A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?

[Tammy]

I'm a DRAGON!
The biggest one of all!
Did you try to marry me?

-.-

##Unvote

YOU CAN'T BE A DRAGON! THAT'S STUPID! I'm never calling you again. </3

Tammy, do you know what happened with Syr's disappearance, or are you avoiding commenting on it?

You should probably try to verify people are humans before you try to marry them >_>

Here's all I have to say about syryana atm

waiting for mollie to criticize more music

[Alfred Borden]

Benmage, why are you not in here pontificating about how amazing you are right now owning that massive fuckup of a clear and obvious mislynch?

That lynch was a clear success. Get better.

No. If you're town, you played bad.
So did I.

[Nautilius]

Because I don't trust desp.

I don't trust agar.

discuss

I don't trust agar a lot. I liked his "thor and me are similar players" thing but i didn't really like anything else.

where were you yesterday in the last hours of the day round. why are you voting amrun? why are you not trusting messiah? can we plz discuss some of our reads and see where we are at?

i'm voting amrun cos she's probably scum + for thor.
i don't trust messiah because he's messiah. i like him better now.
sure! when i sync up with elli.

You're voting me for "lurking," when it's CLEARLY not alignment indicative,

yeah?
seems kinda alignment indicative.

[Alfred Borden]

I don't have a strong read on either Cephir or Ooba, but I don't want to lynch either of them today.

It's a little early for "Don't want to lynch today" on neutralreads.
Also both of those players have good amounts to go off of.

Amrun if you don't want to get lynched we're going to need a lot more out of you in the next few days.

[Tammy]

he also had concerns about cephrir, goat people and had town reads on messiah, agar, tammy I think.

He never stated a town read on me; he didn't talk to me like he *thought* I was scum, but he didn't say hey tammy's town. He did state a town read on Alfred though that you missed.

[Tammy]

That's okay.
Let's vote Amrun together!

Displaced doesn't look like a scumbag.
I'll make a new list tonight or tomorrow.

Okay!

VOTE: amrun

[Tammy]

Since I'm not playing the game and am terrible at it anyway I realise the error of my ways, so I will be sheeping Tammy all day. Her rage is sincere and her ego, just perfect. So really, it's a no brainer. mmmBOP

I don't remember calling you terrible. If I thought you were just a terrible mafia player; I'd just ignore your presence and move on, but as I said earlier I think you have the capability of looking town when you are, so if you are town your not doing anything was frustrating.

Can we get something a little cooler than hanson associated with me because regardless what mollie thinks my musical taste is like, mmmbop is kinda meh.

[Benmage]

Benmage, why are you not in here pontificating about how amazing you are right now owning that massive fuckup of a clear and obvious mislynch?

That lynch was a clear success. Get better.

No. If you're town, you played bad.
So did I.

By getting rid of a thorn in the game, with 18 hours to go.. when everyone else was headless chickens... I call that a success.

[Amrun]

Because I don't trust desp.

I don't trust agar.

discuss

I don't trust agar a lot. I liked his "thor and me are similar players" thing but i didn't really like anything else.

where were you yesterday in the last hours of the day round. why are you voting amrun? why are you not trusting messiah? can we plz discuss some of our reads and see where we are at?

i'm voting amrun cos she's probably scum + for thor.
i don't trust messiah because he's messiah. i like him better now.
sure! when i sync up with elli.

You're voting me for "lurking," when it's CLEARLY not alignment indicative,

yeah?
seems kinda alignment indicative.

If you LITERALLY think it has anything to do with alignment, and are not just bullshitting, then you probably need your head checked. That's your own fucking problem. Sometimes, it's not so obvious. This time it's OBVIOUS and cross-games of all alignments including modded games. You're reaching at straws -- why resort to that? Don't you have ANY other better reads? Who else is scum? Your reasoning on messiah is also really scant/ completely non-existent.

Why am I "probably scum?"

Fred, if you're voting me because you "need more out of me" rather than thinking I am scum, you should probably re-evaluate your vote. I'm going to do my best but it's my standard weekend v/la and I'm still in "sleep 18 hours a day because very sick" mode, so I'm not making any promises. I have hope since things are improving, and I'll certainly check the thread and post things as they occur to me, but an actual catch up probably can't happen until Tuesday-ish, by which time I'll probably want to rip my head off less. I forgot my keys today, and my schoolwork, and was babbling -- I can't even handle real life yet. I'll be surprised if I read this later and it's coherent, to be frank. Unfortunately, this is my best right now.

