Xenogears Mafia (Game Over)

[borkjerfkin]

Votecount 4.2

[6] Nachomamma8 (Trust Fund, zMuffinMan, Ghostlin, TiphaineDeath, Andrius, Mac)
[3] Aj The Epic (waynegg, Nachomamma8, Faster Than Light)
[1] Antihero (notscience)
[1] Faster Than Light (Desperado)

[3] Not Voting (Aj The Epic, BROseidon, Antihero)

With 14 alive, it is 8 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2013-10-06 23:00:00)

[zMuffinMan]

and i am not contributing to the lynch on nacho

well seeing as you haven't participated in any of the scum lynches, i feel rather good about my nacho vote now.

in seriousness though, i don't think many of the people voting nacho think AJ is town. just that nacho is a better lynch.

[zMuffinMan]

btw, do you have any scum reads on the nacho wagon?

coz i mean... getting rid of nacho-town seems like something scum should be jumping all over and i don't see that happening here.

[Faster Than Light]

and i am not contributing to the lynch on nacho

well seeing as you haven't participated in any of the scum lynches, i feel rather good about my nacho vote now.

in seriousness though, i don't think many of the people voting nacho think AJ is town. just that nacho is a better lynch.

just because im slow to the party.....



hmm thers only 4 votes on nacho


my scum reads are aj and desp and probably bro



the scum are down by 2 they're going to be more careful instead of "Jumping all over"

[Faster Than Light]

* i was thinking of the old votecount


according to the above VC it seems that this is a town driven wagon


the last time that happened we got a nick lynch...

and varsoon was doing a funny "bnb u suck" hammer

[Mac]

and i am not contributing to the lynch on nacho

well seeing as you haven't participated in any of the scum lynches, i feel rather good about my nacho vote now.

in seriousness though, i don't think many of the people voting nacho think AJ is town. just that nacho is a better lynch.

this is a point. p sure both oour scum hammers have been followed by ftl going "aw darn too late!"

[Faster Than Light]

ok so thats my fault

next time i will hammer early

[zMuffinMan]

the last time that happened we got a nick lynch...

please, the nick wagon was never town-driven. it had town players on it (like any wagon), but it was far from town-driven.

[zMuffinMan]

i mean, really, one of my main fucking objections to the nick wagon was the people on it and the reasons they were giving.

[Faster Than Light]

Bnb was clearly town

idk about the rest...

[borkjerfkin]

Flavor has finally been added to the Night 3 scene. I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused.

[TiphaineDeath]

Answer for mac:

[Andrius]

I don't have anything new to contribute.
So this is me posting.
Nacholynch pls.

[waynegg]

I don't have anything new to contribute.
So this is me posting.
Nacholynch pls.

If you can show me where and why Nacho is scum, and it makes sense. I don't see it.

[waynegg]

Flavor has finally been added to the Night 3 scene. I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused.

[Andrius]

I don't have anything new to contribute.
So this is me posting.
Nacholynch pls.

If you can show me where and why Nacho is scum, and it makes sense. I don't see it.

Its ok we can lynch you after him.
Or me and you hammer.
Either way.

[waynegg]

That would be a waste if you're town. But it kinda sounds like a challenge. Always like a challenge. Tell you what...if you get run up to L-1 I'll call your bluff.

[Nachomamma8]

DESPERADO/BRO, FULLCLAIM KIDS

[Trust Fund]

Bork, I got jury duty so as the primary head of Trust Fund, we'll be VLA for the next week and a half or so. I'll post some, but very limited.

Also nacho you owe us like two cases from.... three days ago, and they're two days overdue. Pay your fine, or plead an exception, because otherwise I'm sending your account to collections.

[Nachomamma8]

actually i might be a poor lynch today and might not have to effort away quite yet

your role is a vanillaizer that only works on scum
means that it's hard as hell to use and mostly useless unless the scumteam is stacked
there's no reason to limit varsoon's vanilla cop unless the scumteam is similarly stacked with PRs

[notscience]

FTL talk to me about AJ's claim.

[Ghostlin]

actually i might be a poor lynch today and might not have to effort away quite yet

your role is a vanillaizer that only works on scum
means that it's hard as hell to use and mostly useless unless the scumteam is stacked
there's no reason to limit varsoon's vanilla cop unless the scumteam is similarly stacked with PRs

This is bullshit. You know this is bullshit. Town Nacho has nothing to lose and everything to gain by disclosing his cases for full Town consumption. We've been waiting for Nacho to show up four in game days now.

Nut up or shut up and be lynched. We might do it anyway, but at least this way you tried.

[BROseidon]

DESPERADO/BRO, FULLCLAIM KIDS

Why the fuck would I ever claim before L-1 ever?

[Ghostlin]

I don't have anything new to contribute.
So this is me posting.
Nacholynch pls.

If you can show me where and why Nacho is scum, and it makes sense. I don't see it.

Nacho is scum in my eyes for the following reasons:

*He's been underwhelming all game. By Day 4, I expect some kind of push. In Xenosaga he was all over the place. Here..he makes a few points here or there, but he's not steering, nor is he leading from anywhere. This isn't Nacho--at least not Town Nacho.

*There are some who have said 'give Nacho time and he'll pick up'. It's Day 4. If he's not producing now (and he's not) he's not gonna.

*This one's difficult to follow, but here goes: Nacho, quite publicly, caught me as scum because I can't fake logical Town thought well. He's hedged his bets (particularly with his interactions with Mastin, but even how he's treated people like me who he's said earlier he wanted to 'interact more with' and really hasn't) and he's produced low enough content to kinda squeak by.

*The AJ/BRO/Des case is an excellent example of all the above. Nacho can make a weak non-committal push without a case. As Town, even lazy Town, Nacho has no reason not to release the case. As scum, he has reason to hold off to see if his wagon will dissolve and we'll bite. I'm 90% sure he's bussing one buddy there for cred, and 75% sure sure he's bussing both for cred. In fact, if scum don't cross bus they'll die.

*Nacho has made the argument that he's done nothing that would indicate he was scum. The reverse is painfully also true. There's nothing to indicate that Nacho's town, either. It's a hollow and somewhat misleading argument by someone who I expected to be higher key and give a shit, and has promised to give a shit multiple days now.

*This is not a reason why I think Nacho is scum. However, a number of people if you analyze the night kills knew Nacho's playstyle. The remaining two with history I know about are myself and Andrius. Now, my problem with this 'argument', is it leads to an orgy of evidence wifomic problem. (Look up 'orgy of evidence' in TVTropes). Scum could be killing people with a history with Nacho to make us fucking look there, but Nacho's still a good lynch DESPITE that. Or even BECAUSE of it.

[Ghostlin]

That would be a waste if you're town. But it kinda sounds like a challenge. Always like a challenge. Tell you what...if you get run up to L-1 I'll call your bluff.

Girls, girls. You're both fucking pretty.

Seriously, neither of you are scum, and it's a fucking waste either way. Andy, you know Wayne's into fringe theory from the 'saga game. Wayne, Andrius isn't scum. Fuck, I'm not scum. Run me up to L-1, and I guarantee no one in this town will fucking lynch me.