Micro 242: Les Miserables Mafia (Game Over)

[shos]

@GG: I don't understand what you're trying to say. what does that sentence *imply* to you is not equal with what I meant it would. what I meant was a general 'in case I am lynched'. the before or after my claim was to distinguish between 'lynch my voters' and 'lynch my voters if I am quickhammered without claim'.

I don't understand mhork's post.
funki keeps being scummy, agreeing with an illogical thought as if it is scummy. I don't understand why saying that I'll be back soon is scummy; I was teaching private lessons in physics until about now. why isn't that a good way to start a post, and why would you point it out? you're trying to throw mud; GG 'loves me' because I 'loved him' in a game we just finished. what did I need to think about? was there any question directed at me? I already answered who the scum is(at least one, you).

I haven't voted iirc, so VOTE: funkybike

@BV: it's not only funky that has no reason - nobody have any reason here to vote me as far as I know. they disagree with my townread on whoever that was, but they haven't said anything that warrants a reason to vote me yet.

[shos]

OH LOL
that one who put the L-1 vote was funky himself xD

well, proves I was wrong.

[bv310]

God damn it Shos, why'd you have to start acting Town-y now? I had my pitchfork all sharpened and everything. I'm still watching you though. Always watching...

unvote

[Lord Mhork]

You're wrong. Seeping is blindly following someone's reads. I had reasoning.

And you're wrong again. I most definitely expressed issue with Shos before.

[@bv: russel Crowe can go die in a hole. Other than that, it was alright.]

What do you mean by good information from his flip?

PEDIT:
Did you just call me scum, Shos?

[shos]

I don't understand mhork's post.

I don't get how you infer that from me

[Lord Mhork]

Right under that I see 'I said who the scum where. One is you.' It was poorly formatted so I wasn't sure to what you were referring.

[bv310]

[@bv: russel Crowe can go die in a hole. Other than that, it was alright.]

What do you mean by good information from his flip?

[I actually didn't mind Russell Crowe. The only problem was that he sucked at singing while moving]

Was this second bit addressed to me?

[Lord Mhork]

Yes it was.

[Kazekirimaru]

What do you think about it?
What's your read on Mhork? And on funky?

Think about what?
Leaning town and hard scum respectively.


@Grimgroove: No read on me?

Don't think I support a shos wagon. Feels bad. 101 reads genuine.

[funkybike1]

Er, what? You haven't said a thing about me other than your "srs bsnz" vote and the Morton's Fork thing. Could you elaborate?

[Kazekirimaru]

You elaborated enough for me, really.

[Kazekirimaru]

+ You haven't really said anything to sway me away from that since then, so, yeah.

[penguin_alien]

Tell the players all your theories, let us see if they're impressed.
We have passed one hundred posts; the game's in earnest, as you've guessed.

With nine alive, it takes five to lynch!

Vote Count 1.04:

Lord Mhork (L-5):
Malakittens (L-5):
Kazekirimaru (L-5):
bv310 (L-4): Maemuki
Maemuki (L-5):
shos (L-2): funkybike1, Lord Mhork, elleheathen
Grimgroove (L-5):
elleheathen (L-5):
funkybike1 (L-2): Kazekirimaru, Malakittens, shos

Not voting: Grimgroove, bv310

V/LA: Malakittens through 10/8

Deadline is in (expired on 2013-10-19 00:44:01)

[Lord Mhork]

@Mod: your italics broke

Fixed, thanks!

[Grimgroove]

GG 'loves me' because I 'loved him' in a game we just finished

It's already the second time you refer to a previously finished game we were in together and I just got here. My stance with regards to you in this game has got nothing to do with that game, and I'm not sure I like you trying to make it seem like it is.

In fact, I'm sure I don't like it.

But as Kazekirimaru correctly noted, I need more reads on other people before proceeding.

[shos]

The first time was a joyful welcome, the second was an explanation for it because it was somehow percieved as scummy.

[Grimgroove]

Aha, I see :p Scratch what I said in that regard now. The ";" in post [post]100^/post] made it seem like you were embarking on a different point when you mentioned our love affair.

[elleheathen]

Also if it is relevant, I calling people for l-1s gamestart all the time, so you're more than welcome to view my meta.

You have like 5k posts.
If you wanna point me in the direction of one of your games where you are town and where you label someone during gamestart as another town based solely on stating an L-1 vote, then yes, it would help. Otherwise, irrelevant.

Also,

what did I need to think about? was there any question directed at me?

