La Isla de la Muerte (Game over!)

displaced · Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:55 am

14+4+1 setup is fine

your not making any sense wrt there being no mafia left ...

Titus · Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:02 am

Balance. I'm not saying I'm certain there are no mafia left. I'm just saying that's where my gut is. If you are right though that there is a final mafia goon, then we're at mylo. If we mislynch, we could be eliminated handily. If not, we would require the scums to kill each other.

We have

VT VT Commuter SK Mafia

OR

VT VT VT Commuter SK

My townread on Beli has been softening since his mistaken push on FF. His defense of Saki is what made me really like him as town.

I'm going to see if any of the scum slots did read walls. That would help catch a last mafia if there is one.

PeregrineV · Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:31 am

In post 1274, Titus wrote:Mafia kill processed at the same line as SK kill.

4 scum in an 18 player game seems right. 5 is ok but pushing it.

That is why I cannot be sure there are mafia left.

4 mafia in a 16 player game.
Throw in an SK and make it 18 players.

1 mafia and 1 SK left.

Titus · Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:58 am

Where do you think we should look for the mafia or SK?

I'm seeing your slot and displaced not voting when the Who wagon ended. Beli is almost certainly not mafia as I cannot imagine the mafia being in the first position on a bus. Possible but unlikely.

PeregrineV · Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:57 am

In post 1278, Titus wrote:Where do you think we should look for the mafia or SK?

I'm seeing your slot and displaced not voting when the Who wagon ended. Beli is almost certainly not mafia as I cannot imagine the mafia being in the first position on a bus. Possible but unlikely.

He was second on the Who wagon (774). I unvoted because of the doc claim.

PeregrineV · Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:00 am

Unvote.

I don't know yet. I'm focusing on another game right now. But I think it's 3:1:1.

I'll have to go back and look for scum interactions since off the top of my head I don't recall ruling out anyone except Former.

Belisarius
displaced replaces Venmar, who replaced Baby Spice, who replaced Sakura Hana
JacobSavage replaces JasonWazza
PeregrineV
Titus replaces waynegg

StrangerCoug · Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:49 am

VOTE COUNT

Not voting (5): Belisarius, displaced, JacobSavage, Titus, PeregrineV

With

5

players alive, it takes

3

votes to lynch.

Day 4 ends in (expired on 2013-09-29 05:50:57).

Titus · Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:53 am

Ok then displaced goes up to the top of the list. The guy who I replaced in seemed to have a fixation on that slot being scum which caused our slot to be run up for an equally silly reason. Given he was the only player not on the mafia lynch, it deserved renewed attention.

Belisarius · Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:26 pm

But again, displaced can only be scum. PV can be either SK or scum. Our chances of lynching correctly are double if we lynch PV over displaced.

I'm not liking PV's claim of lead on the Who wagon; I think it built steam and got too close to deadline faster than intended and he was looking for a reason to hop off. He could afford to vote early for distancing knowing that the doctor claim was coming if it got out of hand. PV is definitely the correct lynch for today.

Titus · Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:54 pm

Why can't displaced be the SK?

I'd rather lynch sure scum, regardless of the faction at this point. We need to reduce the KPN. That leaves scum with fewer options because they won't know when I'd commute.

displaced · Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:41 pm

im not any kind of scum ... beli knows im not the SK because he knows who it is really, since scum shot the sk but found him wearing a bulletproof vest

displaced · Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:47 pm

In post 1283, Belisarius wrote:But again, displaced can only be scum. PV can be either SK or scum. Our chances of lynching correctly are double if we lynch PV over displaced.

I'm not liking PV's claim of lead on the Who wagon; I think it built steam and got too close to deadline faster than intended and he was looking for a reason to hop off. He could afford to vote early for distancing knowing that the doctor claim was coming if it got out of hand. PV is definitely the correct lynch for today.

see on my read through Pere's who voted looked totally natural in response to who's post, it didnt look like a bus AT ALL

Belisarius · Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:45 am

In post 1284, Titus wrote:Why can't displaced be the SK?

Well, after checking timestamps, it's not

impossible

, but it's not highly likely.

displaced-slot joined 8 hours before the end of N3. There was a SK kill submitted N3.

I suppose an unemployed hobo might have been able to read the entire game and decide on an apposite kill in 8 hours, but nobody else would have.

Someone who had been following the game and waiting to replace in would have known who to kill, but if displaced was such a person, why wait until nearly the end of N3 to replace in? That slot was vacant for quite a long time, and displaced could not have known the alignment of the slot before replacing in.

In post 1285, displaced wrote:im not any kind of scum ... beli knows im not the SK because he knows who it is really, since scum shot the sk but found him wearing a bulletproof vest

SKs get 1-shot BP on this site; if I was scum who knew who the SK was, I'd be coasting today to avoid the lynch and shooting the SK tonight.

