Mini 1489 - VisCon: Murder at Wingate Mansion [Game Over]

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 5.4

qwints [4] - Nachomamma8, Bert, Empire, Tammy
Tammy [2] - Ms Marangal, qwints

Not Voting [0] -

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch

.

Deadline is October 12, 2013, at 11:00 AM PST.
Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-10-12 13:00:00)

Lynch has occurred.

Flip coming up.

[Empire]

OH MAN LEMME SEE IF I CAN GET SOME SONG LYRICS IN BEFORE LOCK

[FakeGod]

qwints has been

lynched

.

qwints was

August Wingate

: aligned with

Necromancy

.

Empire

succumbs to poison and dies

.

Empire was

May Wingate

, aligned with

Town

.

[FakeGod]

Night 5

It is now night 5.

Night 5 will last three days or less.
Countdown till Day 5: (expired on 2013-10-06 20:00:00)

[FakeGod]

Step... Step…... Step..Step.

Stop.

April leaned on to the servants' quarters door to listen in to the conversation between the servants.

"......it has to be the young mistress. It doesn't make any sense otherwise."

"Yes. That makes sense. I think she was working with alchemy in the side mansion."

"Ah, that's why we weren't allowed in there."

"That must be where she's keeping her poison. Let's go confront her. We can't just let her poison all of us."

April knew the game was up. She turned around to go back to her room. She needed to leave, but she couldn't behind her book, her greatest treasure.

"Young mistress? What are you doing?"

projectmatt had just turned around the corner and spotted her. As he spoke, his eyes widened as he realized that she had overheard the conversation.

"SHE'S OUT HERE! WE NEED TO MOVE- AGRHLEGLeee-" projectmatt raised an alarm, but August had already put a dagger in his throat.

"April! We need to get out of here!", yelled August, as he barred the servants' door with a chair.

"There's something I need to retrieve from my room. Can you buy me time?", asked April.

August held her stare for a second, then slowly said, "5 minutes." as he drew another dagger and waited for the servants to break through.

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Nachomamma8 and generic circled August. Nachomamma8 held a pan in his hands; generic had gardening shears.

"Sir. Please give up. We don't want to fight you. We know that young mistress was the one who poisoned everyone."

August held his stance without a reply, as if waiting for something.

Suddenly, generic clutched his throat. He crumpled to the ground without a sound. His face was already purple.

Nachomamma8 looked on with a horrified face as August sprang forward and knocked the pan out of his hands.

"I'm sorry it had to be this way, Nachomamma8." said August, as he cornered Nachomamma8 into a corner.

As he raised his dagger to strike, August noticed a movement behind him. He attempted to sidestep, but he couldn't get out of the way of Bert's outstretched arms.

"GET YOUR HANDS OFF NACHO!" screamed Bert as they both tumbled to the ground. Lizen, who had followed Bert up to the servant's quarters, ran next to Nachomamma8 to take his vitals. As soon as she realized that Nacho wasn't hurt, she turned around to face August.

August stood up and straightened himself. Bert lay sprawled on the ground, unconscious.

"Did you stab him?" asked Lizen. "I was about to offer you mercy, but I see you won't hesitate to kill innocent people to escape."

August rushed forward without a word, and stabbed Lizen in the chest. His eyes widened in shock as metallic clang echoed around the room. His blade failed to penetrate the armor Lizen had materialized around her.

"Nice try." commented Lizen as full plate armor materialized and enveloped her.

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hah...... hah..........

April opened the door to the rooftop. August has disappeared, and servants on her tail.

As she steadied herself and calmed herself, a familiar voice spoke out.

"April? Is it really you?"

May had been waiting for her at the roof. She knew her habits well.

"Did you really kill our father? I can't believe it..." May stammered.

".....it wasn't me, May. I swear on our mother's grave."

"How do expect me to believe you!"

".....I didn't." came the delayed response, as May clutched her throat. She died before she hit the floor.

April looked out to the estate once more. The rose garden looked as beautiful as it did 10 years ago, when the stranger handed her the book on the day of her mother's funeral.

"......I'm sorry, August." said April. "I couldn't do it."

Ms Marangal,

April Wingate

, aligned with

Necromancy

, surrenders Night 5.

Nachomamma8, Tammy, Bert, Empire, Generic, projectmatt, The Purple Shoe, inte, and Llamarble, who are aligned with

Town

, win!

