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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:12 am

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Here's the deal:

I know I'm town. This means I know scum had 3 votes N1 and not 2, which makes two of Toog/Rach/F-16 likely to be scum with IceGuy the Liar's scum flip.

I've been calling Rach scum all game and her justifications for voting me over her buddies keep getting worse. IceGuy was just a derp newbie??? You have to be joking.

Toog isn't even trying to hide, he slipped on how many votes scum had N1 and his stance on me has never made sense.

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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:16 am

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In post 855, Toogeloo wrote:The fact that there is a liar makes it more likely that the votes were split, and it's more likely that the scum put two votes on Gnomeo and 1 vote on you if anything.
^This is Toog slipping that scum had 3 votes N1 and not 2 even though he was pushing the "Desp and Gnomeo are both scum!" narrative all day.
In post 859, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 856, Desperado wrote:You're making this up as you go along aren't you? There are only 4 scum. How would they have 5 votes?
Ok, 1 and 1. The fact that Nominees can't vote is still hasn't completely processed in my brain.
He tries to explain here, but it doesn't track considering he didn't account for the other nominee's vote as well. If he truly was confused about the fact that nominees can't vote then he would have credited the scum with 4 votes N1, not 3.
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Post Post #952 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:04 am

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In post 89, PeaceBringer wrote:vote toogeloo HOH
In post 90, PeaceBringer wrote:
vote toogloo
Peace tries Toog first.
In post 115, PeaceBringer wrote:I can go with jake also
unvote, vote Jake
Then switches to Jake when Bulb/Molla/Myself--three strong personalities--go with Jake.
In post 141, Gnomeo wrote:VOTE: Toogeloo

Is probably town. I have no problem putting up his suspects for nomination.

I will also

FOS: Titus


Who I would vote for at this point.
Hey look Gnomeo tries Toog first too.
In post 198, Gnomeo wrote:1. Imperium (Nacho/Tammy hydra): Town. I very much liked his reads list. Especially the "Town+" part, which includes my strongest reads as well.
2. keybladewielder: Very bad enrance. Not much else. Leaning Scum
3. Titus: Scum. Made some questionable posts earlier and then his comments on KBW look a bit off. The difference in reads also worries me.
4. Minions (Hydra): Leaning town. I like his push on Titus.
6. Bulbazak: Leaning scum. I don't like the direction he tried to lead us to(the HoH choosing by himself)
7. BBmolla: Leaning town. Gut read.
8. peacebringer: null. I did not get a proper read from his posts.
9. blackberry: Leaning town because of his first post.
10. Jake from Rainbow Dash (Hydra of Jake From State Farm and RainbowDash): Town since #47.
11.ToastyToast: Slightly leaning scum. Gut read
12.RachMarie: Null.
13. Toogeloo: Town: His entrance was pretty good and the rest of his posts were fine too. I am fine with his suggestions for elimination.
14. Desperado: Leaning town since #189
Gnomeo's early game scum: KBW, Titus, Bulb, Toast. They're probably all town. Peace is null, Rach is null, Toog is hard town. Par for the course as far as I'm concerned.
In post 367, Gnomeo wrote:Imperium, can you explain Peacebringer for me?
Gnomeo has no problem openly defending buddies. Reinforces above interpretation.
In post 429, Gnomeo wrote:Bulbazak, dis you seriously say that me copying the player list from page one to give my reads is scummy?

And Why do you only comment on me doing it, when Titus did the exact same thing, even before I did?
On the flip side, mud slinging probably = town.
In post 538, Gnomeo wrote: Give me some examples where Toogeloo contradicts himself.
In post 543, Gnomeo wrote:
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Toogeloo: I have liked much of his content. Bulbazak's pushing to discredit him only strengthens my read on him.
Leaning Town:

Imperium: does a lot of scumhunting, but some points(against me, sure) are looking strange.
blackberry: I liked his content on the first few pages. Don't remember him doing much later on though.
Toastytoast: His recent content has been pretty good. His questioning of Rach and his reads on BBMolla and blackberry stand out as town motivated for me.
Desperado: Mostly gut. There's something about his tone I like.
Null:
Titus: I had a scumread on her first, but I'm not sure anymore. I'm willing to give her the benifit of the doubt and see what happens on day 2.
Peacebringer: replacing out, so needs reevaluation later.
Leaning Scum:

keybladewielder: can only remember some questionable content. Not much else.
Minions: Bulbazak tries linking us together. Which means he's probably Bulbazak's scumbuddy.
BBMolla: seems to be going with the flow and choosing targets as they are called out by other people.
RachMarie: easy reads. Nothing original.
Scum:

Bulbazak: I don't think this needs explaining.


