A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?

[Eddard Stark]

Day 1, Vc 50

PrideandJoy (1) -

Amrun

ooba (5) -

PrideandJoy, AGar, StupendousMan, Goat on a Raft, Thor665

Thor665 (9) -

elleheathen, kanyeknowsbest, Benmage, SafetyDance, Zdenek, Alfred Borden, macmollie, Garruk Relentless, Tierce

SafetyDance (9) -

Syryana, Cephrir, Shadoweh, displaced, Nautilius, ooba, Messiah Complex, quadz08

Not voting (3)-

Tammy

With 24 alive it takes 13 votes to lynch

• Deadline Date: 1st of October at 17:05 EDT
  
• Deadline Countdown: (expired on 2013-10-01 17:05:01)
  
• Thor665 is V/la.

Sleep time, so don't expect a VC for a while.

[Shadoweh]

I'm scratching my head looking at this. Like.. no Faraday doesn't use regular millers but, there's usually a miller of some sort? Like the frey cop caught the masons and such?

[Tierce]

roles came before alignments

Incorrect. This is a wrongful assumption in many uPicks.

Characters came before alignment. Role design may have partially come before alignment, but it's even stated in the rules it may have suffered alterations afterwards. Go look at Vi's Maf.Xenologue for an example. There was a Town and a scum version of Soren in case our slot had rolled scum; Vi kept the idea and revealed it in the postgame.

So no, I don't think he's a Town miller in a Faraday game.

And that's a flavor miller, Shadoweh. Very different thing, Faraday likes flavor/vanilla/goon cops. Because that's the kind of role that doesn't get absolutes.

[Alfred Borden]

Well that was productive.
Sorry Messiah, but the most annoying / antitown things people do tend to be the things that make them town.

I'm not super confident in the Thor wagon, but at least the company is good? When did we last hear from Elleheathen?
Elleheathen looks good.

Ooba's 1565 did suck pretty hard

I prefer to avoid lynching people with postcount > 100 D1.

Thor is actually an okay lynch though!

[Shadoweh]

Well you're voting him so I would hope you think so! I'm going to sleep and won't be back likely, but I did say something about choo choo trains. I really hope someone comes up with something better then he miller'd though cause he'll probably have other role powers to go with it?

##Vote: Thor

honk honk

[Thor665]

I

finally

managed to go through them. Thanks anyway, Tammy.


Yeah, Faraday doesn't use millers in the MS meta. Why? Because normal cops are boring stuff.

So basically either your research is bad, or you are a liar, because Tammy has claimed to be in a faraday uPick with a scumMiller.
And said so in this game.

Okay, so now you are clarifying the stance to he doesn't have "normal" Millers.
...um, that's a pretty bad reason to vote me then.
Like, seriously.

[Thor665]

elleheathen, kanyeknowsbest, Benmage, SafetyDance, Zdenek, Alfred Borden, macmollie, Garruk Relentless, Tierce, Shadoweh

So there are probably about 3 scum in this mix.
I will rule out the ones I personally think are town.

kanyeknowsbest, Benmage, Zdenek, Garruk Relentless, Tierce

Once I flip, if Vigs and whatnot could kind of focus on this group.
I give *slight* clearing to Benny because I've actually got some belief that he would be this terrible as town with a weird tunnel and, in his defense, as terrible as it is he's literally the only person voting me who has bothered to really try to make a case of it - well, Elle vaguely tried, so one of two I suppose, if you squint.

Kanye is a pain to read for me, but he has flopped around on his attitude towards me repeatedly today, and the current push came from nowhere.
Zdenek is a forerunner in the lynch for being a Miller crowd, and has done nothing to expand on that, and also could be the early scum push and make a lot of sense.
Garruk feels very taped on, I dunno, I couldn't really describe his read on much of anything and he seems to be voting repeatedly with 'need a lynch' as the only reasoning, and even seemed to semi-distance from voting me even as he got on.
Tierce tried to justify her entrance (And was called on it by Shadoweh...which was nice except that he then sheeped...I dunno, Shadoweh felt town up to this point, I'm leaving him in my townish pile) But Tierce was like 'They don't do Millers! Lynch Thor!...oh, well, okay, they do Millers, but not *normal* Millers...lynch Thor!"
Newsflash - probably no one is a clear "normal" in such an obviously theme heavy game, and that she has trampled on reality twice to justify the vote makes her look really bad.

I'd like to see Tierce or Zdenek flipped sooner rather than later pl0x.
For the record, Vig, Displaced is still an *immensely* good shot.
Just saying.

[Thor665]

Also, this is my first time as a Miller ever - and I hate you all.
You've actually taught me that it would have been more pro-town to *not* claim Miller Day 1.

[Thor665]

Because, if anyone thinks I would have been lynched sans Milelr claim (besides Benmage) they are as derpy as Benmage.

[Thor665]

That said, this game will be *awesome* for me if I ever do try a scum miller gambit, even if I don't claim Day 1, trololololol.

[Amrun]

Back from my weekend etc, and I have so much to catch up on here. I got sick and fell asleep on friday on my brief window to catch up here. Lame. Sorry.

[kanyeknowsbest]

yeah i agree about tierces jump. it is pretty disgusting.

[Amrun]

Oh, shit, was that a hammer?

it's unfortunate because I did not want to lynch thor, but it's fortunate because I have time to catch u properly and non-rushing. <3

[kanyeknowsbest]

guses what amrun you have 10 hours to catchup before deadline hits. get crackin m8

[kanyeknowsbest]

unless thor is triple hated then no thats not a hammer.

[kanyeknowsbest]

why dont you want to lynch thor amrun, whos your alternative?

[Amrun]

I had a townread on Thor, and I wanted to lynch PnJ. That said, my reads are outdated as I have so much material to catch up on.

[Amrun]

And if I had a townread on Thor before, I have a super townread on him now from his posts this page. Whee!

[kanyeknowsbest]

can you explain your thor townread

[Amrun]

Tone + cockiness. He can be cocky as any alignment, but I just get dem ~good vibes~ from him this game. This page, for example, is very indignant in a way I find townish.

[StupendousMan]

I think Thor and SD are town. Thor is a stronger townread than SD, though. So I would only vote SD at deadline, but I still like the ooba wagon. Thor, I believe you asked me why, and the answer to that is too many of ooba's posts are defending himself or making weak cases. Pretty much what AGar said a while back.

UNVOTE: I still think its a good wagon though. If were going to policy lynch someone for a miller claim, I don't know why were all no can't policy kynch someone who's refusing to actually play the game and decides to be cheeky and dodgy when he does show up.

Why did you unvote if you still think it's a good wagon? We don't have that much time left...

[kanyeknowsbest]

anyone feel alright about a last minute swing onto garruk?

[kanyeknowsbest]

i think thatd be cool.

[Amrun]

Well, shit, my vote needs to be productive.

VOTE: ooba

Preferable vote out of leading wagons.

[kanyeknowsbest]

vote garrukc