

[Brian Skies]

I'm obviously not lynching you because you can't "hold your own".

That statement is directed at me, Nacho.