Newbie 1433 - Game Over

[Skelda]

Not only mines, mister. If somehow you flip town, I can assure you it is going to be unexpected for most of us.

But I can hardly believe that's gonna happen.

Then you've got a shock coming.

[Skelda]

Not only mines, mister. If somehow you flip town, I can assure you it is going to be unexpected for most of us.

But I can hardly believe that's gonna happen.

Then you've got a shock coming.

[SatanHellYeah]

Whatever. Do not think you can grow doubts in me with that attitude.

[Skelda]

Whatever. Do not think you can grow doubts in me with that attitude.

Maybe you are just a stupid town...

Get rid of Ree and 2Pac for me, guys. Please don't lynch Nomni, I think he's town. Watch Reg, I have a few doubts in the back of my mind, don't let him get too comfortable. I think Fuzzy is town.

[Skelda]

Sthar8 is responsible for this lynch, but not sure you all should blame him. Ranawey is very opportunistic if he hammers me.

[Ranawey]

Meh, it was something similar to sthar's rt.

[Skelda]

Meh, it was something similar to sthar's rt.

Well that's good. Still down for 2Pac?

[Ranawey]

Mhm.

[Nominull]

Unofficial votecount with 11 hours remaining until deadline:

Nominull (2): 2Pac, TheFuzzylogic99
2Pac (4): Nominull, Regfan, Ranawey, Skelda
skelda (3): sthar8, SatanHellYeah, Mr_Ree

I will be around a few hours longer, but then I will be unavailable until deadline. Someone please make sure to lynch 2Pac before time runs out.

[Regfan]

Fuck this game, there's a few people here I hope never to see again afterwards.

Skeldas reaction towards this whole thing is reeeeeeeeeeally town.

The fact that we're not lynching 2Pac now is abysmal, I went into a long detailed case on how he's scum and the guy that nearly never posts and vanishes for days at a time shows up with 17 minutes of my case on him having read everything and typed up his case in that time and you're willing to go "Oh coincidence". Nope, it means he was actively following the thread and choosing to lurk. Scum come out of the darkness when there's a case on them and there's fear of them getting lynched, that's what he did. Watch post-game everyone come in and state how 2Pac not getting lynched right now is one of the dumbest things ever.

[Regfan]

FOR THE LAST TIME, I'm not voting 2pac today.

I know EXACTLY what you are trying to do but I'm NOT falling for it. I don't have a high win rate because I'm wrong and I bow to pressure. I have a high win ratio because I catch scum and win games. I will not go against my reads. I believe in my reads and I think you are either scum or wrong here. Kill me tonight if you have to.

I will not vote WITH my scum reads AGAINST my townreads, no matter which townread you switch to.

Seriously? This is growing pathetic; you wanted me to explain my scum read on 2Pac in a big case, I did. When you didn't comment on what's wrong about it or how his response is insanely scummy instead you're going "Nope, not listening lalalallala my scum reads are voting him so I'm not listening lalalala" it's piss poor. And if you honestly think that I can even potentially be scum here and still maintain that you have a good win rate due to good reads then you're laughable; I've never been more obvtown in any of my games than this one (And guess what; Bob was obvtown too).

[Regfan]

Reg vs Ree and Nom vs Pac are reading like townfights to me. They're generating a lot of noise in the thread for very little gain. Who benefits from that? Skeldascum certainly does, Fuzzyscum might. I don't think Satan is scum, and I've got a hard townread on ran.

Actually no, 2Pac hasn't made a "lot of noise" so this entire thing is logically unsound. Please read my case against him, please ISO him.

[Regfan]

Alright, heading to my root canal thing; really hope someone hammers 2Pac before I'm back (And I might be too groggy to get to a computer after it).

If I die tonight please please please make sure that 2Pac and Satan get lynched at some point. Noticed a few odd things in Fuzzy in a casual re-read too so don't let him slide through either; I think 2Pac-> Satan-> Fuzzy wins the game.

[Regfan]

Got a few minute break, just going to re-quote this for anyone that missed it and for Fuzzy since he seems to be the decision maker here.

Here's why 2Pacs scum (If he's not lynched after this...);

1) 2Pac's Post 57 is a "serious vote" based around Nominull not reading a specific post from the mod (Not reading a post from the mod is generally a null-tell) but

the vital thing to note here is that there's no progression here at all, he maintains this scum read throughout the game

(Guess who keeps the same first vote as their scum read for the whole day; scum). In Post 67 he states that an OMGUS vote is a scum-tell but never comments on Satans initial OMGUS vote; this shows fabrication information to push a specific player rather than actually objectively scumhunt.

2)

Things like Post 81 where he goes "Gonna need to exlpain 39" or "Explain 79" in Post 99 are fake attempts to contribute,

they're empty questions asked with no reasoning behind them and no follow up afterwards. That's scum pretending to scumhunt.

3) In Post 99 he states that Bob is scum but in Post 127 Bob voting with him suddenly makes Bob town - that's fake reads. Literally no reasoning for Bob being town other than voting with him. In Post 106 he has a scum read on Fuzzy, it's not there previously and the only reasoning behind it is attacking 2Pac for lurking. He puts forward a case against Fuzzy in Post 138. In Post 248 he calls Fuzzy scum again. Then in Post 262 he doesn't keep his vote on Nom who he constantly calls scum, Fuzzy who he has constantly said is scum but instead, Mr Ree and lets look at his reasoning, it's becasue Ree called a post of Skeldas town and because he voted Fuzzy calling him new or scum. In this post he also FoS's Skelda.

So lets get this right; he calls Fuzzy is scum, Ree is scum, Nom is scum, Skelda is scum, notice how he's leaving himself a lot of people he can mslynch with the only person in the entire game that he's called town being Satan for one post and Bob for voting with him

Also note in Post 303 because Skelda ignored his FoS.

