Mini 1496: The Cash Cabd (Game Over)

[ProHawk]

Hell yes.

Vote: Nastyrasha

Now this. This reminds me of Xeno.

Behind the Scenes=QT

[Rail Tracer]

assume no one agrees with your brian case for a moment, prohawk (i know, i know, it's hard to imagine, but we'll talk about it theoretically for now)

who would you be willing to vote and why?

[ProHawk]

Lemme take a closer look at Nati and I will get back to you.

Lets start hearing counter-arguments to what I have presented.

[Rail Tracer]

Lets start hearing counter-arguments to what I have presented.

er...

i disagree with the 'hypothesis' in #993 (or rather, i think the evidence is unconvincing).

and he's already explained the HP stuff.

so i'm not sure exactly what you want to hear counter-arguments to.

[Rail Tracer]

like, i mean, you went on to refute some of your own points in #993, but ended up hypothesising that he was avoiding the thread here and waiting for others to find DB suspicious. and this is the crux of your hypothesis about him being cautious scum. *shrug* he could be scum, you could be right, but i see no reason to think so atm, and i'd rather not lynch him because you

could

be right.

[Rebel Without a Pulse]

Hell yes.

Vote: Nastyrasha

Now this. This reminds me of Xeno.

Behind the Scenes=QT

This seems townish from you.

[Rebel Without a Pulse]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30297

ffery, what's your take on this? saki fakeclaimed early and got wrecked. he rescinded his fakeclaim here while this game was ongoing. i haven't checked timestamps, but this game has been on the back of my mind for a while.

[Sound of Silence]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30297

ffery, what's your take on this? saki fakeclaimed early and got wrecked. he rescinded his fakeclaim here while this game was ongoing. i haven't checked timestamps, but this game has been on the back of my mind for a while.

I read through to his lynch. Slightly different sort of situation. The fake claim came on day 2, not early day 1. But, getting wrecked that way could certainly have affected his plans here.

I remember thinking that changing his style when he did might be because of the way Xenologue ended. Your game makes a better proximate cause.

But, I think your question is whether rescinding a fake claim in this game in the light of that game makes him more likely to be scum. And my answer is I don't know.

[Titus]

@Rail Tracer, Yeah no duty to respond. However, Town NS should be pissed about being ignored. Someone called his contributions minimal and overlooked his wall. That should have been met with outrage. Instead, NS focuses just on me rather than calling tht person out. To me, that totally suggests a scum tunnel as town still care as to who is listening and care when they are misrepped by implication.

I also see no evidence of nati scum. I see Nati reading and contributing. So he's a town read.

[Rail Tracer]

oooooooooooh.

1480 was the game HP referenced that got him force-replaced.

yeah, that just makes me even more sure about the point i made about saki's replacement.

[Rail Tracer]

@titus,

when you say you see no evidence of nati scum do you mean the arguments have been unconvincing or do you literally mean you can't think of a reason why nati is scum? because i can give you like 10 reasons off the top of my head, from my analysis of the d1 wagon to way saki replaced to nati's actual play so far.

why does reading and contributing make someone town?

[Rail Tracer]

like i mean i'm reading and contributing (i think), sos is reading and contributing (i think), but you have us as scum reads apparently, so...................

[Titus]

@Rt, Rebel in 973 implies that ns hadn't done much (fallen off the face of the earth). 975 ns replies something about a wagon. He never mentions his own push on me to Nacho. I reply what the fuck but in a polite way. Cephir an ns read that callout as supposing ns as town. That's bullshit. To me there has to be a scum in Rebel/ns/Cephir as the whole thing was way too awkward.

Why do you keep dismissing players you disagree eith as nonsensical? You did it first with me nd now AK.

Nothing jumps out as scummy regarding NT.

Off to work. May be on during lunch. Do not expect it.

[Titus]

NT is Natirasha.

[Titus]

You and SoS have done scummy things, illogicl statements, hostility to questions, etc. Those suggest scum but SoS is a weaker read.

[Rail Tracer]

Why do you keep dismissing players you disagree with as nonsensical? You did it first with me nd now AK.

i don't really know what you're talking here. i remember calling fuduzn's posts nonsensical (because they were - he was making a bigger deal out of the "wagon" on him than he should have been, and pretending he was being attacked by many players when it was more like 3-4 max, and the stuff he was saying about scum attacking him and whatnot was just plain dumb) but i don't remember talking about you, except that i didn't like your sudden shift to NS at the end of yesterday and you've been underwhelming so far.

as for AK, his arguments

are

nonsensical. prohawk did a good job of pointing out why, and that's a large part of why i'm ignoring him suggesting that someone attacking a town read of his is likely scum

while simultaneously suggesting there may have been no scum on the DB wagon

. because that appears to be the crux of the reasons they think certain players are scum. i also think his reads are so far off it's not funny.

illogical statements, hostility to questions, etc. Those suggest scum

no, not really, but outside of the rqs hydra bullshit, what are you referring to here? what illogical statements and any other hostility?

[Sound of Silence]

I think I understand what Titus is referring to with respect to me.

- I pushed back hard on her "it's hard to catch up" excuses late day 1

- I was dismissive of her "You're going to reread the thread, right?" response to my comment about thinking there could be something off in my town reads. The reason I was dismissive was because I've made a number of posts starting late last week to the effect that I have been rereading, re-isoing, re-metaing, etc. There's plenty of evidence that I've rethought in my recent posts. Probably more to come once GiF and I synch.

- I indicated I am not likely to take her advice

I didn't mention it, but there are indications in this thread that she has very little accuracy in reading post tone. My reads are to some extent based on the tone of posts because tone is the "body language" of text. I can't really take in a scumhunting style that misses or misinterprets tone. And I don't expect to have many points of parallel thought with someone who doesn't use that channel of information.

[notscience]

My leaning-town is primarily due to 2 things

1- game experience/gut (I'm liking this for his towngame)

2- I don't see the possibility for a Titus-Nati scumteam.

Hawk can you explain what you mean? I don't really get how it's personality based.

[notscience]

@Nacho

[artemiskitty]

titus is town, Cephir. Mario was a lurker who is now being replaced. cephir, you are really so adamant on lynching a lurker? (Mario). i call pure BS on your part.
you're not even giving the mario slot a chance. you are completely hoping for a mislynch there.

Titus is not town. Mario is scummy as fuck. You are so far off base it's ridiculous.

titus is town. and mario was not that scummy.
i don't think im off base with them.

[artemiskitty]

SOS, do you see this?

this is insane.

SOS.... i am still suspicious of you.

[artemiskitty]

Oh throw in a leaning scum on Cephir.

thank you!
me too

[Natirasha]

My problem with Cephrir-scum is that HumblePeirot was, like, townie to the nth degree.

[artemiskitty]

Ffery why the fuck can't you see that Titus is scum

such bs

[artemiskitty]

My problem with Cephrir-scum is that HumblePeirot was, like, townie to the nth degree.

he was most definitely not! look at his posts. he was flinging crap at everyone
(good method as scum... cause it makes it easy to place your vote where ever)