[FakeGod]

Role PMs

Desperado:

Death

: aligned with

Death

Desperado, you are the Witch of Death, or as June likes to call you,

Death

. You have been the Witch of Death for the past 350 years ever since the War, but a chance meeting with a certain special someone two years ago changed all that. You met June Wingate, the eldest daughter, of the Wingate family. There are no rules against Witches marrying humans, but you worry that your extended lifespan will outlast hers. Therefore, you revealed yourself as the Witch of Death to her and asked her hand in marriage. With the magical contract weaved into the marriage, her lifespan has been increased, although you had to sacrifice a large portion of your power. . .

This recent murder came as a surprise and annoyance to you, since it sealed you and June in the mansion until the culprit is caught. After discussion, you and June agreed to kill your way out, flee the town, and start a new life somewhere far away.

Your partner is

Shadoweh

, playing as

June Wingate

.

Abilities

:

Undetectable Alignment

(all attempts at learning your alignment fails)

Self-Watcher

(you become aware of any and all identities of players who visit you during the night)

Factional Night Kill

(you or June can submit a kill during the night)

Factional Night Talk

(you and June can talk privately during the night, here)

Win Condition: You win when you and your partner,

Shadoweh

, are the only remaining players alive, or nothing can stop it from happening.

Please confirm your role via PM.

Shadoweh:

June Wingate

: aligned with

Death

Shadoweh, you are

June Wingate

, the eldest daughter of the Wingate family. You have trained your entire life to be the perfect heiress to the Wingate fortune. However, a chance meeting with a certain special someone two years ago changed all that. He’s bit dark and gloomy, but he has this strange charm with him that you fell for. Few days ago, he has revealed himself as the

Death

, short for Witch of Death, and he asked your hand in marriage, which you accepted.

This recent murder came as a surprise and annoyance to you, since it sealed you and Death in the mansion until the culprit is caught. After discussion, you and Death agreed to kill your way out, flee the town, and start a new life somewhere far away.

As a member of the Wingate Family, you have access to the

Wingate private room

, here. The room can be only accessed by members of the Wingate Family. You do not know the alignments of the players in the Wingate private room.

Your partner is

Desperado

, playing as

Death

.

Abilities

:

Wingate

(you may night talk in the Wingate QT)

Factional Night Kill

(you or Death can submit a kill during the night)

Factional Night Talk

(you and Death can talk privately during the night,here)

Win Condition: You win when you and your partner,

Desperado

, are the only remaining players alive, or nothing can stop it from happening.

Please confirm your role via PM.

Ms Marangal

:

April Wingate

: aligned with

Necromancy

Ms Marangal, you are

April Wingate

, the third and youngest daughter of the Wingate family. You always had a dark atmosphere around you, perhaps because you’ve been studying Necromancy in the tool shed. With June running off to town at the first opportunity, and May traveling all the time, it’s up to you to save your ailing father, and you believe Necromancy can help you save your father from death. You’ve been experimenting on local wildlife nearby, and on yourself. You couldn’t have kept it a secret from everyone if it wasn’t for August’s help. August is a war orphan who was taken in by your late mother. He has worked as a butler and footman until your mother’s death, at which point, your father has officially adopted him as his son.

Murder of your father changed everything. You weren’t ready for his death, and he’s now gone forever. You want the world to pay, and using Necromancy, you’ll create something so powerful that world will tremble beneath its feet, a Death Golem. To do so, you first need deaths to happen in the mansion…

As a member of the Wingate Family, you have access to the

Wingate private room

, here. The room can be only accessed by members of the Wingate Family. You do not know the alignments of the players in the Wingate private room.

Your partner is

qwints

, playing as

August Wingate

.

Abilities

:

Poisoner

(you may poison someone during the night. The poisoned victim will die next twilight)

Wingate

(you may night talk in the Wingate QT)

Factional Night and Day Talk

(you and August can talk privately during the night and day, here)

Note:

Your partner has one-way

Lover

toward you. (if you die at any point of game, he will also immediately die.

NOTE

: April is not a Lover, and you lives on even if August is killed during game

)

Win Condition: You win when you and your partner,

qwints

, are the only remaining players alive, or nothing can stop it from happening.

