A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?

[elleheathen]

There's way more to Thor, than Policy Lynching him for Miller.

A)Miller claim
B) His auto-town assertion in his claim
C) His bullSmurfing well into the game about his claim verse being open and truth full.. we're the uniformed, we cant be playing games.
D) His repetitive deflection
E) Fence-sitting/lining up lynches.

Its a great D1 lynch if you ask me. Wayyy to many question marks surrounding that slot.

There's way more to Thor than policy lunching hm for Miller claim;

A) There's Policy Lynching him for Miller claim.
B) There's that he thought his claim was obviously pro-town and said so - the scummy bastich!
C) There's the Casso, King of the Seals nameclaim which me and one other person bought, and other people immediately told us was fake, but Thor didn't until later, and that is anti-town to make me look silly, and obviouslly served a scum agenda of distracting people...namely just me and, like, Ceph(?) I dunno, whoever else bought it.
D) His deflection...of...stuff...I'm guessing the nameclaim? I dunno.
E) Him pseudo bussing his buddy, but I won't vote the buddy, even though that's the only way this is scumplay.

Yep.
Amazing case.

F)The continual downplaying of the shit he did to not make it look as scummy as it is.

[Thor665]

Let me know when you can see anything whatsoever. Your ego seems to be taking up your entire field of vision.

Still not an Amrun vote.

People usually have stronger reactions to Benmage than they should, getting annoyed seems like an emotion unless you want to pull some caught for the wrong reasons bullshit. Weak case.

Yeah, except Benmage wasn't even interacting with her.
The normal response would be 'that case is pretty derp'
Instead it was all 'I'MMA RAGE BENMAGE!' out of nowhere.
Feels like too much belief in my claim and also faked, ergo - scummy.

Why do you think it is so real?

SafetyDance seems like a pretty decent counterwagon; why aren't you on it?

I indicated willingness to hammer him.
Still more interested in seeing who goes where at this stage without me, I don't always get a large Thor wagon to analyze Day 1, it's kind of nice.

I'd rather Displaced were shot though - especially for him having issue with me saying he should be.

rich given you self admittedly need death at some point but what should i be like "yes kill me quick pplease thanks"

1. I never said I needed death.

2. I never said you should...but I do find it bewildering that you should be shocked someone else did. What was your contribution that made it odd for me to say you should be vigged?

I would love if you started a wagon you like, but you haven't done much starting, it seems. I mean, unless the case you've provided on her is a time bomb that everyone hates at first but suddenly there's gonna be this magical explosion of OH MY GOD IT'S BRILLIANT AND NOT JUST A WEAK AND LAZY CASE ON SOMEONE WHO ISN'T HERE, but I'm not optimistic about the chances of that happening.

It almost has already with Ceph and Kanye.
I grow on people, like a fungus.

I'd like to go for Macmollie instead.

I don't think you could find a worse wagon.

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Disturbed comes to mind.
Of course he shopped that one too.

contrast that to both thor and goat people who have said "oh this game is hard to obtain reads" but aren't exhibiting the same paranoia and that is why they are both in the unsure mebbe scum pile. but thor is at least giving reads.

I never said it was hard to get reads.
I did say I didn't have a lot of scumreads - big difference.
Also, I usually save paranoia for closer to lylo, when I get paranoid and lynch my town reads.
I don't think I have ever looked paranoid Day 1-2.

Because that nets us what, exactly?

A scum lynch?

F)The continual downplaying of the Smurf he did to not make it look as scummy as it is.

F) Disagreeing that null tells are scum tells. Also, doesn't think he is scum and opposes wagon on himself, UNLIKE TOWN DO!

[Cephrir]

It's not going to be an Amrun vote either, not today and probably not for a few days thereafter.

I could wish she'd actually show up though.

[StupendousMan]

I was actually feeling really good about the ooba wagon. Can we get that back?

[Thor665]

Why is he scum?

[Goat on a Raft]

Hi guys, apologies for this head's inactivity over the weekend. It was sitewide.