So am I scum or are you pressure voting me? Which is it?

[Amrun]

Okay, I have some questions for people to try and get my bearings here:

Garruk: how is my post anything like mollie's? And "voting" is a metaphorical "suspect," sorry about that.

Tammy: Why CAN'T messiah and Tierce be scum together? They both seem fairly scummy to me.

Zdenek and Cephrir feel town to me. Kanye still super town. Macmollie fairly town.

I agree with Zdenek re: fruit vendor. I do t see how that's any different than a scum fruit vendor would have behaved. I think that action is pretty null in context.

PnJ still scummy. Nautilus scummy. Garruk scummy but idk, somehow feeling less scummy on that than I was like earlier today?! Not sure why. That one post I referred to earlier came off townish I guess.

VOTE: nautilus

Gonna go with my gut here. >.>

[PrideandJoy]

tammy tammy tammy
i'm always town
come on

[Amrun]

In the above, I mean "joat with a fruit vendor ability," for clarification.

[PrideandJoy]

back off of nacho pl0x

[Tammy]

Tammy: Why CAN'T messiah and Tierce be scum together? They both seem fairly scummy to me.

Do you mean Garruk and Tierce?

And, Tammy, I have strong reason to suspect that Tierce is town. Don't want to go into more detail at the moment, but, yeah. I refuse to support that lynch today.

That's what I'm talking about. Do you really think Garruk comes out day two and draws a straight line to his partner at the start of day two?

[Tierce]

Tammy: Why CAN'T messiah and Tierce be scum together? They both seem fairly scummy to me.

One, it was not Messiah Complex, it was Garruk. Second, right, because damn you are good at reading me and have really been trying to do so!

As for you not being "able to handle real life", you can take your RL AtE and shove it. If you're not well enough to handle this game, replace out. Voting you for your lack of presence in the game and trying to push you to contribute when you have yet to do anything worth attention is something you should be

expecting

at this point. You've had plenty of time and no one forces you to sign up for multiple games when you are perfectly aware that it's a time when your life gets in the way. You make this kind of lame excuse in every game and it's extremely irritating. Get your priorities and your life in order before insisting that others have to accept it in a game you signed up for out of your goddamned free will.


I mean, it's perfectly obvious that something happened between Garruk and I that tells them I am Town. You can't even be bothered to look through this stuff (or know who you are talking about), or see how ridiculous a connection it would trace between us if I were to flip scum.

[Garruk Relentless]

So, garruk, let me get this straight. You're voting me for "lurking," when it's CLEARLY not alignment indicative, while you yourself have zero reads and have consciously decided to "lurk it out?" You're relying on figuring out the setup and yet have too much respect for the mods to wifom the setup, and took a back seat in the largely setup-grounded argument about Thor yesterday?

No. No. Kill this. This is called scum non-committal disease.

Just for you Amrun. The middle part(zero reads+lurk it out) is just parroting macmollie.

Onto the first part, I should go find the game where I lynched sensfan for lurking after he was VLA via drunk driver accident for like a month. Fun times. Two weeks is a long time to go VLA and, quite frankly, I would suggest that a player be replaced or hydreplace in. There comes a point where it becomes an active detriment to the game & scummy.

As for the whole miller-wifom, I said early on yesterday we believed it to be true. That was the extent of my care to involve in that--our modifier implied the other, and that was all I had to say on the matter. As they progressed more and more in the argument, I got more and more apathetic. I do respect Faraday in regards to setup wifom, but that does not mean you cannot draw conclusions from it nonetheless.

PEdit: What Tierce said pretty much.

[Cephrir]

I am becoming increasingly paranoid about P&J. They just don't look like town Chesskid to me.

Like how? I've only ever seen scum!Chesskid, so I wouldn't known town him if he smacked me, but ActionDan not doing anything is pretty worrying.

I expect more proactivity.

Really? I don't think I've ever seen Dan do a single thing.

