Newbie 1436 ~ Game Over

[fferyllt]

What's your conclusion about GM, Ffery? Yeah, I skimmed it all. First part you list what's town about her, and then the second part you list what's bothering you. What do you want me to comment on, specifically?

I'm thinking scum.

I want to see her response to the assorted walls and I want to see Cabd's promised effort n stuff before putting my vote back down.

[Bert]

Bert, yours wasn't really a "case" persay.

Did I say I have a case? No!

I do have observations and gut feelings. Now, why are you voting Cabd? Don't you avoid my question like that please <3

What I want to know is "why"

"because he's scum" does NOT work here, okay? I am reaching out to you, if it isn't super duper obvious already

[Bert]

Lmfao, he knows I hate cases and asks for one.

I said earlier TSO and Sakura were scum and now "oh yeah they're scum" yet you apparently don't have a townread on me when I thought them before you did. I said Agi was town before you did.

Seemslegit

You're trying to come up with reasons to feed the town paranoia about me (NS you've been lurking/inactive in your recent games, you scum bro?)

This whole- "You've seen my scumgame" bit is a lie. You've told me that you always change how you play your scumgame after every finished game. So, that is ultimately null and the fact you're trying to use that to make me townread you is moronic.

You had that joking/buddy attempt on ffery when you came in- why? Because she knows you best of all the players and poses the biggest threat.

OK, I see it. THANKS! <333333

[T S O]

Bert, I'm too nice? Since when have I been mean? >_>

PEDIT: LIKE 6 POSTS, STOP POSTING FOR 5 SECS

[T S O]

Bert, who exactly do you think is scum? I'm not getting it from your stances, so spell it out.

[Bert]

Bert, I'm too nice? Since when have I been mean? >_>

PEDIT: LIKE 6 POSTS, STOP POSTING FOR 5 SECS

START POSTING FOR LIKE 5 SECS <3

You're more err... passive-aggressive-defensive from what I remember (that's the vibe).

But hey, I'm not voting you, so be happy and thank you for checking in

Bert, who exactly do you think is scum? I'm not getting it from your stances, so spell it out.

now please comment on all the updates since you were gone

Thanks in advance!!! <333333333

Oh, and my reads are below - since you obviously haven't caught up! BAD TSO BAD THATS BAD

Spoiler:

So you no longer think Cabd is scum?

Why do you think GM is scum? Is it for the same reasons I pointed out last week?

What do you actually think of me defending Cabd and TSO?

GM hasn't done anything I find townie, and her play seems rather passive tbh. Not really pushing anything new, not giving input that seems useful. She's just....there. You know what I mean?

Look, you're gonna have to work with me this game. I *think* you're town, with your knee-jerk reactions and paranoia and pseudo-meltdowns. My lynch just ain't happening, with everyone here except agi knowing my scumgame and towngame quite well, for the most part (Cabd, ffery, notscience in particular). I can play however Bert-like I want here and not have to be scared of being misunderstood. Heck, even TSO has been scum with me twice out of six scumgames.

And as for my GM vote, I decided hey, I'm gonna lead a wagon and just not feel like I came in and just sheeped a townread for the heck of it. Because that means I'm being easily manipulated, and I won't have that this game, at least not until I have a better read on everyone. Even notscience's style can be faked, so I'm going to look into everything that my limited skimming self can look into. But yes, notscience I *think* is town, but it's not quite as strong as my townread on you. And as I said, I'm in THREE games so expect this game to get lots of focus from me and I will town it up like never before.

If you want my thought process about Cabd, it's this: I woke up with it this morning. I was telling myself, "Bert, don't you think it's awfully convenient that Cabd is playing the exact same way he did in Mismatched, almost to a fault, as well as Perpetual MYLO?" As I said, I can't read Cabd worth anything, and Ffery hasn't pronounced a Cabd scumread. So far, it's conjecture along with two people yelling at me to vote Cabd. If Ffery really gets in a groove and says "Bert, Cabd is screaming scum at the top of his lungs," then I will sheep her if I feel she's town.

TOWNREADS:

Pretty Town <Ffery, Sakura, notscience>

seems town: <agi> - that playstyle will probably look the same regardless of alignment, but I have to say, coming into the game last night and seeing him/her post "here's a post full of nothing because I've got nothing" screams pretty town to me

confused about my read: <TSO, Cabd>

Leaning Scum: <GM, Kaze> Some gut, but also GM not doing anything townie-looking ANYWHERE....and that god-awful TSO switch that really made no sense in terms of rhythm and naturalness and in the flow of the game, it did not FEEL right at all. More like jumping onto a wagon for the sake of it. Kaze is a feeling thing, his/her posts coming in just felt a bit empty. I don't feel the Kaze town-PASSION I remember feeling in 219, which I interpreted as scum in that game. I feel more cautiousness, where the passion isn't being mimicked.

