Newbie 1433 - Game Over

[Nominull]

For goodness sake guys let's not drop a lynch before Regfan's replacement even shows up.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Oh and to make it clear.... I doing this bc I feel Skelda is scum. I am not doing it bc I feel tricked , manipulated or put in a must lynch situration like I was during the 2Pac lynch.
lets lynch this scum and win the game on day 3 .

[Nominull]

VOTE: Ranawey

Once we get to LYLO it will be too late to pressure this lurker into contributing.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Lylo???

[Nominull]

I feel like Reg's disappearance is on purpose. Why'd he say anything if we all are here bashing at each others and expecting him to come? It's easier just to lurk, and we are clearly implying that we won't do nothing definitive until he appears. We are wasting time because of him, and he knows it.

Meanwhile he promised us reads half a week ago and they haven't come forth. His reasoning for getting on the 2Pac wagon was a little tortured too...

Mr. Ree, Ranawey, Skelda, Satan, Fuzzy, Regfan's Replacement. Two of these six are scum. And there's a bad tendency to ignore the quiet ones, because they're less salient. I don't know why Mr. Ree gives Ranawey a townread. Does he see some content I'm missing? The most contentful post of Ranawey's AFAICT was his justification for getting on the 2Pac wagon, which doesn't really look townie.

[Nominull]

Lylo???

LYLO is a term for the position where there is only one more town than scum and so an incorrect lynch or a failure to lynch will lose the game. If we lynch Skelda and he comes up town we will be in LYLO tomorrow.

[SafetyDance]

Votecount 2.3

Skelda (3):

SatanHellYeah, Ranawey, Mr_Ree

Ranawey (1):

Nominull

Regfan (1):

TheFuzzylogic99

TheFuzzylogic99 (1):

Skelda

Not voting

: Regfan

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-10-12 12:00:00). With 7 players, it's 4 to lynch.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Nom suppose I go along with you and wait for Regfan replacement ...... how long do you think I should wait before you think a Skelda lynch is acceptable? Also you think Skelda is town can you explain why .

[TheFuzzylogic99]

or are you just mainly worried about LYLO??

[Mr_Ree]

My win ratio begs to differ. It's one of the highest on site.

How much of that comes from scum games where you browbeat people into going along with your nonsense?

My scum ratio is wayyy lower than my town win ratio. I really suck as scum. It's hard to fake reads you don't believe in. Fortunately, my town win ratio is over 80%.

[Mr_Ree]

Nom is just fear mongering. Trying to scare you so you second guess yourself.

I agree that waiting for a replacement is in our best interest though.

[Nominull]

Nom suppose I go along with you and wait for Regfan replacement ...... how long do you think I should wait before you think a Skelda lynch is acceptable? Also you think Skelda is town can you explain why .

It doesn't usually take too long to fill a replacement slot. We've got almost ten days still, we can afford to wait.

I think Skelda's town because 4 out of the 6 of you are town so that's the way to bet in the absence of anything compelling. He's sort of in the middle of my reads list. Also, I'm not on the wagon, and any successful wagon needs one of my vote, a scum vote, or every other townie's vote. Easier to get one of the latter two if the target is town.

Let me ask the question in reverse: why do

you

think he's scum? You go from saying "besides Skelda being stubborn and not admitting killing 2pac was a mistake what else make you think he is lynch worthy? Honestly I dont see much besides that issue" to saying "I really wanted a Reg lynch. He seems the most scummy. I think that Skelda is a good second choice." Do you mind explaining the basis for this shift in attitude?

[Nominull]

Nom is just fear mongering. Trying to scare you so you second guess yourself.

I agree that waiting for a replacement is in our best interest though.

I'm considering the worst case scenario. If we lynch Skelda he could very well flip town, and then we'd be going into LYLO with very little information about Ranawey. I'd like him to post more meaty content or die, so that that doesn't happen.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

There is no shift in opinion.....

I have believed with all my guts that Reg is scum . While it turned out that he did not attack me on day 2 as I thought he would , he did act scummy. He blatantly called me out as scum than backed off the comment when realize that calling me scum risked me not hammering 2Pac. He did the same thing with Satan. He basically contradicted himself to ensure a lynch. I find that scummy. Not only that but he whined ,complain and threw fits about those who didnt agree with him in order to pressure them into voting his way. I find that really scummy.

I also found Skelda scummy as well. Since I could not get my main scum choice I thought the best option was to go with my second and hope to get Reg on Day 3...... What you call it a compromise lynch I believe.

I admit that pretty much my case against Skelda.