[Alfred Borden]

@Amrun: Some of column A, some of column B.
I forgot about your weekend V/LA
1933 & 1934 are definitely a good start though.

TOWN:
Alfred Borden
Tammy
Tierce
Elleheathen - For the little things (#469, #1861, # 687). And the usual things. Strong read.
SafetyDance

Benmage is probably town - 1652, etc. I still have the urge to lynch him though because he's acting Benmagey.
Cephrir is playing a good game if he's scum. He's certainly putting in the work and especially a lot of his later posts are solid. #1889, other stuff.

Agar might be scum. His play is solid but the townie X factor isn't blazing.
Messiah Complex is similar with a lot of scumhunty posts but nothing unfakeable. Will revisit this slot and Agar slot.

Gonna stop now due to World Championship!

[Alfred Borden]

@Amrun: Some of column A, some of column B.
I forgot about your weekend V/LA
1933 & 1934 are definitely a good start though.

TOWN:
Alfred Borden
Tammy
Tierce
Elleheathen - For the little things (#469, #1861, # 687). And the usual things. Strong read.
SafetyDance

Benmage is probably town - 1652, etc. I still have the urge to lynch him though because he's acting Benmagey.
Cephrir is playing a good game if he's scum. He's certainly putting in the work and especially a lot of his later posts are solid. #1889, other stuff.

Agar might be scum. His play is solid but the townie X factor isn't blazing.
Messiah Complex is similar with a lot of scumhunty posts but nothing unfakeable. Will revisit this slot and Agar slot.

Gonna stop now due to World Championship!

[PrideandJoy]

I'd say I'm doing pretty good not reading a 80 page thread and still a) finding scum and b) not trying to lynch 1,2,3 3! people who are/were town.

Can't say I disagree with Chess's recent vote considering Mr messiah thinks a purely null post is town.

[PrideandJoy]

Dan did you know that if you want to indicate that something belongs to someone whose name ends in s you don't add another s after the apostrophe

[Nautilius]

If you LITERALLY think it has anything to do with alignment, and are not just bullshitting, then you probably need your head checked. That's your own fucking problem. Sometimes, it's not so obvious. This time it's OBVIOUS and cross-games of all alignments including modded games. You're reaching at straws -- why resort to that? Don't you have ANY other better reads? Who else is scum? Your reasoning on messiah is also really scant/ completely non-existent.

This was a stronger response than I expected.

[Goat on a Raft]

This was a stronger response than I expected.

It was pretty much what your post deserved. Voting Amrun 'for lurking' would be dumb.

[elleheathen]

28 - Benmage - 'Obviously' (and only here to outline his original RVS)
62 - Kanye - 'Well this is actually easy.'
396 - Thor - 'Miller claim looks bogus.'
778 - Goat - 'Mainly because their interaction with Benmage which seemed like the were just trying to be antagonistic.'
1579 - Thor - Blank
1817 - Amrun - Blank

Well, if you are going to hold my RVS votes against me there's really not much I can say. As for the others, Goat's attack on Banmage was lame and they admitted as much, Thor was a scum read from the get go, Benmage made some good points about him, and he was a lynch that I was fine with at the end of the day. I'd already explained my Amrun vote, and I feel no need to repeat myself.

I'm not using your RVS against you - and state specifically that I only add the first vote in there to

show

the one that is RVS. Are you saying your second vote on Kanye in 62 is not RVS? Because it looks like you're defending it as a legitimate vote in 69, 182 and 187...

What do you think of the other Amrun votes?

If you mean the wagon as a whole, I think this is exactly the time it needs to happen. There seems to be a lot of questions arisen due to her inactivity and/or lack of contribution - and running her up seems to be working if only to get her involved/responding because

lurking

isn't going to cut it - we need more.

If you mean the people on Amrun's wagon, I have Alfred, Naut and Goat as town. Shadoweh I had as leaning town but the whole marriage thing/no marriage/dragon marriage fail gives me weird vibes. But I'm not really clear on what happens with all that so idk but it puts her back at a null. (Anyone wanna clear up what happened there for me? D: )

[elleheathen]

I don't have a strong read on either Cephir or Ooba, but I don't want to lynch either of them today.

Why not?