That is where I stand.

[notscience]

notsci probably moving up to T depending on re-read

Also, notsci is town.

Convince me?

He's also taking nice shots like "oh being wrong does not a scum make" and etc

And he's had like no other content since then

[Bert]

^OK, ns, now get out of your hidey hole 100% now and comment about people other than cabd

<3

[Bert]

@ns - So...nothing new, then? No recent developments on your reads? You're not stubbornly riding your vote now, are you?

[Bert]

notscience, your read on Cabd is the easiest for you to write if you're scum - as that's who you have tunneled for pretty much the majority of the time I've been here

so now I want to see you write some other stuff about everyone else and why you suspect them, etc., etc.

none of this requires much time if you consolidate! <3 Is that too much to ask?

[Sakura Hana]

those 2 posts happened within 5 minutes @ns you're reaching.

[notscience]

Have I not been showing development in my Sakura read?

TSO is probably trying to hardbus his scumbuddy, thus why he's so insistent on him being the shepherd to the flock.

Ffery is probs town because gut

I don't think GM is scum because she was similar in 1402

I don't think you're scum because gut

Agi is town because of how he's played (and I was still first to call that)

Kaze is null because I can't read him for shit

PEDIT

So, me looking through

all

his content after my last post and pointing that out means I'm reaching?

[Bert]

Have I not been showing development in my Sakura read?

You may have and I may not have noticed, but regardless you gotta talk to me like I'm a 5 year old child that needs a lotta help in school and math homework

And yay your reads <3 This is great for future reference, you da man! <333333

[Bert]

Have I not been showing development in my Sakura read?

TSO is probably trying to hardbus his scumbuddy, thus why he's so insistent on him being the shepherd to the flock.

OK, so you think it's TSO-Cabd or TSO-Sakura.

And you're voting Cabd. I see. Hmm....

[Kazekirimaru]

I feel less awkward now that I know I'm not the only male to frequently use <3's.

Anyhow, I re-read 1398 for some insight on TSO. He is a lot more vitriolic in that game than this one. Kinda solidifies my read. Yet the WAGON STILL BOTHERS ME fuck

I really like Ffery's case against GM but I'm not ready to accept scum GM yet. idk. Feels wrong.

[Kazekirimaru]

ns tunneling is town-ns but ns himself said in the last newbie game we shared that he was in the process of changing his meta so I am trying not to take too much stock in such things.

[Bert]

Anyhow, I re-read 1398 for some insight on TSO. He is a lot more vitriolic in that game than this one. Kinda solidifies my read. Yet the WAGON STILL BOTHERS ME fuck

That's interesting, I'm not great at meta-diving or recalling the past correctly (should ask Ffery about 1415 where I meta'd her and got all the wrong impressions - that's why I rarely do any in-depth skimming metadiving...I even avoid skimming old games sometimes hahaha).

Anyways, which game do you speak of? I must have it backwards then with regard to 1462

[T S O]

I have a reputation as an absolute penis, I think.

NS do you want to give some reasoning to how I'm hardbussing and why?

brb catching up.

pedit: newbie 1398, I replaced in but good play from JasonWazza got scum Kaze lynched in LyLo. I didn't know how to play Tracker.

[Bert]

ns tunneling is town-ns but ns himself said in the last newbie game we shared that he was in the process of changing his meta so I am trying not to take too much stock in such things.

Good point about meta-dodging there that you just mentioned.

That's why it's hard to tell about Cabd, as he changes it up frequently too. It does bother me that he made that comment to NS about "you've seen me as town, you should know I'm town here." That gave me pause for a second there, for sure. A long long second.

[notscience]

How- voting Cabd without actively pushing people to vote him

Why- towncred

PEDIT

SEE

[Kazekirimaru]

Psychobabble time! I really hate it when people excessively add "I see" and "hmm" to the end of posts. It's like you're trying too hard to seem like you're really thinking on it. Trying to make sure town knows your gears are turning, cause scum doesn't need to scumhunt too hard, amirite? Bert, you're giving me weird feels.

PEDIT: Newbie 1398.

PEDIT2: Yeah that one

PEDIT3: wait, YOURE RIGHT. He did say that! And yet he's trying to meta-change. So that makes NO SENSE!

@ns - address this. now.

[Kazekirimaru]

HOLY FUCK 4x post review my god

[notscience]

Kaze the tunneling isn't what I'm fixing

[Kazekirimaru]

So you're being selective. How convenient.

[Kazekirimaru]

"hey guize im changing ALL MY SHIT get meta'd at"

"except that. that means nothing"