Will aim to get caught up later today but it'll be in between birthday cake so, if this head gets distracted, that'll be why.

[Thor665]

I still have never figured out the point of those sorts of posts.

[quadz08]

they're mostly just there to make you sad, thor

[macmollie]

it is probably going to come down to a sd lynch in this day round and I think we have 1 more day. I will only vote him in order to have a lynch and I think it is funny how some peeps are still trying to paint him as scummy when clearly he is being lynched cos nobody knows what else to do. I don't think he is scummy this is just how sd plays and it isn't going to get any better in this particular game. he could probably benefit from some honest feedback.

anyhoo here are some notes:

people of interest

quadz - twice not once but

twice

he has zoomed in on a single points into posts while ignoring the progression and continuity of what lead to a conclusion i.e., a single point did get us there like I said before it is body of work and seeing if the posts come from scum motivation or a town 1. to me, this screams scum cos shows no real thought behind the "scumhunting" he is attempting to do but rather just tossing out a "oh that post is scum!" which is pretty surface and seems more like fake scum hunting to me rather than the real dealio.
he has done 1 thing that I liked tho and that was his small reach out in in post #1123. it isn't a "ack! ack! ack! I am town" post like he needs to convince us he is town it is more of "hey you dummy I see it from this POV and I'm town" post. so he is unsure.

goat people - pondscum. I think we have pretty much covered this.

amrun - I agree with what thor said about her and that is actually why I voted her. her reaction was disproportionate to what was going on and her relation to the situ involved. I don't like the fade at all.

p&j - where did they go. no really where. I usually see a strong entrance like that and then a vanishing act as sort of scummy.

displaced - pb was acting weird weird weird. displaced isn't doing a whole to make it better. I actually would like to talk to naut about this.

tierce - will probably leave tierce up to mac and naut.

thor is doing that thing again where he is saying what I am thinking and I wish I knew if it was related to alignment. having said that

UNVOTE: thor

@ thor

ooba said the same thing about not being paranoid early on. so...noted.

liking

naut
kanye
tammy (altho mac isn't quite sold yet)
syrlacious
alfred
cephrir
messiah

don't like unsure/ambiguous reads

zdenk is barely registering, garruck is staying in the background, shadoweh is stoking fires and I have no idea what agar is doing.

[macmollie]

actually scratch the part where I said I liked that post by quadz, he was talking about syrlacious's post not his own. he is back to pondscum

[Thor665]

@ thor

ooba said the same thing about not being paranoid early on. so...noted.

And I don't find him particularly scummy right now either - so it all seems to magically gel together.

Liking Ceph is messed up.
I'm confused that you don't have a take on Shadoweh.
I think AGar looks conditionally town, though he feels soft spoken...that said it's been probably over a year since we played last so I really am qualifying that 'soft' call with flashing neon letters, that said, when he does post it looks like hunting and purpose to me, so I'm not sure why he's a nullish take for you since you wouldn't have my opinion that he should be more aggressive - what's up there?

[Thor665]

they're mostly just there to make you sad, thor

It works.

Also, @AGar
I did that thing we hate ;(

[Nautilius]

Why do you think it is so real?

Before we go further, we are talking about this post, right? That was right after the point when Benmage calls you out for picking Casso with intent to receive miller, and yes, that was pretty ridiculous so I didn't have a problem with a strong reaction to it and I have no idea why you would.

It almost has already with Ceph and Kanye.
I grow on people, like a fungus.

Disturbed comes to mind.
Of course he shopped that one too.

displaced*
And yeah, he did do that.

[Nautilius]

Vote: SafetyDance

[Thor665]

Why do you think it is so real?

Before we go further, we are talking about this post, right? That was right after the point when Benmage calls you out for picking Casso with intent to receive miller, and yes, that was pretty ridiculous so I didn't have a problem with a strong reaction to it and I have no idea why you would.

I did have a strong reaction to it, so I don't have an issue with that insomuch as it was an issue between him and I.

I was just surprised at the sudden knight in white armor galloping down from the pavilion of placidness sounding the horns of war.
Literally everyone else in the game either ignored the brawl or (sadly) sheeped Benmage.
One person leapt to my support vociferously.