4)

In Post 379 my reads are "spot on" apparently but Satan is "newb" not "scum", I ask for reasoning behind it and instead in Post 437 he changes to "all your reads are based on associative and meta tells" which is an attempt to decredit.

He ignores the question I asked him, turns it on me saying "Explain his scum motivation" which I did do. I point all this out and

he goes in Post 469 that he was "purposely" downplaying my reads

pretty much because I have a scum read on him and remember these are the reads he agrees with and are spot on. That's what scum do.

Oh and the biggest scum tell of all; I post my case on you at 8;05am, you respond at 8;22am. This means you logged on, read everything including my post and typed up your own in 17 minutes. No chance that's a coincidence, it means you've been lurking the thread for some time now without posting which is scum actively lurking.

[SafetyDance]

Votecount 1.11

2Pac (4): Nominull, Regfan, Ranawey, Skelda ^(L-1)

skelda (3): sthar8, SatanHellYeah, Mr_Ree

Nominull (2):

2Pac, TheFuzzylogic99

Not voting

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Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-09-25 09:00:00). With 9 players, it's 5 to lynch.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

@ regfan_
,
I dont like your last to posts.....not at all. You pretty much say I am scum than you put me in the spot to lynch 2Pac .I feel like I am being set up to take the fall if 2Pac flips town. I have the feeling that I will be the day 2 target, that if I dont get NKed first. Maybe I am being paranoid but I have a bad gut feeling about the whole thing. If I am scum why are you desperatly trying to get my vote.

[Ranawey]

Welp, if you're scum, you're putting yourself in the spot if 2Pac flips scum and you're not voting for him. If he flips town, we'll see.

[Impetus]

This is Regfan - I can't log into my account since I don't remember my password (It's only on my laptop as autologin and "send password" seems to be broken for the site). I just finished my root canal and rushed to get to a internet cafe for this game.

Fuzzy, the situation is simple 1) I don't really have a scum read on you; if anything I have a town read on you but there's a few things I really disliked reading your ISO for instance your slimy change of read on Nom and really you're only in the above "Lynch" list as process of elimination. I'm fairly confident that it's Satan + 2Pac but if I'm wrong on one of them then you're likely the second in that I have really strong town reads on everyone else.

And 2) You're the only person to try and get to vote 2Pac. 2Pac won't selfvote, Satan has made it clear he won't buss his partner. Ree is being stubborn and annoying and he won't change his vote. Sthar won't change his vote because he thinks 2Pac is town for "Creating noise" when he hasn't done thta at all and everyone else is already voting 2Pac. So it's quite simple, you're the only person with a realistic chance of voting 2Pac and you

need

to do so. You doing this "Don't want him since it might be next" if anything actually makes me more suspicious that you're not willing to lynch him despite me putting forward a massive case on him. So if you're town here, stop for a second and think, read the case, then vote 2Pac, he'll flip scum and we can get Satan tomorrow.

[Impetus]

Just over 6 hours until deadline, seriously Fuzzy you need to vote 2Pac here quite badly, you not doing so is just increasing the odds of a no-lynch occurring and you're not actually arguing that the logic on 2Pac being scum in my case is wrong so there's no logical reason for you not to vote him.

Alright, I'm going to take the trek home now. If the mod needs I'll quote the above post and this one when I get home on my Regfan account to prove that it's me if there's no lynch by then but there really should be.

[Ranawey]

I hope that we are all here at least 1 hour before deadline. I've got the feeling that this will result in a nolynch.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Okay.....fine

Do i need to intend to hammer or do i just hammer?

[Ranawey]

Intent to hammer, if 2Pac doesn't answer before you have to go, hammer.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

i intend to hammer 2Pac......

So if you have a claim you need to make it now.

[Regfan]

Just confirming these are mine and that I'm now home (2 hour trip one-way is not fun).

Fuzzy, just remember to make sure you hammer before you have to go, I don't want to hear things like "Woops forgot".

This is Regfan - I can't log into my account since I don't remember my password (It's only on my laptop as autologin and "send password" seems to be broken for the site). I just finished my root canal and rushed to get to a internet cafe for this game.

Fuzzy, the situation is simple 1) I don't really have a scum read on you; if anything I have a town read on you but there's a few things I really disliked reading your ISO for instance your slimy change of read on Nom and really you're only in the above "Lynch" list as process of elimination. I'm fairly confident that it's Satan + 2Pac but if I'm wrong on one of them then you're likely the second in that I have really strong town reads on everyone else.

And 2) You're the only person to try and get to vote 2Pac. 2Pac won't selfvote, Satan has made it clear he won't buss his partner. Ree is being stubborn and annoying and he won't change his vote. Sthar won't change his vote because he thinks 2Pac is town for "Creating noise" when he hasn't done thta at all and everyone else is already voting 2Pac. So it's quite simple, you're the only person with a realistic chance of voting 2Pac and you

need

to do so. You doing this "Don't want him since it might be next" if anything actually makes me more suspicious that you're not willing to lynch him despite me putting forward a massive case on him. So if you're town here, stop for a second and think, read the case, then vote 2Pac, he'll flip scum and we can get Satan tomorrow.

Just over 6 hours until deadline, seriously Fuzzy you need to vote 2Pac here quite badly, you not doing so is just increasing the odds of a no-lynch occurring and you're not actually arguing that the logic on 2Pac being scum in my case is wrong so there's no logical reason for you not to vote him.

Alright, I'm going to take the trek home now. If the mod needs I'll quote the above post and this one when I get home on my Regfan account to prove that it's me if there's no lynch by then but there really should be.

[Regfan]

Just a reminder; Deadline is in less than 4 hours and when you vote it has to be a separate line.