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Since We agree we should wait , I will hold off my lynch of Skelda till Reg replacement comes. We still have to wait till Reg's twelve hours is up. So it might be a day or two before he is replaced I think... I am just concern in being placed in a position to hammer again when i do not want to like the 2pac lynch. i want to hammer someone who i think is truly guilty .Sorry I just felt like I was placed in a no win situation.





I just consider that Ran got busy with work since he posted fairly regular until he said he had hit a busy time at work. Maybe it is wrong for me to assume this but it seems somewhat logical.

[Nominull]

After thinking about it a little more, if Skelda's scum, that means either Regfan is his partner (seems unlikely), or his partner is bussing him (doesn't seem necessary at this point). I'd rather go for the Mr. Ree-Fuzzy-Ranawey triad.

[Nominull]

There is no shift in opinion.....

I have believed with all my guts that Reg is scum . While it turned out that he did not attack me on day 2 as I thought he would , he did act scummy. He blatantly called me out as scum than backed off the comment when realize that calling me scum risked me not hammering 2Pac. He did the same thing with Satan. He basically contradicted himself to ensure a lynch. I find that scummy. Not only that but he whined ,complain and threw fits about those who didnt agree with him in order to pressure them into voting his way. I find that really scummy.

I also found Skelda scummy as well. Since I could not get my main scum choice I thought the best option was to go with my second and hope to get Reg on Day 3...... What you call it a compromise lynch I believe.

I admit that pretty much my case against Skelda.

Why did you find Skelda scummy, though? That's not an explanation. The shift in opinion is plain as day - in 733 you are defending him, in 773 you have him as your second-highest scumread. There's nothing wrong with changing your mind,

contra

Mr. Ree, but you should ideally have some reason, or at least not deny that it happened.

A compromise lynch is not something you do when it's only been a few days since the day began, anyway.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Well if I actually read my posts on day one I would of remember saying that. Doh..... I should say that I believed from the beginning of day two he was scummy. So yes i changed my mind. I hate having the memory of a hamster... Yes on day one I thought he was a townie. On day two his refusal to admit he was wrong made me think he was scummy.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

really...?? I thought it was an okay move. I guess I was wrong about the compromise lynch

[SatanHellYeah]

I agree with the waiting.

But I am not pleased about it.

Also, having him replaced is a mess. Now, we have to deal with another guy who won't be able to explain Reg's last move.

@Nom
Ree-Ran-Fuzzy?

It's true that Ran hasn't posted too much but, do you really think that he might be scum? I mean, at this point, and if he was teamed with either Ree or Fuzzy, he would have posted in their favor. Or maybe against them. But I think he would have been posting anyway. Not lurking. I am not comfortable with him lurking, though. Some reads would be nice.

@Ranawey
What are your reads? And I'm particularly interested in your thoughts about Nom.

@Ree
Nom is now giving reads and pushing. He is posting with content and not lurking anymore. Altough he is focusing you and trying to discredit most of your reads, doesn't he look townier to your eyes?

Not saying at all I have a strong townread on him. But I am inclined to think he is rather town than scum.

@Fuzzy
Reads about Nom?

[Mr_Ree]

Not overly. Either he is very very confused and that is causing his bad reads or he is scum attempting to shift suspicion on those players who really shouldnt be considered scummy.

Maiintaining a vote on someone who tried very hard to stop 2 townlynches says it all. scum don't try to prevent mislynches. Just in case it doesn't though, ask him why i should consider him town. That one seems to have stumped him.

I can make town cases for all but three players. He remains one of those three.

He made quite a few posts yesterday too. I don't think anyone could call him out for lurking. It's the way He posts though more than anything. I find it very difficult to believe that He believes in any of his cases. It's much the same way as I flounder as scum, which is why it's recognizable to me. He is probably still my first choice.

Why so curious about Nom?

[SatanHellYeah]

Because he is the hardest to read for me, that's why I want everyone's reads. I cannot form a solid opinion about him, and it's driving me insane.

[Mr_Ree]

New guy may not be able to explain for Reg but He will give us more insight into that slot. I'd like to narrow down my three suspects to 2 suspects and 4 town. It's all about PoE.

The counter to Nom's fearmongering is, If we Lynch correct today, we buy ourselves a few more days to find the partner and the game will continue. With 3 players left, and PoE to work with, I don't see a lylo mislynch. Thats If it even gets that far.

[Mr_Ree]

Who are your top 2 scumreads then?

[SatanHellYeah]

Right now, my top two scumreads would be Skelda and Reg.

But, to be honest, I may have Nom and Reg at the same level. I am not sure about none of them. But I think one of those two is scum with the goat.

[SafetyDance]

Searching for a replacement for Regfan