You don't think that deserves attention?

[ooba]

I hate this D1.

Unvote. Vote: SafetyDance.

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SafetyDance (10) - Alfred Borden, Syryana, Garruk Relentless, Cephrir, Tammy, Shadoweh, displaced, Tierce, Nautilius, ooba
With 24 alive it takes 13 votes to lynch

[Eddard Stark]

- Old Nan

Day 1, Vc 44

PrideandJoy (1) -

Amrun

ooba (5) -

quadz08, PrideandJoy, AGar, StupendousMan, Goat on a Raft

Thor665 (4) -

elleheathen, kanyeknowsbest, Benmage, SafetyDance

Zdenek (1) -

Messiah Complex

Amrun (2) -

Thor665, Zdenek

SafetyDance (10) -

Alfred Borden, Syryana, Garruk Relentless, Cephrir, Tammy, Shadoweh, displaced, Tierce, Nautilius, ooba

Not voting (1)-

macmollie

With 24 alive it takes 13 votes to lynch

• Deadline Date: 1st of October at 17:05 EDT
  
• Deadline Countdown: (expired on 2013-10-01 17:05:01)
  
• Thor and ooba are V/la.

Prodding Amrun.

[macmollie]

And I don't find him particularly scummy right now either - so it all seems to magically gel together.

I am fairly certain you feed my paranoia on

purpose

.

Liking Ceph is messed up.
I'm confused that you don't have a take on Shadoweh.
I think AGar looks conditionally town, though he feels soft spoken...that said it's been probably over a year since we played last so I really am qualifying that 'soft' call with flashing neon letters, that said, when he does post it looks like hunting and purpose to me, so I'm not sure why he's a nullish take for you since you wouldn't have my opinion that he should be more aggressive - what's up there?

1. there is nothing wrong with liking cephrir at this point except that you don't like him.
2. I am confused that you are confused that you don't know what ambiguous means. I will need more interaction/information to solidy a read.
3. there is a weird dynamic between you 2. mebbe you are missing I am not feeling all that great about you either even if we agree on some points. it almost looks like the classic 1 scum on 1 scum off classic play cos while you are both treating each other as town you are not working together in fact it vaguely looks like avoidance wrt your votes so far. there is only a faint discussion of reads sharing and yet agar is not doing anything with it, he is still trying to push the same tired agenda he has had since he entered the game.

what was

really

weird was when he said that once again I was avoiding an ooba lynch *as if that was scummy* when I was never scumreading ooba in the first place but yet he is not pursuing other players off of it (including you, it has been you that has been forcing the interaction) but instead hyper-focusing on us at the exclusion of all else except for his ooba push.

so what scumhunting are you actually seeing?

also this:

Also, @AGar
I did that thing we hate ;(

has beaten quadz for the scummiest post in the game

the dynamic honestly reads like pure scum theatre to me.

[Benmage]

I can't wait till we rush this lynch!! *awaits eagerly*

[Tierce]

Benmage: why Thor over SafetyDance?

[Tierce]

Heh. I'm pretty fine with Benmage regardless, but stumped at this whole 63 page thing as he sits on a wagon going nowhere. Doesn't seem practical.

[Benmage]

No more Benmage handholding.

WHy Safety Dance at all?

[PrideandJoy]

I hate this D1.

Unvote. Vote: SafetyDance.

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SafetyDance (10) - Alfred Borden, Syryana, Garruk Relentless, Cephrir, Tammy, Shadoweh, displaced, Tierce, Nautilius, ooba
With 24 alive it takes 13 votes to lynch

I don't even have to read the thread to know that this is a scum post.

The relief that someone town is miraculously getting lynched instead of their scum self is smattered harder on this post than the amount of goat cheese I apply to bagels. Which is a lot.

[PrideandJoy]

Shadoweh, I call on the power of friendship to make you change your vote Ooba. Or shall I regale you with a friendship speech?

[PrideandJoy]

That also goes for every other last one of you blokes