Newbie 1433 - Game Over

[Mr_Ree]

The fact that you three weren't on the 2Pac wagon is evidence in your favor, but it's weak evidence. We were headed for a lynch on 2Pac or a no-lynch, and either one would have served scum purposes. I don't know Skelda's alignment, but I know mine, and you get exactly zero credit in my eyes for voting me over 2Pac, Mr. Ree.

I really can't believe they don't think you are town.

What about that post screams town to you? Does it not go against the Fuzzy/Ran team you are pushing for?

[Mr_Ree]

The other thing is, you two seem the most worried about convincing people you will flip town. I don't remember having to say i will flip town even once.

Saying you are ttown over and over doesnt make it true. Your actions should speak for themselves. Yours just happen to say something different.

Not one person has made a solid town case based on your actions. I ask again, why should I read either of you as town?

[Nominull]

While I appreciate you calling me God, Ree works just fine too.

I was referring to Fuzzy. Was he not your secondary scum read?

Yeah, but I don't see what about what I said contradicts that so I figured maybe you meant somebody else and were confused.

[Nominull]

also Fuzzy had not been directly mentioned in the conversation for quite some time, so I don't think you were licensed to use a pronoun to refer to him.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

wait Ree .....are you calling me out as scum?? If so what case do you have against me?

[SafetyDance]

Votecount 2.2

Skelda (2):

SatanHellYeah, Ranawey

Nominull (1):

Mr_Ree

Ranawey (1):

Skelda

Mr_Ree (1):

Nominull

Regfan (1):

TheFuzzylogic99

Not voting

: Regfan

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-10-12 12:00:00). With 7 players, it's 4 to lynch.

Regfan was prodded a while back. He has about ~12hours to pick up his PM I think, if he doesn't I'll replace him.

[Mr_Ree]

also Fuzzy had not been directly mentioned in the conversation for quite some time, so I don't think you were licensed to use a pronoun to refer to him.

I'll give you a hint. Based on evidence, Satan and I are the two worst possible votes for refusing and arguing Against the 2package wagon.

That metric is too easy for scum to manipulate. By that metric Fuzzy is less suspicious than either of you, since he was arguing against it too, but he was around to drop the hammer rather than let us no-lynch.

The fact that you three weren't on the 2Pac wagon is evidence in your favor, but it's weak evidence. We were headed for a lynch on 2Pac or a no-lynch, and either one would have served scum purposes. I don't know Skelda's alignment, but I know mine, and you get exactly zero credit in my eyes for voting me over 2Pac, Mr. Ree.

Perhaps I should have said Fuzzy but I thought it was implied.

Does this not contradict your secondary scum read on Fuzzy? It really sounds like a townpoint in his favor...

[Mr_Ree]

wait Ree .....are you calling me out as scum?? If so what case do you have against me?

What? I said Non is making you sound town while simultaneously calling you scum. It sounds conflicted.

Should I be calling you scum? I hate being wrong.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

@Ree- oh ok ...I did not understand what you were saying so I had to ask.

[Mr_Ree]

Regfan seems too embarrassed to post after being wrong. He could always redeem himself by Sheeping me but If it actually goes to replacement, He doesn't deserve those scummies awards.

@Safetydance: see about getting Bob back before searching for other replacements. If not, Pm SerraPaladin.

[Nominull]

Does this not contradict your secondary scum read on Fuzzy? It really sounds like a townpoint in his favor...

I said as much, didn't I? It's evidence, but weak evidence. Not enough to override the other concerns.

[Mr_Ree]

What exactly are these concerns you speak of?

[Nominull]

Regfan seems too embarrassed to post after being wrong. He could always redeem himself by Sheeping me but If it actually goes to replacement, He doesn't deserve those scummies awards.

Yeah, I'm hugely disappointed in him. (Well, I'd hope he'd play as an independent voice of reason rather than sheeping deceiver scum, but you know.)

[Nominull]

What exactly are these concerns you speak of?

*Don't like how reluctant fuzzy was to cast the lynching vote - the paranoia about getting held accountable for the lynch seems much more from a newb-scum than a newb-town perspective.

He's been ginger about taking positions and paranoid about being suspected all game, and that's a scumtell, especially in new players who haven't yet learned that the scumminess of their actions is not nearly as apparent to people who aren't them.

[Nominull]

And could you address the lie you told about his paranoia leading up to the hammer, Mr. Ree? I've asked you a couple times, and you just keep ignoring me.

[Skelda]

The fact that you three weren't on the 2Pac wagon is evidence in your favor, but it's weak evidence. We were headed for a lynch on 2Pac or a no-lynch, and either one would have served scum purposes. I don't know Skelda's alignment, but I know mine, and you get exactly zero credit in my eyes for voting me over 2Pac, Mr. Ree.

I really can't believe they don't think you are town.

What about that post screams town to you? Does it not go against the Fuzzy/Ran team you are pushing for?

1. He isn't putting up with your nonsense.
2. He is forming reads and sticking to them.
3. He recognizes that we can't go through this game feeling guilty, and apologizing for the 2Pac lynch. He recognizes that, compared to no-lynching, it was preferable.

[Skelda]

Also, I'm going to...

VOTE: Fuzzy. I feel more confident about him being scum than Ran. I think Fuzzy could be scum with Ree or Satan as well as Ran, although a Fuzzy-Ran team is still most likely.

[Mr_Ree]

I've seen that hundreds of times from new players. Afraid of being wrong, afraid of being manipulated, etc. That's what it sounded like to me. There was no lie, just my interpretation. To me he sounds town.

Calling it a lie just looks bad on you. It makes it seem like you are trying to turn nothing into something suspicious. How does that benefit the town?

Pedit my nonsense? Says the newbie to the IC...

He can't justify his reads. He can't justify why He should be called town.

Fuzzy could be partners with anyone then? You are trying to widen the net rather than pin this down. That equates to keeping options open. Right now, we should be trying to eliminate townreads from the Lynch pool, not toss more people in.

Satan - Town
Fuzzy - Town
RAN - town

Reg - Null

Skelda - scum
NOM - SCUM

Easy peezy. Who are your townreads Skelda?

[Mr_Ree]

Actually... why don't you go ahead and claim.

unvote, Vote Skelda

[Mr_Ree]

I guess it takes time to come up with a good fake claim...

[Nominull]

I guess it takes time to come up with a good fake claim...

You're not very good at this game.

[Mr_Ree]

My win ratio begs to differ. It's one of the highest on site.

[Nominull]

My win ratio begs to differ. It's one of the highest on site.

How much of that comes from scum games where you browbeat people into going along with your nonsense?

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I really wanted a Reg lynch. He seems the most scummy. I think that Skelda is a good second choice.
Saying that I am posting my intention to lynch.

So Skelda this is the time to claim if you feel the need.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I really wanted a Reg lynch. He seems the most scummy. I think that Skelda is a good second choice.
Saying that I am posting my intention to lynch.

So Skelda this is the time to claim if you feel the need.