I can't really blame any of you if you want to put me up for eviction. I have not been contributing much. At least now you'll have something to go on if I get evicted.

I suppose I'll stick to voting my strongest townread.

VOTE: Toogeloo
Gnomeo's late day scum: KBW, Bulb, Minions, Molla, Rach. Peace is still null, Toog is still strong town.

Based on Peace and Gnomeos' ISOs Bulb, KBW, Minions, Molla, Titus, Imperium, Toast -- all town

Remaining scum in...Toog, Rach, F-16. Hey, that's the same three people that voted me N1!

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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:45 am

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Desperado, saying that the remaining scum is in me, Rach, and Toog makes no sense at all. I have explained why I voted for you and I certainly see the town motivation in voting you. I don't follow your logic in claiming that everyone that voted you is scum.
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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:05 am

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In post 953, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Desperado, saying that the remaining scum is in me, Rach, and Toog makes no sense at all. I have explained why I voted for you and I certainly see the town motivation in voting you. I don't follow your logic in claiming that everyone that voted you is scum.
Good thing I'm not? One of the three of you is guaranteed town and I've been pretty sure it's you since I started following this line of logic.
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:34 am

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I voted for Ice_Guy, will post later.
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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:17 pm

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In post 954, Desperado wrote:
In post 953, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Desperado, saying that the remaining scum is in me, Rach, and Toog makes no sense at all. I have explained why I voted for you and I certainly see the town motivation in voting you. I don't follow your logic in claiming that everyone that voted you is scum.
Good thing I'm not? One of the three of you is guaranteed town and I've been pretty sure it's you since I started following this line of logic.
I voted you Desp. I still believe in the theory that you are scum and the scums likely don't have control over evictions after today. I'm not certain the theory is true but it is plausible.
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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:18 pm

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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:26 pm

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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:44 pm

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In post 947, Minions wrote:Oh, we voted ice guy because one if the team was convinced desp was town... We shall have a further discussion on that with the way today opened.

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That doesnt make any sense. Why would the opinion of one head overthrow the opinion of all the rest?
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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:27 pm

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Des give it a rest....

What do you mean not newb?

I know I recently played a game with Ice Guy and I believe it was a newbie game will go find it.

and I know that Gnomeo is new....

So why are you not looking at minions as potential scum? Think on that Des ....
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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:34 pm

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

His ISO in the game we were in together (Greater Idea Mafia). He seemed to be making definite newbie mistakes there... So I thought he was a newbie.
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:37 pm

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In post 912, Desperado wrote:In fact you can all just quick vote me for HOH now if you want since I'm conftown and all
hey desperado!
this is nacho. i am very sorry for being convinced you were scum for so long and putting you up to die two times in a row. i can now acknowledge that you are town town town and will get to analyzing previous wagons with you town in mind. thank you for being our good luck charm! <3
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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:40 pm

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IceGuy - (Molla, Toogeloo, F-16, Minions, Toast)
Desperado - (Rach, Titus, Bulbazak)
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:20 pm

