Newbie 1436 ~ Game Over

[Sakura Hana]

@TSO: I think my vote speaks for itself.

[notscience]

I have gone back and forth between the two.

PEdit-

Bring it the fuck on TSO.

[Bert]

Sakura-Cabd team.

Game nailed.

How did you nail them, and why do you feel that this team is scum?

I was thinking along the lines of with a Cabd-you scumteam, anything not him would be good.#

NS, I'll talk to you tomorrow.

And why tomorrow, not today? Your reads stagnated, much like GM's.

[notscience]

why do you feel that this team is scum?

Because he's attempting to pass off him "getting a scumread" as him actually doing shit

[fferyllt]

Ffery, what do you think of Kaze? You said she made a good point about GM's carelessness probably being more likely to be coming from town. Other than that, I can't find you having commented about that slot in the last couple of days.

I recently did a meta dive on Kaze. His game has been evolving pretty quickly. His first game at MS was a scum game. All his games since then have been town. His tone has gotten lighter and less formal with every game. The stuff that has stayed the same about his town games is reasoned stances and observations. I should go back and look at some of those games, though. IIRC he's been mislynched 2-3 times. I didn't pay attention to why he was mislynched. Was more interested in looking for differences in tone and expressiveness by alignment.

[Bert]

Yeah, evolving players are difficult to look into for me. I did just skim my game with him where he got lynched in 7 pages. It was more of a quicklynch than anything - Guyett didn't like his "reactions after being voted," BRO called him out for a "terrible vote on himself," and that was that... I'm guilty of being the impulsive hammerer.

[agi102]

Bert I'm telling you, it's a TSO/Cabd scumteam.

Double bus?
I WON'T BELIEVE IT
THIS ISN'T HAPPENING

[notscience]

Exactly my point Agi.

Cabd loves to take what the assumed-meta of a role is and invert the fuck out of it.

[Bert]

Hey ns, I've been thinking about stuff the last 10 minutes, and I'm considering about lynching Cabd with you.

I need some reactions from GM first, before I make my final conclusion. But I think that's potentially where I'm headed. *shrug*

GM

, I want to tell me your reads on everyone, EVERYONE, including me. Try to elaborate why. You want to survive? Then give some reads and town it up if you're town.

TOWN
notscience
agi102
Ffery
Sakura
TSO/Kaze

Cabd/GM
SCUM

[Sakura Hana]

@Agi: Hey i've crossbused as scum before and it worked.

[Bert]

EBWOP: I had to put all the feelings and confusion coming from Cabd's meta to look objectively about my thoughts, without that kind of bias. That's how I sorted my thoughts in order to see what lynch(es) I'd be content with.

[Bert]

Double bus?
I WON'T BELIEVE IT
THIS ISN'T HAPPENING

Are you caught up??? What you can do to prevent being a mislynch down the line if you're town is...tell us what else you're thinking about anyone - that would be a great start, at least I think it would be personally <3

You have your vote, but you're not using it...do you plan to? why or why not?

[agi102]

Sure I'm caught up

I don't have special thoughts about anyone

I'd use my vote if I did

[Malakittens]

Vote Count 1.12

With 9 alive it's 5 votes to lynch.

Voting for:

*Cabd - T S O, notscience [2]
*Fferyllt -
*Bert -
*Kazekirimaru -
*agi102 -
*Sakura Hana -
*T S O - Cabd, Kazekirimaru, goodmorning [3]
*notscience -
*goodmorning - Bert, Sakura Hana [2]

Not voting: agi102, Fferyllt [2]

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2013-10-04 23:50:00)

Mod Notes:

~VC updated.~

[notscience]

<3 Mala

[fferyllt]

@Mala, agi102 unvoted TSO

Hope things calm down for you soon!

[notscience]

Can we please lynch scumCabd?

[Kazekirimaru]

It's what I call the "intimidation factor." Why is Cabd resorting to this, and is it alignment-indicative or a tell in any way, shape, or form? Surely, this looks like it's supposed to arouse fear in the other and persuade someone to back down from attacking him?

Why not talk it out, or at least be more reachable for everyone

Tell me what you think, please?

Looks awkward, yes. Belligerent. Not sure if alignment-indicative, though.

notscience, please. let's try to be useful.

as of now, all you've done is tunnel my scumread and try to take credit for it. which is great, but makes you pretty useless all the same.

lol. Do you always throw out insults when you feel like people are on to you?

@Bert - Why do you continue to call me a she? ._.

Unvote

This wagon. I don't like it anymore. Bad feels.

My next choice would be Cabd, but TSO and ns are on it and I don't know what to make of that. I haven't liked ns lately. Perhaps I'm overthinking it. Perhaps not.

Meh. Vote floats.

[Kazekirimaru]

Bert, you're pretty much my only solid townread. Why do you think ns is town?

[Cabd]

Deliberations began today, one more half day and then I'm a free man.

I'll try to give this thread time tonight, but court>schoolwork>sleep>mafia>etc etc

[Kazekirimaru]

Sure I'm caught up

I don't have special thoughts about anyone

I'd use my vote if I did

Please try harder.

I'd like more minds working against scum please.

[Bert]

Bert, you're pretty much my only solid townread. Why do you think ns is town?

It all boils down to him playing like he usually does as town - from what I've seen of him in previous games.

He may be mimicking his town "crazy" vibe, who knows - I don't know how good he is at doing that...because in the scumgame he was in where I was town, he wasn't this tunnely and boisterous and nonsensical. Someone earlier in this game said that he has mentioned that he would like to meta-dodge...

I've read several people here wrong before in the past (Ffery, Sakura, notscience, in particular), so if you think ns is likely scum, please tell me why and I'll definitely consider what you're saying

Sorry, I got the gender wrong several times in this game. You're a "he." Err.. I'm having trouble deciding on who I want going down today as well. The scumspect pool is voting each other, pretty much, so wagon analysis isn't doing me any good - it makes me paranoid, if anything.

[Kazekirimaru]

I don't think he's scum exactly. I just don't really find him town this game and the thing about "you should be able to tell im town/im trying to change my meta" really made me wonder.

Fact of the matter is, I'm not sure if I'm comfortable lynching Cabd if ns is leading the charge. But you might be, and I'm reading you as town. This is all rather confusing. I may be leaning a bit too much on town reads this game, but I feel overwhelmed with all the meta-ing and the fact that you all know eachother so well.

[Bert]

- I usually sheep my strongest townread, but yeah...it can get me in trouble if the townread is just playing scum extremely well

- I really just skim and am not capable of actually reading thoroughly and giving analysis, so gut reads and a little logic here and there are all I can give. Why are you reading me as town? I'm playing this freely here because almost everyone knows me...so I don't feel obligated to take a more conservative approach. Otherwise, I might be in danger of being lynched easily/quickly.

- Are you comfortable voting

anybody

? What I worry about is how notscience's town playstyle is transferable to his scumplay, so I don't know how good I'd be at spotting it.

- Yeah, most people here know each other well. I've seen both scum/towngames of at least half the players here and have been in past games with everyone except agi102 who is a newbie...and I'm probably the newest player of the bunch - aside from you and agi102.

[Bert]

So Kaze, why do you think you've gotten lynched a bit in past games?

And if not for wagon analysis, and say everyone had a clean slate in terms of voting, you would be voting TSO (priority 1) or Cabd (priority 2)?