Please confirm your role via PM.

qwints

:

August Wingate

: aligned with

Necromancy

qwints, you are

August Wingate

, the adopted son of the Wingate family. Your biological family was killed long ago in the war, and Lady Wingate took you in. You have worked as a butler and footman ever since, learning more and more about the life of the nobility. You’ve worked hard to pay back the woman who saved you from certain death. Lady Wingate passed away few years ago, but April, the youngest daughter of Wingates, is her spitting image, and you decided to guard her for Madam’s memory. Even when youngest daughter began to engage in Necromancy, you helped her keep the experiments secret.

Murder of your father changed April. She seems to have lost much of her sanity, babbling to herself about death and magic. One thing’s for sure, though. You’re going to see that April gets out of here alive.

As a member of the Wingate Family, you have access to the

Wingate private room

, here. The room can be only accessed by members of the Wingate Family. You do not know the alignments of the players in the Wingate private room.

Your partner is

Ms Marangal

, playing as

April Wingate

.

Abilities

:

Bodyguard

(you may protect someone, other than yourself, during the night. If someone attempts to kill your target, you will be killed instead)

Cop

(you may investigate someone to learn their alignment)

NOTE

: You may both Bodyguard and Cop during the same night.

Lover

(if April Wingate dies at any point of game, you will also immediately die.

NOTE

: April is not a Lover, and she lives on even if you are killed during game)

Wingate

(you may night talk in the Wingate QT)

Factional Night and Day Talk

(you and August can talk privately during the night and day, here)

Win Condition: You win when you and your partner,

Ms Marangal

, are the only remaining players alive, or nothing can stop it from happening.

Please confirm your role via PM.

Empire:

May Wingate

: aligned with

Town

Empire, you are

May Wingate

, the second daughter of the Wingate family. You’ve led a fairly uneventful life so far, as far as uneventful a rich noble’s daughter’s life goes. You used to travel around the country to learn more, but with your father’s ailment worsening, you headed home to be with him before he passed away. Upon arrival, you invited your old friend, Albert. He’s a son of very wealthy nobility from the city, and unlike others, he doesn’t try to impress you with brawn or jewelry. In fact, he can be quite entertaining sometimes. Plus, he’s the only one who listens to your tales when you talk about the places you’ve visited. He mentioned that he will be bringing friends. Of course, they are welcome to stay as well.

Unfortunately, your father has been murdered. You have resolved to find his killer and bring him/her to justice.

As a member of the Wingate Family, you have access to the

Wingate private room

, here. The room can be only accessed by members of the Wingate Family. You do not know the alignments of the players in the Wingate private room.

Abilities

:

Wingate

(you may night talk in the Wingate QT)

Win Condition: You win when there are no threats to town remaining.

Please confirm your role via PM.

Llamarble:

Aetis

: aligned with

Town

Llamarble, you are

Aetis

, a traveler. You and Lizen were invited along with Albert to Wingate Mansion. Unfortunately, soon as you got there, someone murdered Lord Wingate, and the mansion has been sealed. You’re good at reasoning things out, and you’re confident you can find out who the murderer is. Just be careful of being wrong…

As a guest of the Wingate Family, you have the access to the

Guest private room

, here. The room can be accessed by other guests of the Wingate Family. You do not know the alignments of the players in the Guest private room.

Abilities

:

Variant Weak Cop

(you may investigate someone to learn their alignment, but if you investigate someone who is

not

aligned with town, you lose your ability to investigate)

NOTE

: if the investigation fails, this does not apply.

Guest

(you may night talk in the Guest QT)

Win Condition: You win when there are no threats to town remaining.

Please confirm your role via PM.

Tammy:

Lizen

: aligned with

Town

Tammy, you are

Lizen

, a Knight from the House of Hastiel. You and Aetis were invited along with Albert to Wingate Mansion. Unfortunately, soon as you got there, someone murdered Lord Wingate, and the mansion has been sealed. You have confidence in your Visualization, and fighting ability. You’re going to try to stay ahead of the murderer and protect as many as you can.

As a guest of the Wingate Family, you have the access to the

Guest private room

, here. The room can be accessed by other guests of the Wingate Family. You do not know the alignments of the players in the Guest private room.

Abilities

:

Medic

(you may protect someone, including yourself, during the night against kills, but you may not protect anyone two nights in a row)

Awareness

(you are aware whether your target was visited by someone else other than you during the night, but not the number of visitors nor their identities.)