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In post 781, RachMarie wrote:One of them is scum, though probably not both. But I am not yet sure which one is the scum and which one is the town.
I think Desperado is town. His frustration and sort of YEAH FUCK YOU GUYS I MADE IT THROUGH AGAIN was very, very town.
In post 785, Desperado wrote:This is the scum Rach that I know. Is there any evidence that this game is even remotely related to the game she is talking about?
The answer was in response to BB and I setup speculating, so yes it was related to the game.
In post 829, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I'd go with an Iceguy lynch as well but I am not sold on Bulba's frustration being town. Scum can get frustrated too if caught.
I don't like this either. Bulba was an old person who we wanted to lynch really really badly, F-16 knows we're putting up Desp again, hints that we should toss Bulbazak in there instead.
In post 842, ToastyToast wrote:I'm sort of unsure about voting Imperium again. I still think its unwise to vote someone HoH twice in a row, as it gives one person who could still be scum too much control. I'm fairly sure he's town, but I'd rather have someone like F-16 be HoH
This random paranoia was pretty nice, I liked it.
In post 888, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I think we are being a bit too quick to dismiss Bulbazak's frustration as townish.
And yet another attempt to get us to put up Bulbazak :/
In post 904, Toogeloo wrote:as a consolation we got rid of a liability,
This doesn't sound like scum talking about lynching their partner at all.
In post 915, Bulbazak wrote:I didn't have a good grasp of Molla's town game until recently. This is not it.
Ummm, I still think that you lack a grasp of molla's towngame.
In post 921, BBmolla wrote:Minions over Rach if Imperium has some other that they want to throw in the fray.
Our pick other than Minions is F-16. That sound good to you? We got a dope case on him, let us blow you away.
In post 926, Toogeloo wrote:If Desperado is town, then Rach and F-16 are both scum, which is harder for me to accept.
You know it's completely possible for someone to buss their buddy in a private vote and be telling the truth, right? Too many liars narrows down the pool too much.
In post 929, BBmolla wrote:1 mention of Rach,
stop tunneling rach, molla.
In post 936, BBmolla wrote:But I think that's silly, I think it's more likely Minions is mafia.
Rach is also not the bussing type at all. They are not scum together.
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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:59 pm

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So... are we thinking the scum team just up and said, "fuck this," and both Peace and Berry replaced out? BBmolla mentioned Peace probabably felt the scum team was boned early on and evaced the game because of it. Is that something Berry would do as well?

Also, holy balls Desp is angry at me lol.
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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:04 pm

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I don't think either replaced out because they were scum.
Tammy's gonna make a nice F-16 case in the morning and you'll see why we feel so strongly about it, hopefully.
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:23 am

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In post 964, Imperium wrote:I don't like this either. Bulba was an old person who we wanted to lynch really really badly, F-16 knows we're putting up Desp again, hints that we should toss Bulbazak in there instead.
In post 964, Imperium wrote:And yet another attempt to get us to put up Bulbazak :/
Yeah, no shit I want my scumread put up for eviction. I provided the reasons why. Why is this scum-motivated?
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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:59 am

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In post 954, Desperado wrote:
In post 953, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Desperado, saying that the remaining scum is in me, Rach, and Toog makes no sense at all. I have explained why I voted for you and I certainly see the town motivation in voting you. I don't follow your logic in claiming that everyone that voted you is scum.
Good thing I'm not? One of the three of you is guaranteed town and I've been pretty sure it's you since I started following this line of logic.
Your logic is basically OMGUS--because people voted for you, you think that two of them MUST be scum. This is a false conclusion.
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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Sat Sep 21, 2013 7:00 am

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In post 912, Desperado wrote:In fact you can all just quick vote me for HOH now if you want since I'm conftown and all
Why are you confirmed town? Why is Bulba confirmed town?
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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Sat Sep 21, 2013 7:09 am

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Yeah I'll need some convincing Nach. I mean, throw up Desp again and I'll probably do F-16 over Desp, but yeah.
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Post Post #971 (ISO) » Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:28 am

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My gut screams Toasty is the scum right now. Yet, he's agreeing with me on Desperado not bieng confirmed town. Ugh.

Toast, why did you vote IceGuy?

Please don't vote me for HoH. I'm still trying to figure this out.
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Post Post #972 (ISO) » Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:01 am

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@Titus: because peace-bringer was one of my scumreads, and ice_guy did nothing to change that read.
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Post Post #973 (ISO) » Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:41 pm

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@Toasty, why?
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Post Post #974 (ISO) » Sat Sep 21, 2013 4:44 pm

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Votecount 3.01:

Titus - Bulbazak
Imperium - Titus, RachMarie
BBmolla - Desp

Not Voting - BBmolla, Minions, Toogeloo, f-16, Toasty, keyblade, Imperium

With 11 alive it takes 6 to elect an HoH. Currently Imperium will be nominated as the next HoH, as they have the most votes.

Deadline is in (expired on 2013-10-02 12:06:45) or by 11:05 AM on October 2nd, 2013.
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