JacobSavage · Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:06 am

displaced-slot joined 8 hours before the end of N3. There was a SK kill submitted N3.

I suppose an unemployed hobo might have been able to read the entire game and decide on an apposite kill in 8 hours, but nobody else would have.

Good thing to know I can't be scum then hey.

Still haven't read the game.

PeregrineV · Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:35 am

In post 1287, Belisarius wrote:
In post 1284, Titus wrote:Why can't displaced be the SK?
Well, after checking timestamps, it's not
impossible
, but it's not highly likely.

displaced-slot joined 8 hours before the end of N3. There was a SK kill submitted N3.

I suppose an unemployed hobo might have been able to read the entire game and decide on an apposite kill in 8 hours, but nobody else would have.

Someone who had been following the game and waiting to replace in would have known who to kill, but if displaced was such a person, why wait until nearly the end of N3 to replace in? That slot was vacant for quite a long time, and displaced could not have known the alignment of the slot before replacing in.

In post 1285, displaced wrote:im not any kind of scum ... beli knows im not the SK because he knows who it is really, since scum shot the sk but found him wearing a bulletproof vest
SKs get 1-shot BP on this site; if I was scum who knew who the SK was, I'd be coasting today to avoid the lynch and shooting the SK tonight.

Lot's of assumption errors here that don't make much sense.

1. SK can submit a kill without reading the thread.
2. Standard 1-shot BP SKs are not standard, and if they were, this is a large theme.
3. Do you have any concrete evidence about why displaced is scum?

JacobSavage · Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:24 am

Something I'm getting increasing concerned about is that this is a Bastard game...

I haven't seen much evidence of that so far. I'm confused.

Unless thats why its bastard, it isn't

PeregrineV · Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:31 am

@Jacob- Top choice for mafia, SK, and town, please.

JacobSavage · Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:38 am

Scum:
Belisarius

SK:
PeregrineV

TOWN:
Titus
displaced

PeregrineV · Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:44 am

In post 1283, Belisarius wrote:But again, displaced can only be scum. PV can be either SK or scum. Our chances of lynching correctly are double if we lynch PV over displaced.

I'm not liking PV's claim of lead on the Who wagon; I think it built steam and got too close to deadline faster than intended and he was looking for a reason to hop off. He could afford to vote early for distancing knowing that the doctor claim was coming if it got out of hand. PV is definitely the correct lynch for today.

I'll put your choices as

Scum- me or dicplaced

SK-me

town-Jacob
Titus

PeregrineV · Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:50 am

In post 114, Who wrote:
In post 69, Sakura Hana wrote:It is proven that scum doesn't know how to read, let alone they use their inability to read to push for mislynches with bad reasoning.
In post 21, SalmonellaDoctor wrote:
In post 8, waynegg wrote:Not investing that kind of time to deduce typos...
This is anti-town.
VOTE: waynegg

In post 28, Sakura Hana wrote:also I agree with that vote
Belisarius + waynegg scumteam calling it.
She had the same reason as SD, that you not wanting to take the time to decode Boxxy's restriction was not townie.

Who defending Titus from displaced regarding ThirdKoopa.....

PeregrineV · Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:09 am

Kill types:

Mafia kills

Klick, who was a cop, has been disemboweled on Night 1.
Karnage, who was a nurse, has been thrown off a cliff on Night 2.
Desperado, who was a vanilla townie, has been decapitated on Night 3.
No scumkill night4 ???
Formerfish, who replaced Mitzi (hydra of Metal Sonic and Marquis), who was a cop, has been strangled on Night 5.

SK kills:

Zoidberg, who was a roleblocker, has been torched on Night 1.
??? night 2.
Skullduggery, who was an inventor turned voteless inventor, has been set on fire on Night 3.
Saki, who was a one-shot lynchproof townie, has been set on fiyah on Night 4.
Lucky2u, who replaced ferretlover, who replaced Ten_Heavens, who was a Mafia role cop, has been roasted on Night 5.

PeregrineV · Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:27 am

Ferretlover/lucky & Who both soft protect Titus, making her seem like a scum partner.

displaced replaced Venmar in night2, the night there was no SK kill.

PeregrineV · Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:35 am

@Titus

- Did you commute on night 2 and/or night 4?

Belisarius · Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:23 pm

JESUS FUCK TITUS DON'T ANSWER THAT

Titus · Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:02 pm

Agreed. Answering that does no good. I could lie, but that doesn't do any good. Basically, the town benefits if we assume I have both commutings left.

PereV, analyze the game supposing I commuted and didn't commute in the alternative.

There were two deaths on night 2. Why are you suggesting no SK kill?