Guest

(you may night talk in the Guest QT)

Win Condition: You win when there are no threats to town remaining.

Please confirm your role via PM.

inte:

Albert

: aligned with

Town

inte, you are

Albert

, a noble from not-so-distant city. You were invited along with your companions, Aetis and Lizen, to the Wingate Mansion by May Wingate, an old friend of yours. Unfortunately, soon as you got there, someone murdered Lord Wingate, and the mansion has been sealed. You need to find the murderer and bring him/her to justice if you want to leave the mansion alive.

As a guest of the Wingate Family, you have the access to the

Guest private room

, here. The room can be accessed by other guests of the Wingate Family. You do not know the alignments of the players in the Guest private room.

Abilities

:

Guest

(you may night talk in the Guest QT)

Win Condition: You win when there are no threats to town remaining.

Please confirm your role via PM.

[FakeGod]

Set-up Guide: (approximation)

2 vs 2 vs 9

(13 players Multi-ball game)

Mafia Self-watching Godfather
Mafia Neighbor

vs.

Mafia Poisoner Neighbor
Mafia Bodyguard Cop Neighbor Half-Lover

vs.

Town Variant Weak Cop
Town Medic (alternate night doc + variant watcher)
Town Neighbors X2
5 VT


Flavor of the game was not known to anyone, since I made them all up.

Wingates had months as first names.

Mafia were not given fake claims.


Dead QT

Night Actions

Night 1 Actions:

Shadoweh kills Llamarble.

Ms Marangal poisons Shadoweh.
qwints guard Ms Marangal, detects Tammy, and receives "Tammy is aligned with Town."

Llamarble detects qwints, and receives "qwints is aligned with Necromancy."
Tammy protects Nachomamma8, and receives "No one other than you visited Nachomamma8 last night."

Night 2 Actions:

Ms Marangal poisons The Purple Shoe.
qwints investigates Generic, and receives "Generic is aligned with Town."

Tammy protects herself, and receives "No one other than you have visited you tonight."

Night 3 Actions:

Ms Marangal poisons Generic.

Tammy protects Ms Marangal, and receives "No one other than you have visited Ms Marangal tonight."

Night 4 Actions:

Ms Marangal poisons Empire.

Tammy protects herself, and receives "No one other than you have visited you tonight."

[FakeGod]

My Two Cents

Death Faction was the "Conventional" mafia team. It takes two lynches to get both, and either of the members can kill during the night, but they are unable to talk during the day. Since there were only two, they may have guessed at the game start that there is another anti-faction out there.

Necromancy Faction was the "Serial Killer" mafia team. They have daytalk and is able to coordinate better than the Death Faction, but they're much more vulnerable to lynches (just one good lynch will end this faction). Another advantage of this faction was inclusion of a Cop, which immediately lets them know that there is another anti-town faction out there.


Death is quite powerful of a role, almost to a point where Death can function as one-man team. He's immune to detection from both cops, and self-watches, which is an already powerful ability that compliments his detection immunity. His only weakness is his lack of reliable fake claim, which fixes itself as the game goes on longer and more flavor info is known. Death is definitely not as expendable as June Wingate, who's basically just a spy for Death into the Wingate Neighborhood. In fact, due to August's ability to detect alignment, should he decide to check out the Wingate Neighborhood, June would have been found quickly. One saving grace is that Death's flip looks exactly like what a SK's flip should look like, which helps hide June little bit better should Death get killed before June.

April and August are also pretty strong, but they require a bit more finesse to play, as SKs generally do. April is obviously the more important member here, since August dies immediately if April is killed. Having a poisoner instead of normal night kill helps this team tremendously especially in a mini, since it hides their kills until Day 2 is over. To strengthen April & August against the other scum team during the night when the enemy scum team will be looking for them, I gave August ability to bodyguard April. I considered a doctor instead of a bodyguard for August, but that would mean there will be no rewards for the Death faction for guessing the Necromancy team correctly. Seeing how Death faction didn't have a way to detect Alignment during the night, I decided on bodyguard. Necromancy team also had two people in the Wingate Neighborhood, giving them a bigger say in influencing the neighborhood.

