Newbie 1436 ~ Game Over

[fferyllt]

Didn't GM claim VT?

[Cabd]

VT. Do it if you like. I have revised my reads slightly in that I've switched Cabd's and fffff's places.

If you don't mind waiting a bit I'd like to finish the T S O case while I can.

She did, actually..... Very odd...

[Cabd]

I can't see anyone making that mistake if they were following closely to the thread.

Maybe agi is scum after all?

[fferyllt]

VT. Do it if you like. I have revised my reads slightly in that I've switched Cabd's and fffff's places.

If you don't mind waiting a bit I'd like to finish the T S O case while I can.

Yeah she did.

[Bert]

You think Scum know who the PRs are?

No, but GM was under a considerable amount of suspicion yesterday, and had claimed VT. She would have been lynchbait and have made me paranoid for the duration of the game. I was paranoid thinking about her during the night, for that matter.

Yeah, the argument of them framing Ffery makes sense if you are scum and want to make a framing kill.

Because let's be honest here. A newbie might think silly enough to see GM flip after saying she was gonna nail ffery, and then push to turbolynch ffery. If agi is scum, this is probably the case. I don't think agi is scum, but it's certainly a layer of wifom added to the scenario, and the kill doesn't fit my scum ffery model.

Does Ffery kill whoever she wants dead just because she absolutely doesn't want him/her alive? Agi-scum does make sense in this scenario, but man I feel I am delving into WIFOM territory that is detrimental to town so feel free to put a stop to it.

[Malakittens]

2.01

With 7 alive it's 4 votes to lynch.

Voting for:

*Cabd -
*Fferyllt -
*Bert -
*Kazekirimaru -
*agi102 -
*Sakura Hana -
*notscience -

Not voting: agi102, Fferyllt, notscience, Kazekirimaru, Sakura Hana, Bert, Cabd [7]

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2013-10-21 00:03:00)

[Bert]

I can't see anyone making that mistake if they were following closely to the thread.

Maybe agi is scum after all?

I'm thinking agi-scum too, but I feel like an easily-manipulated idiot.

[Cabd]

It would certainly fit. Make a single post that everyone calls you town for, then do absolutely nothing the rest of the game day.

I'll wait for the rest of the gang to come in and weigh on it.

[Bert]

Although, agi's buddy can't have been inactive and would have told him/her about the claim...

[Bert]

.but the VT kill is kinda confusing all the same

???

You think Scum know who the PRs are?

Do you usually 'forget' about who claimed what? You were here for the last 12 hours of the day, when GM claimed.

[fferyllt]

You think Scum know who the PRs are?

No, but GM was under a considerable amount of suspicion yesterday, and had claimed VT. She would have been lynchbait and have made me paranoid for the duration of the game. I was paranoid thinking about her during the night, for that matter.

Yeah, the argument of them framing Ffery makes sense if you are scum and want to make a framing kill.

Because let's be honest here. A newbie might think silly enough to see GM flip after saying she was gonna nail ffery, and then push to turbolynch ffery. If agi is scum, this is probably the case. I don't think agi is scum, but it's certainly a layer of wifom added to the scenario, and the kill doesn't fit my scum ffery model.

Does Ffery kill whoever she wants dead just because she absolutely doesn't want him/her alive? Agi-scum does make sense in this scenario, but man I feel I am delving into WIFOM territory that is detrimental to town so feel free to put a stop to it.

As scum, I PR-hunt/PR-avoid for scum kills, and take out players I think are threats to my team. I don't anticipate staying alive for long.

[Cabd]

.but the VT kill is kinda confusing all the same

???

You think Scum know who the PRs are?

Do you usually 'forget' about who claimed what? You were here for the last 12 hours of the day, when GM claimed.

As a reminder, I was at a mexican restaurant downing tequila at the time. That said, I did in fact forget that GM had claimed.

[fferyllt]

agi102 fits on a surface level, but I really didn't get any sort of scum vibe from his posts yesterday. He was involved and trying out gambits and stuff initially. When the game got pretty deep, he just seemed lost.

[Kazekirimaru]

I...

Don't know.

[Kazekirimaru]

I feel like this NK analysis is getting us nowhere, though. wifom, wifom, wifom.

[Bert]

I mean, there has to be incentive. Ffery makes sense on a surface level too, but it's just... convenient.

Like from a newb incentive perspective, I can see why you might want to frame someone by killing a claimed VT's top announced scumread in the case that TSO flips town.

But only one player in this game remaining is a newbie. The kill is such WIFOM that it could be interpreted to frame agi102 is what I'm saying.

[Bert]

I feel like this NK analysis is getting us nowhere, though. wifom, wifom, wifom.

Yup. Say the magic word?? <3333333333333

[Kazekirimaru]

But only one player in this game remaining is a newbie. The kill is such WIFOM that it could be interpreted to frame agi102 is what I'm saying.

You're going balls deep now.

That's a real stretch.

[Cabd]

To be entire honest, this is the kind of kill i'd make if I was scum with ffery, or was scum in ffery's slot. But I play scum in a very unique manner so for ffery to be scum means she's lifting pages from my book. Which is technically possible after those morph scumgames.

[Bert]

To be entire honest, this is the kind of kill i'd make if I was scum with ffery, or was scum in ffery's slot. But I play scum in a very unique manner so for ffery to be scum means she's lifting pages from my book. Which is technically possible after those morph scumgames.

Yeah, I thought of morph and me in Mismatched, where you asked me who I wanted dead, and who we absolutely didn't want alive in the game. Ffery-scum would absolutely not want GM alive. And since you thought your lifespan would be short, you could melt someone in molten chocolate, whoever we desired to murder!

You're going balls deep now.

That's a real stretch.

as I've been saying this is delving into WIFOM territory. I will stop now.

[fferyllt]

To be entire honest, this is the kind of kill i'd make if I was scum with ffery, or was scum in ffery's slot. But I play scum in a very unique manner so for ffery to be scum means she's lifting pages from my book. Which is technically possible after those morph scumgames.

I don't think I'd try to emulate your game as scum. Not when I could PR hunt. In the newbie game format eliminating PRs is optimal IMO.

[Bert]

Speaking of Castle, which I just read back (I didn't get to read back much at the end of Day 1 as you all witnessed LOL), I'm sorry Ffery you had to read that game! Bad Cabd. BAD BOY!

You made her read that, you YOU YOU I'm gonna getcha

You're right, it was burlesquing, and it was AWFUL dirty, sickening play from me <3

[Kazekirimaru]

v.v

ceaseless meta

self-scummetaing

wifom discussions

im losing interest

[Bert]

Town (Bert, aji102, notsci)
Probtown (Sakura, GM)
Scum (Cabd, Kase)

Possibly subject to change based on TSO flip.

So, did this change? Are you gonna wait a while before you tell us why

If TSO flips town I dunno. Kase has been on his butt for much of his time in the game. Might give him town points for that. Cabd's hey how about nolynch was probably not going to happen given site meta about day 1 nolynch, so suggesting it so close to deadline makes me nervous.

Does Kaze get townpoints and why or why not?

[Cabd]

Bert, ffery said right before the end of day that it had changed with me no longer in the scum category.