Newbie 1425 Part Deux -- Game Over

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 1.01

ArcAngel9 - 2 - ChaosOmega, singersigner
RayFrost - 1 - RachMarie
singersigner - 1 - Evil Regals

Not Voting: ObsessedWithCats, RayFrost, ArcAngel9, Guyett, StubbsKVM

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2013-10-17 14:21:42)

V/LA: Evil Regals through Monday October 7

[ArcAngel9]

huh!!

Chaos & Singer - Explain your votes!!

[Guyett]

VOTE: aa9
Why are you concerned with rvs votes?

[RayFrost]

I was cop last game, hahaha.

Vote: Stubbs

toes.

[ObsessedWithCats]

Vote: RayFrost

, because my feet are cold

[ChaosOmega]

Chaos & Singer - Explain your votes!!

You did something scummy, so I voted for you.

RayFrost/Obsessed: No comment on ArcAngel9 at L-2 on page 2?

[ObsessedWithCats]

Is that a thing that's not supposed to happen in RVS? I'd have pointed out L - 1 but (aside from myself) we're all experienced players here so I didn't think I needed to point out L - 2 to ward against accidental hammers.

[RachMarie]

Actually Cats its more what do you think of Arc's posts and the responses of several players. Do you think they are on to something? Do you think Arc could be scum? Or do you think she is town and there is scum on her wagon?

My thoughts on this is that we are now out of RVS since we have a major wagon going.

I am though a tad unsure about the speed of the wagon, though I do understand that her not putting down an RVS vote and then giving a flippant reply afterwards is suspicious, I think if Arc were actually scum, she would not put herself so out there on the very first page. So for now I am leaning town on her.

[singersigner]

Chaos & Singer - Explain your votes!!

You did something scummy, so I voted for you.

RayFrost/Obsessed: No comment on ArcAngel9 at L-2 on page 2?

1. What was suspicious?

2. What were they supposed to say?

Is that a thing that's not supposed to happen in RVS? I'd have pointed out L - 1 but (aside from myself) we're all experienced players here so I didn't think I needed to point out L - 2 to ward against accidental hammers.

No need to "warn" against it, merely what Rachel said and comment on the wagon.

Personally, I think this is excellent, because wagons are one of the few things to really get things started. We've now begun discussion, and are clearly out of any RVS stage this game could've possibly been in.

[ChaosOmega]

What was suspicious?

I'll answer this, but first: Why did you vote her immediately after me?

What were they supposed to say?

Personally, I think this is excellent, because wagons are one of the few things to really get things started. We've now begun discussion,

and are clearly out of any RVS stage this game could've possibly been in

.

Emphasis mine, and that's exactly my point. The wagon that formed on ArcAngel9 takes us out of RVS. Just placing a random vote and not commenting on the current game state allows them to sit back and watch it develop more without input from them. It's not that they were supposed to say something in particular, it's that they were supposed to say something at all, not "stubbed toes, cold feet haha".

[RayFrost]

It's a l-2, whoopdedoo. I don't see much about it being worth making a comment on.

Two basically voiceless votes right after another and then guyett thinking the reaction is scummy. First two things mean nothing, guyett's vote needs a reply before I give my feelings on it so that I don't skew things. Part of my opinion comes from the reply.

[Guyett]

It's a l-2, whoopdedoo. I don't see much about it being worth making a comment on.

Two basically voiceless votes right after another and then guyett thinking the reaction is scummy. First two things mean nothing, guyett's vote needs a reply before I give my feelings on it so that I don't skew things. Part of my opinion comes from the reply.

He looked a slightly scummy in my eyes based on his reaction to getting 2 RVS votes on him. It's nothing big but at this stage in the game its the largest thing to go on and while it is not going to say for sure if the slot is scummy it can be used later on as part of a larger argument if necessary. I like the wagon being at L-2 as its applying some pressure.

[RachMarie]

He? If you mean Arc she is a she.

[ChaosOmega]

V/LA until Monday

[ObsessedWithCats]

I think ArcAngel's request that the votes on her be explained was a bit dubious given they were clearly a reaction to her refusal to join in with RVS. The first vote on ArcAngel (by Chaos) at least could very easily have just been a 'might as well put my vote somewhere and keep things moving'. The second (by Singer) was probably the same, perhaps with a bit more purpose in it though I couldn't say either way whether that looks town or scum. I'm happy with Guyett's explanation that he's applying pressure - that's why I would have guessed the vote was there.

So from the whole situation Guyett

very

mildly town, Chaos null, Singer either way and ArcAngel

very

mildly scum. Certainly not enough to encourage me to vote based on it (especially considering that'd be L - 1), but perhaps telling later on.

[singersigner]

Right, so I thought it was obvious by my comment that I feel very strongly about early wagons driving the game into a stage where we can actually learn something (as opposed to RVS). I was going to vote anyone I thought I could get momentum on and see what happens.

And then Chaos, you haven't offered your own opinion of the "L-2" yet criticize others' silence?

[singersigner]

Hmm. Still nothing (while noting Chaos is out of town)? I'm not used to this...

@ArcAngel9...how do you feel about the way people are responding to your reaction to our votes on you? Are you satisfied with our answers?

[Evil Regals]

Well with AA9's meta her responses to the wagon is really, really town

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 1.02

ArcAngel9 - 3 - ChaosOmega, singersigner, Guyett
RayFrost - 2 - RachMarie, ObsessedWithCats
singersigner - 1 - Evil Regals
StubbsKVM - 1 - RayFrost

Not Voting: ArcAngel9, StubbsKVM

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2013-10-17 14:21:42)

V/LA: Evil Regals through Monday October 7; ChaosOmega through Monday October 7

[RayFrost]

Honestly kinda out of it in terms of motivation

Reset and such and just being tired lately = meeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Nobody Special]

Searching for a replacement for StubbsKVM.

[Nobody Special]

innocentvillager replaces StubbsKVM effective immediately.

[innocentvillager]

lol singer plays mafia too O_O

VOTE: singersigner



;D
D:

[Nobody Special]

ArcAngel9 has been prodded.

[ObsessedWithCats]

Thinking about it I don't think ArcAngel's reaction is as scummy coming from her as it it would be from a lot of other people - I'd probably expect that reaction or similar from ArcAngel regardless of alignment. That makes Guyett's pressure vote look a bit off.

Innocentvillager, any thoughts on the game so far? It seems we're out of RVS. And Ray do we get your opinion on Guyett's vote now he's told us his reasoning?