I presented Guest Neighborhood as a power gamble option. There's usually a fair chance that a neighborhood contains a scum, and claiming your power role in one is very dangerous. However, if you're willing to burn night actions on confirming your own neighborhood, it does pay off big. If Guests are played as Masons, town now had a half-immune-to-NKs cop. Originally, I had Aetis as a weak cop and Lizen without Awareness, but because I wanted to let the option of ignoring the neighborhood and playing independent PRs, I reduced Aetis's penalty for finding scum, and gave Lizen a very weak detection power.

As for interactions between the neighborhoods, I included the names of the Guests in May Wingate's flavor, and included the name of May Wingate in Albert's flavor. It was important that the scum teams had a way to learn about the Guest neighborhood outside the main game.

Large number of VTs ensured that VT fakeclaim was safe from PoE. This was important seeing how mafia were not given fakeclaims, and no one knew what the flavor was.

[Tammy]

Oh lol...Mara really did claim scum in the neighborhood. haha.

Is there a dead qt?

gg town.

Thanks for running it FakeGod, and I had fun playing with you all. I'm really glad that my frustrations were born from the neighborhood that was mostly scum anyway

[Tammy]

oh sorry i didn't protect you night one Llamarble, I almost did but went with nacho instead.

[projectmatt]

Good game. Sorry to all I was unpleasant to in the heat of the moment, lol. This was a fun game to come back to after not playing for a long time. Hope I play with most of you again.

[Nachomamma8]

interesting!

[Nachomamma8]

sorry matt

[Tammy]

I TOLD YOU ALL THE QWINTS SLOT WAS SCUM!!!

[Tammy]

I'm still sorry for that accidental quickhammer though matt.

[projectmatt]

You guys don't have to apologize, it's cool.

Unsubtle brag: I called all the scum in my first catch-up post!!!! After that my reads got all paranoid and incorect

but still...

Anyway, retrospectively I think the town power might be a little bit low but it worked out pretty well. Thanks for being a good moderator, Fake.

[Tammy]

ITG we learnt that empire is easily manipulated in a neighborhood >_>

[Bert]

sorry matt

You didn't listen to Generic or me about Mara on Day 3 or 4. Meanie.

[Alfred Borden]

Yay!!
I was very afraid Qwints would never get lynched after I took my guilty on him to the grave.

I do feel really good about how I played this game.

Empire had all 3 scum as town purely due to solid role info (Desp claiming a Wingate looked good for Shadoweh and the other 2 were confirmed to him), so he's pretty blameless

FakeGod great job on another really cool setup & game!

[Bert]

Hey FG you rocked this game!!! <333

And I enjoyed this game for the most part - OK OK so the frustration kinda boiled in me noggin at times because I just wanted to speedlynch people at times - MARA I'm looking at you.

And yeah, Mara refusing to acknowledge that killing qwints would confirm her and thus help us town...that was as good as a scumclaim.

Tammy played really well, Nacho did too

Shadoweh and inte kinda rubbed me the wrong way during the game, and me the same towards them, but no hard feelings <3

And yeah, the format of the game was really good (OK the multi-ball and all the NK's really killed the rhythm), but I enjoyed the game and did get engaged which is what I look for in a game - being entertained.

I like the formatting of FG's games - not too much colors, and really serious-looking and professional. I remember Assassins in the Palace which FG modded and I played in, and it was so professional. Bravo. <3

[Tammy]

Oh now I hate myself more. If I would have gone with my gut and healed Llamarble night one, we'd have been saved so much freaking agony.

[FakeGod]

Night actions posted.

Dead QT link posted.

I don't post scum QT. Scum players, feel free to post links to your QTs.

[FakeGod]

To everyone, thank you for playing. I had a great time with you all.

Flavor is from Visualized Concept, or VisCon for short. It's a fictional world I created and wrote stories for.

To anyone who liked the flavor, you might be interested to hear that I plan to mod more VisCon games in the future! (And yes! Some of the characters from this game will return!)

Thanks again, everybody.

[Shadowy Poison]

I'm sorry for ruining your game FG via, claiming early on

it was a great game though!

[Shadowy Poison]

And yeah, Mara refusing to acknowledge that killing qwints would confirm her and thus help us town...that was as good as a scumclaim.

Nah

I wouldn't have wanted to lynch Qwints even if we were town. I. Just. Don't. Kill. town.

especially those who are "conf. town" IMO, it goes against everything I stand for.