A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?


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Post Post #1625 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:54 pm

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In post 1602, SafetyDance wrote:
In post 1598, Tammy wrote:
In post 1596, SafetyDance wrote:
In post 1595, Tammy wrote:Or feel like answering any of the questions posed to you or did you think prod-dodging, right catching up with the thread, oh let's policy lynch is going to cut it for some reason?
There's
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You're going to have to be a bit more specific right now.

Okay. What did you think you were accomplishing with your introductory reads post and why did you make it?
I was planning my mislynches ahead.

This answer? Oh forgive me. I'm a fucking dumbass for getting irritated that you wouldn't answer my question. Dumb me.
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Post Post #1626 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:55 pm

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Whatever, I'm done. I have papers to grade and obviously safeftydance isn't going to actually engage in the game and is instead just going to troll or whatever he's doing.
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Post Post #1627 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:56 pm

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SD, you're getting lynched and need to full claim.

I find SD's responses to his wagon incredibly null. I guess I'd expect him to at least try to look like town if he was scum, but that's pretty weak.
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Post Post #1628 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:57 pm

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TAMMY! You're not suposed to be in the angry part of the relationship yet! Here have some leeches, they'll suck the negativity out.
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Post Post #1629 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:57 pm

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In post 1621, Shadoweh wrote:Look dood, apparently I'm the only person on this page that doesn't hate you, so you should listen to what I'm saying. The part where you're not claiming flavor or what your joat abilities are isn't going to change anyone's minds. Your powers don't get shown when you flip, so even if you're town and you get lynched, we really need to know what you've got. I don't think it looks townie when a person in a no-flips game is trying hard to avoid saying what his role does. :/
I'm dead. Who the fuck else is going to get run up? I'm not self-voting because 1) don't do it and 2) wagon analysis later on is the only positive thing you're going to get out this lynch. I've already explained why my reads are worthless. So flavor, you will get on flip, and abilities don't mean anything once dead. So stop role-fishing.
In post 1622, Tierce wrote:Sooo getting SafetyDance riled up isn't going to fix anything. Stop trying to push him like that.

Let's say I entertain this claim for a moment. Yes, you do need to claim your character name and your abilities. Partial claims are not going to fly under the pretext of "you're not lynching Thor-miller so you're not lynching me because double standards lol". I want a full claim out of you.

My home internet is down, so phone posting, slow, etc.
Let's say you entertain the idea that people believe it and someone else gets run up. Having 1 PR full-claim today, going into night, with scum now knowing extra flavor-info and all the actions that person can do...that is pro-town and helpful? I dun geddit.
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Post Post #1630 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:01 pm

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In post 1625, Tammy wrote:
In post 1602, SafetyDance wrote:
In post 1598, Tammy wrote:
In post 1596, SafetyDance wrote:
In post 1595, Tammy wrote:Or feel like answering any of the questions posed to you or did you think prod-dodging, right catching up with the thread, oh let's policy lynch is going to cut it for some reason?
There's
a lot
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You're going to have to be a bit more specific right now.

Okay. What did you think you were accomplishing with your introductory reads post and why did you make it?
I was planning my mislynches ahead.

This answer? Oh forgive me. I'm a fucking dumbass for getting irritated that you wouldn't answer my question. Dumb me.
Because I missed the [sarcasm] tags? Lmao, would have thought the post below would have been read by you but hey, you're ignoring whatevers convenient to you.
In post 1626, Tammy wrote:Whatever, I'm done. I have papers to grade and obviously safeftydance isn't going to actually engage in the game and is instead just going to troll or whatever he's doing.
Sorry, next time the day nearly ends I'll just ignore the game altogether. Since you know, meta. :roll:
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Post Post #1631 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:01 pm

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Okay, let me put it another way. If you are dead, and know you are about to die, do you want to:
A: Give the scum a free janitor so no one ever knows what you are
B: Tell what your role is so no one can claim to be you!

This isn't rolefishing. The only way you will not be lynched is if you claim something useful enough for people to keep you. If certain people were in this game your refusal would have them spamming 'HAMMER' every two seconds. CLAIM YOUR ROLE IF YOU WANT TO LIVE.
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Post Post #1632 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:02 pm

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Yes, full claiming is definitely more proTown than this cheeky claim dodging you're doing. It's a 24p game, likely multiball, likely with protection roles. Fullclaiming is better than getting lynched if you are Town, and getting lynched after fullclaiming as Town is far better than claimdodging, because this game is only partial reveal. If you are Town, stop being an idiot and claim.


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Post Post #1633 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:06 pm

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Gods I hope you flip scum because if this is your town game, or if this is what you think mafia is, I'm just going to scream.
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Post Post #1634 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:07 pm

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In post 1624, Tammy wrote:Look fool. There is no case in point. I asked you a question about your reads list a million years ago because I was trying to figure you out. You refused to actually answer the question so that I could figure anything out, and instead come out with some superior ass bs about blah blah blah stupid bullshit blah blah blah.

I don't know what slimer mafia is. Is that one instance where as town you used reads list? OMG do you mean you could have answered my fucking original question and told me that you changed your beliefs or you do it sometimes? Is that what slimer mafia means? Why can't you act like a fucking normal human being and just answer questions in way that isn't cheeky as a scum fuck petulant little child?

Because it seems pretty damn easy to me. And if you want to know why I'm yelling, it's because you're acting like a fucking jack ass.
Could you act any less like this game is all about you and just refuse to see any point I'm making?
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Post Post #1635 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:10 pm

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Tammy, please shut up. I know how you feel, I understand, trust me. You're not helping right now. Take a break.

