Mini 1492: Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets GAME OVER

fferyllt · Post Post #675 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:02 pm

In post 672, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:ffery, what are your reads? Who do you think is scum? Work with me. Right now the only people I am still not sure of are you, Nacho, and Penguin. Everybody else is a strong townread.

lol you asked this just as I was packing up to go home. When I got my laptop fired back up I had a bunch of posts waiting for me.

PA is my strongest scum read.

Rereading the thread during the night phase, I toyed with the idea that MSG's paranoia was at least partially manufactured, but I think not after reading through his last few posts.

With MSG moving up, one of my day 2 town reads probably bad. it could be Syr, but he usually plays a bold scum game from what I've seen reading meta. There was a Jungle Republic game I followed where he was scum that he won in 3p LYLO. The one game we have actually played where he was scum, he was super-inactive, but the entire scum team in the Perpetual MYLO game were badly demotivated.

I have a tendency to town-read Amrun in the early game when she's scum. Will review her tonight and look back at her early play in the Raptured game.

Rach, Jason, you, and to a lesser degree Toomai I feel pretty confident are town, too.

fferyllt · Post Post #676 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:05 pm

In post 674, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Why are you ignoring my posts? You still haven't provided any of your reads. More than MSG's case on you, I think MSG's progression of suspicion which can be glanced at from his ISO makes him really obvious town. POE means that two of you, Nacho, and Penguin are scum.

UNVOTE:

I am not as sure of Penguin anymore. I want to hear from her and Nacho and think about this further.

I am not ignoring your posts.

F-16_Fighting_Falcon · Post Post #677 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:09 pm

Sorry, it seemed that way when you didn't respond. I didn't realize that you missed my posts.

F-16_Fighting_Falcon · Post Post #678 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:15 pm

Regarding Amrun, I think it is fairly obvious that she is town unless she bussed Stubbs out of nowhere for no reason. She was already being townread and there was no great suspicion on Stubbs. What motivation would she have to point out exactly why he is scum and start a wagon on him? I'll read Raptured as well but I am finding it very hard to see any scum motivation in Amrun's posting.

fferyllt · Post Post #679 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:22 pm

You're probably right, but there was a trememdous amount of cross-bussing on day 1 of that game.

Man if it's Syr I have a nearly new gently used scum-Syr model I'll sell cheap.

F-16_Fighting_Falcon · Post Post #680 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:23 pm

Okay. Tell me more about the town-Syr and scum-Syr models you have.

fferyllt · Post Post #681 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:34 pm

Town-Syr is pretty much equal parts troll and perceptive, decisive play. He goes to meta as a sort of last ditch effort when he can't get an effective read in other ways.

His scum game I think is well pesonified here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=27641

He busses with impunity if a teammate messes up, as fuzzybutternut did in the above game. It doesn't trouble him to take on ton-of-town to 1 odds, and he's really good at setting up a beneficial environment day by day with his night kills.

Given Stubbs' flip, I would have expected scum-Syr to push a lot harder for a Stubbs lynch than he did, purely for the cred and to cut off the associative stuff that would have been bound to take place.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #682 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:58 pm

In post 650, fferyllt wrote:Nacho, you've inherited stale town read of Syr from day 1.

Thoughts about the game?

It's a shame he couldn't leave while the read was fresh

I think it's strange that people are suspecting you at this point due to meta reasons; what's going on?

RachMarie · Post Post #683 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:02 pm

I received a piece of fruit last night FYI

F-16_Fighting_Falcon · Post Post #684 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:02 pm

In post 683, RachMarie wrote:I received a piece of fruit last night FYI

Yeah. That would be from me.

fferyllt · Post Post #685 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:09 pm

In post 682, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 650, fferyllt wrote:Nacho, you've inherited stale town read of Syr from day 1.

Thoughts about the game?
It's a shame he couldn't leave while the read was fresh

I think it's strange that people are suspecting you at this point due to meta reasons; what's going on?

Says Oil Tycoons. What's strange about it?

