Mini 1496: The Cash Cabd (Game Over)

[artemiskitty]

this is also why i wanted RT to explain further on his town read of BS

[Natirasha]

Okay, thanks.

[ProHawk]

i was saying to Prohawk, in response to his question on why Brian is town to me. is that i have liked all of Brian's posts. i still think Brian is town. and i'm partially sus of PH for pushing a wagon/lynch vote on him.

Do you realize how incredibly ironic this statement is considering Brian pushed a lynch on

confirmed town

, and you aren't the least bit suspicious of him?

[Brian Skies]

Anyway. This is my warning to all hydras. I'm treating you like any other player. I won't accept excuses like:

a) the other head read it.
b) I didn't say that.
c) He thinks x but I think y.
d) I don't read the game but he does.

or others in a similar vein. You're warned.

@Hydras:
1) Are you ok with this?
2) Do any of you think they will do this?
3) Do you consider you'll be fully committed to the game despite having a fallback guy who can carry you even if you don't pay attention?
4) Do you have a regular mean to confer with your other head?

@Non-hydras:
What are your opinions about what I just said?

"Even though you have two heads, I will treat you as one entity." I like this.

I agree and will also be treating them as such. Regardless of who performs it, a scum move is a scum move and will affect my read accordingly. If you can't properly coordinate your heads, that's on you, not the town.

Okay. I get it. I made a mistake in my post when I omitted the top part of the quote but not the questions at the bottom. I explicitly said I liked HP's approach towards hydras. But I never even mention the questions. And yet, I still find myself defending this.

I agree. All that needs to be said is: "Hi, I'm HumblePoirot. To make things easier for me, I am going to treat each hydra as a single entity, regardless of the heads involved." End.

You don't need their approval to read them the way you want to read them. They don't need to tell you how they're going to use the hydra. It is meaningless fluff.

Your questions don't seem to benefit the town in any way and have almost no real usage, if any, in sorting out the hydras.

I didn't like HP's reactions towards RT's refusal to answer his questions. And everything in this post is what I thought at that time.

Brian Skies concerns me a little. He comes off rather agreeable.

This is only my second game, and my first dealing with hydras. I liked HP's logic in dealing with hydras, especially since there are so many of them (almost a quarter of the player base).

But I never said I liked his questions. They're pretty useless in my opinion and I don't see how they can help us scumhunt. After browsing other games, I feel like a lot of useless pages will be produced from arguing about them.

his reaction to hydras looked over the top and fake. i understand that he linked some game with hydras that he modded and this was apparently bad for whatever reason, but it still looked fake, and i could see him using that as an excuse to berate hydras and pretend he's doing something. i also dislike the questions he asked because they serve no purpose in determining anything, and only add to my suspicion that he's trying to look like he's doing something when he's not actually doing anything

I originally thought it was for self-gratification and an attempt at a townread. However, I like the logic in this post. I'll read through that link later.

UNVOTE: artemiskitty
VOTE: Humble Poirot

Also, I may be a new player, but please don't treat me as one. I don't like crutches.

This is pretty self-explanatory. I'm a relatively new player to this site, and my only experience up to this point is my first game which still hasn't completed yet. So I'm still learning and researching everything I can.

Also, I don't mind being called agreeable. I'm an agreeable person. I can be skeptical too, though. But one thing I don't like is being misrepped. I realized my mistake in my earlier post and tried to clear it up. I spend a great deal of time having to do this.

Well, I'll be reading through that link as soon as it's posted. =(

When someone presents a case and evidence supporting that case, do you just take the evidence at face value? I sure as hell don't. I at least want to make sure evidence supporting a case checks out. Otherwise you're just giving people free reign to post anything they want.

Recently, however, I have developed an aversion to self-metas. I don't like the idea of trying to gauge someones play-style by reading a game I wasn't a part of.

And yet, you didn't mention this. You only mention it now.

woah. you're really reading the whole thing? I'm so sorry for you.