SafetyDance--claim.
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Post Post #1636 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:10 pm

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In post 1631, Shadoweh wrote:Okay, let me put it another way. If you are dead, and know you are about to die, do you want to:
A: Give the scum a free janitor so no one ever knows what you are
B: Tell what your role is so no one can claim to be you!

This isn't rolefishing. The only way you will not be lynched is if you claim something useful enough for people to keep you. If certain people were in this game your refusal would have them spamming 'HAMMER' every two seconds. CLAIM YOUR ROLE IF YOU WANT TO LIVE.
I've just told you my role. I'm a JOAT. I said it was provable. What if I was a doctor? What point would it be claim then? I'm not going live. Not when Tammy's so high up on her horse.
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Post Post #1637 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:13 pm

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Fine. I get the ITYS after the game that this does not help town in anyway.

Meera Reed - (para) as a skilled hunter I have the following 1-shot abilities:
Snare/Roleblock
Track
Hunter Gatherer/Fruit Vendor

Passive QT with Jojen (if he's in the game). No one has posted in it.
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Post Post #1638 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:13 pm

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SD, just fucking full-claim for fucks sake.
Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!

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Post Post #1639 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:15 pm

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He just did. Easy.


Have you posted in the QT?

What is "para"?
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Post Post #1640 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:21 pm

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Day 1, Vc 47

PrideandJoy (1) -
Amrun
ooba (4) -
PrideandJoy, AGar, StupendousMan, Goat on a Raft
Thor665 (5) -
elleheathen, kanyeknowsbest, Benmage, SafetyDance, Zdenek
Amrun (1) -
Thor665
SafetyDance (12) -
Alfred Borden, Syryana, Garruk Relentless, Cephrir, Tammy, Shadoweh, displaced, Tierce, Nautilius, ooba, Messiah Complex, quadz08

Not voting (1)-
macmollie

With 24 alive it takes 13 votes to lynch
  • Deadline Date: 1st of October at 17:05 EDT
  • Deadline Countdown: (expired on 2013-10-01 17:05:01)
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Post Post #1641 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:22 pm

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In post 1633, Tammy wrote:Gods I hope you flip scum because if this is your town game, or if this is what you think mafia is, I'm just going to scream.
And I will rofl if this turns up to be faux-frustration. Because that's exactly want it looks like.
Tierce wrote:He just did. Easy.


Have you posted in the QT?

What is "para"?
I posted a question in the QT. Paraphrase. Didn't want to quote the role pm.
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Post Post #1642 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:25 pm

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In post 1639, Tierce wrote:He just did. Easy.
Didn't get a p-edit for whatever reason.
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Post Post #1643 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:29 pm

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It's a null claim. It's not the flavor he claimed, it's that Faranexus would very likely have such a role as either Town or scum and wouldn't likely be one of those roles that need severe adjustment after checking for alignment.

Why do you say your reads are worthless?
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Post Post #1644 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:31 pm

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I would say 'what kind of a mod would make a QT with no partner' but my immediate answer would be 'Faraday'. I supose the provable part is the fruit vendor part? I honestly don't think it's useful enough to be the scums all things considered.
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Post Post #1645 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:39 pm

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Author Mafia had a scum fruit vendor. It's only useful in the sense that it makes a role confirmable, but is no indication of alignment until we are down to one kill and we can guarantee he can't kill and act in the same Night + has no buddies, etc.

And Nexus recently had a game with a partnerless Neighbor.
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Post Post #1646 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:39 pm

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In post 1624, Tammy wrote:I don't know what
slimer mafia
is. Is that one instance where as town you used reads list? OMG do you mean you could have answered my fucking original question and told me that you changed your beliefs or you do it sometimes? Is that what slimer mafia means? Why can't you act like a fucking normal human being and just answer questions in way that isn't cheeky as a scum fuck petulant little child?
See, this is just openly admitting you're meta'ing based on one game. How the fuck is that a smart thing to do?

In Slimer:
- I was town
- I gave a list that stated my reads
- I expanded on it when I had time
- I had 2/3 scum in that grouping.

I am fine with my own scumhunting. I'm not denying I haven't been around this game. The only difference in that original list I put out and the one Natialus was doing is how people interpreted it. That's confirmation bias.

Maybe in terms you'd be able to understand:
In post 304, SafetyDance wrote:Just because I don't fit into whatever square-peg, modus operandi scumhunting you adhere to, doesn't mean I'm not doing any myself.
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Post Post #1647 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:45 pm

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In post 1643, Tierce wrote:It's a null claim. It's not the flavor he claimed, it's that Faranexus would very likely have such a role as either Town or scum and wouldn't likely be one of those roles that need severe adjustment after checking for alignment.
In post 1645, Tierce wrote:Author Mafia had a scum fruit vendor. It's only useful in the sense that it makes a role confirmable, but is no indication of alignment until we are down to one kill and we can guarantee he can't kill and act in the same Night + has no buddies, etc.

And Nexus recently had a game with a partnerless Neighbor.
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In post 1643, Tierce wrote:Why do you say your reads are worthless?
Because apparently I'm just setting up mislynches and not committing to anything. So what's the point?
In post 1644, Shadoweh wrote:I would say 'what kind of a mod would make a QT with no partner' but my immediate answer would be 'Faraday'. I supose the provable part is the fruit vendor part? I honestly don't think it's useful enough to be the scums all things considered.
Thus why I said it would have been provable.
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Post Post #1648 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:47 pm

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In post 1619, Tammy wrote:I don't care what you are. Good fucking riddance.
Ohhhhh Faradayyyyy


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Post Post #1649 (ISO) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:47 pm

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FYI, I have 15 minutes before I have to go ignore my family and then go to bed so I can ignore work tomorrow thus it's highly likely I will then be ignoring this thread during deadline.

If there's any point of changing my vote too Ooba/whomever, say so now.
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