RachMarie · Post Post #686 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:11 pm

LOL I figured that out. As strange as this game is, I doubt there would be TWO claimed fruit vendors.

I feel pretty good that Nacho is probably town fery.

F-16_Fighting_Falcon · Post Post #687 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:12 pm

Rach, what are your reads? Who do you think is scum?

fferyllt · Post Post #688 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:14 pm

In post 686, RachMarie wrote:LOL I figured that out. As strange as this game is, I doubt there would be TWO claimed fruit vendors.

I feel pretty good that Nacho is probably town fery.

I felt good about Syr on day 1. It takes a bit of interaction for me to sort Nacho. :/

I assume you're thinking he's town because of Syr. If you can town read nacho from one post, then I want to subscribe to your newsletter.

RachMarie · Post Post #689 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:17 pm

What that means though is:

1. Falcon is for sure town because iffen he is giving out fruit he is probably not killing our dear doc...

2. Falcon could still be scum, but was not doing the kill... I am going on the basis that we have a three person scum team and no SK. (singular night kills kinda give credence to not having a SK).

So it is more likely he is town, but not totally confirmed yet. In Author Mafia we DID have a mafia fruit vendor. We found him out because he was not able to give fruit AND do the night kill as well.

@ mod if a mafia PR ends up being the only one left, can he do both his or her PR as well as doing the killing?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #690 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:17 pm

In post 685, fferyllt wrote:
In post 682, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 650, fferyllt wrote:Nacho, you've inherited stale town read of Syr from day 1.

Thoughts about the game?
It's a shame he couldn't leave while the read was fresh

I think it's strange that people are suspecting you at this point due to meta reasons; what's going on?
Says Oil Tycoons. What's strange about it?

I expect for you to be attacked when people aren't familiar with your play, not when they are. Having trouble with the game?

RachMarie · Post Post #691 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:19 pm

Not saying he is totally confirmed town in my book, fery, but I have a good gut read on him atm.

fferyllt · Post Post #692 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:27 pm

In post 690, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 685, fferyllt wrote:
In post 682, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 650, fferyllt wrote:Nacho, you've inherited stale town read of Syr from day 1.

Thoughts about the game?
It's a shame he couldn't leave while the read was fresh

I think it's strange that people are suspecting you at this point due to meta reasons; what's going on?
Says Oil Tycoons. What's strange about it?
I expect for you to be attacked when people aren't familiar with your play, not when they are.

It depends on your definition of familiar.

Having trouble with the game?

Overnight, I thought it was close to solved actually. Now I'm not sure. Are you caught up?

F-16_Fighting_Falcon · Post Post #693 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:28 pm

In post 692, fferyllt wrote:Overnight, I thought it was close to solved actually. Now I'm not sure. Are you caught up?

Who did you think were the scumteam and what changed your mind?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #694 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:32 pm

In post 692, fferyllt wrote:Now I'm not sure. Are you caught up?

Hell no.

fferyllt · Post Post #695 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:36 pm

In post 693, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
In post 692, fferyllt wrote:Overnight, I thought it was close to solved actually. Now I'm not sure. Are you caught up?
Who did you think were the scumteam and what changed your mind?

I thought that there was some associative stuff Stubbs put down on day 1 that pointed to scum-oriole and therefore scum-MSG. I had a theory that PA was actually trying to bus a teammate with a less powerful role in an effort to keep a powerful scum PR alive another night. The alternatives to a Stubbs lynch evaporated pretty quickly.

But, MSG is looking pretty town, so I think the oriole/stubbs stuff wasn't scum-scum.

F-16_Fighting_Falcon · Post Post #696 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:42 pm

I considered that too which is why I wasn't really sold on MSG-town fully until today.

Toomai · Post Post #697 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:54 pm

Well my reads update is that JW and FFF are town due to claims and everyone else is in a big pile of cluelessness.

I guess I'll wait for Nachomamma8 to get caught up.

JasonWazza · Post Post #698 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:55 pm

So fuck my power.

MSG · Post Post #699 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:58 pm

did you use it?