I don't mind being called "agreeable" as long as it's referring to the correct things.

I'd rather nip a potential problem in the bud than getting misrepresented down the road.

Oh gee. The irony.

[ProHawk]

Whoops, that quote screwed up badly. Artemis said the quote, not Nati.

[ProHawk]

Brian, what are you doing?

[Brian Skies]

@ProHawk: I'm sick of defending that post. It was on page 1, and even 38 pages into the game, I find myself having to deal with it again. DB was misrepresenting me with it. I thought he could have been scum for it. I was wrong. I can't be wrong?

[artemiskitty]

i was saying to Prohawk, in response to his question on why Brian is town to me. is that i have liked all of Brian's posts. i still think Brian is town. and i'm partially sus of PH for pushing a wagon/lynch vote on him.

Do you realize how incredibly ironic this statement is considering Brian pushed a lynch on

confirmed town

, and you aren't the least bit suspicious of him?

ironic is the wrong word >.>

i'm not really

[artemiskitty]

stop trying to make him look bad PH!

[artemiskitty]

prohawk... you know that a bunch of people also pushed a wagon, on a *confirmed town* too, right?

[Cephrir]

NS, Cephir and Prohawk

You should probably lay off the drugs.

Unfortunately they might be town drugs.

[Rail Tracer]

NS, Cephir and Prohawk

You should probably lay off the drugs.

Unfortunately they might be town drugs.

you are correct on both points, most likely.

[Rail Tracer]

cephy, can i call you cephy? (i don't care, i'm calling you that anyway)

care to lynch natirasha?

[Rail Tracer]

because i very much think NS is scum. if i'm wrong on that... i will have to re-adjust.

is anything going to change your mind today, or are you confbiasing until ns flips and then reassessing?

[Cephrir]

cephy, can i call you cephy? (i don't care, i'm calling you that anyway)

care to lynch natirasha?

You may.

Only if I get no traction on Titus and Mario.

[artemiskitty]

cephy, can i call you cephy? (i don't care, i'm calling you that anyway)

care to lynch natirasha?

You may.

Only if I get no traction on Titus and Mario.

^so bad

[artemiskitty]

SOS, do you see this?

[artemiskitty]

titus is town, Cephir. Mario was a lurker who is now being replaced. cephir, you are really so adamant on lynching a lurker? (Mario). i call pure BS on your part.
you're not even giving the mario slot a chance. you are completely hoping for a mislynch there.

[Rail Tracer]

you know... if you're

completely wrong in your reads

, what ceph said is not that bad at all.

[Rail Tracer]

(also i am fairly sure that cephy isn't voting mario because of "lurking" - it just so happens that mario is a lurker)

[Rail Tracer]

@sos,

how's the meta stuff going and what needs to happen to get you to see what i'm seeing?

[Cephrir]

titus is town, Cephir. Mario was a lurker who is now being replaced. cephir, you are really so adamant on lynching a lurker? (Mario). i call pure BS on your part.
you're not even giving the mario slot a chance. you are completely hoping for a mislynch there.

Titus is not town. Mario is scummy as fuck. You are so far off base it's ridiculous.

[Sound of Silence]

@brian

is there a reason you're not voting titus?

Not really. I tend to not vote or move my vote when I should. I can vote her anytime, but it's not like there is a lack of discussion going on.

Also, Mantis claims she is sure titus is town and I have limited experience playing with titus.

How confident are you on your Nati-wagon? I haven't liked that slot all game. I feel like there should be some glimpse of town-Saki in his actions, but I'm not seeing anything like that this game.

What is town-Saki? i.e., what is missing in Saki's posts?

[Sound of Silence]

don't do that, please. i can honestly not think of a good reason not to give your entire thoughts on the game.

This statement to ProHawk is at huge odds with your stance about not sharing your reasons for thinking ns is town.

[Rail Tracer]

it isn't, for two reasons. the first being that i specifically clarified that i don't care if he explains his town reads as long as he states them, and the second being no.