This wasn't addressed to me but:

alright so since I can't see this discussion leading us anywhere good. what would you do if a cop had claimed a guilty on you?

Why wouldn't a discussion on you lead us anywhere good? Why is it better to discuss setup speculation and/or things that are irrelevant to the game at the moment (as we don't know wth we have) than it is to talk about things or people actually in the thread?

I'll actually give you a bit of the benefit of the doubt here and say that I think your post in 90 is in regards to this, here:

@elle: obviously when the subject is up in discussion that is null. But when he did that, it wasn't, and claiming that putting a vote in the buttom of a page is scummy is idiotic.

Except that it doesn't answer the questions - but I'm having a hard time understanding anything you said in that post - or why you're talking about someone else when I'm asking about

you

.

Do you understand that me calling someone Town now leads to my lynch? Do you understand how scum-led this wagon is? I can understand a vote on someone building a faulty case, someone who tries to look like he is scumhunting, but calling a Town read page 2? Niet.

Do you understand that it wasn't you calling someone town that is leading to you being run up (not lynched) but that you called someone town because he stated L-1, which is null at best? It looks like a throw away vote, especially because you couldn't even remember who it was that you had labelled as town?

And then instead of answering the two times you were asked who that townread was, you later vote your townread and then 'oh, that was my townread! lol'.

Eugh. I'm conflicted on the last because I could see town derping that out somehow but I can see scum avoidance in it, too.

[shos]

Search threads lol not posts. Look in the first few posts of each game, it happens in like 99% of them

Ill answer your post at home not from Phone because Ill answer lengthily

[elleheathen]

Mhork - Town

Let the wine of friendship never run dry.

Mostly an extension of my previous read. I'm not sure how much I trust it but it's gut and I'm going to go with it for now. His posting after the fact seems fine and most his reads line up with what I'm thinking.

What're your thoughts on Kaze?

Grimgroove - Leaning Town

It's based on a singular post - so it's pretty tentative atm but that entry post gave me super town vibes. Like/agree with most of the content there and just looking forward to more. (And I'll try to remember to italicize my song/quotes/references to make it more obvious. <3)

What do you make of shos recent explanation on his wording over the 'if i get lyched before or after etc' issue?

Malakittyyyy - Null

Still waiting on this 'interesting conversation in a bit' to be had between Mala/funky. Agree with the back pedaling bit and while her post in 83 addressing the townread from funky makes me

think

town... Idk, skeptical.

Mala, what's your take on so far? Got any reads on anyone besides funky?
What do you make of Mae?

PS - Happy Birthday! /confetti

Maemuki - Leaning Scum

61 seems fine until 79 and 99. It's the 'whatever' comment in 61 that bugs me because it dismisses they're own question and it seems like they don't care about the response they're asking about - but then they care again enough later to pursue it.

reads seems to stop - as if to say it is over though they know it has scarcely begun.

Like to hear their response to Mhork's question - along with some reads.

Also, does anyone else besides Grimgroove not know anything about Les Mis?

[Kazekirimaru]

Also, does anyone else besides Grimgroove not know anything about Les Mis?

-hand raise-

[shos]

-hand raise too-

@elle: in 84 you guys were talking about the strangeness of the vote by mhork on me. I don't find that vote strange at the moment, I simply believe it was a vote for pressure at the time; iirc, that was a vote with nothing said about it, ad immediately after another vote. that's what I do when I vote for pressure, so yeah.

Do you understand that it wasn't you calling someone town that is leading to you being run up (not lynched) but that you called someone town because he stated L-1, which is null at best? It looks like a throw away vote, especially because you couldn't even remember who it was that you had labelled as town?

And then instead of answering the two times you were asked who that townread was, you later vote your townread and then 'oh, that was my townread! lol'.

yes, I understand, and I think it's idiotic. as I've said, I'd understand if you'd go after someone who has a SCUMREAD based on what you think is wrong, but a TOWN read? how is that beneficial to scum; how is that hurting town; what does it lay base for in the future? this is entirely negligible. you said that it looks like a throwaway vote - well yes, I'd understand if it was a throwaway vote, but it WAS NOT A VOTE. everything you say is completely legit if that was a SCUMREAD. but it's not, and this changes things entirely.

The fact that I didn't remember who it was was mainly because it was like page 1, lol. It's not like I needed to revise and provide a list of scumreads and townreads, it's not like I was in the middle of some kind of investigation that I need to remember everything I ever thought and ISO myself. it was fucking page 2.

@119: not commenting on the townreads, agree with the null and leaning scum. but how comes you don't have a read on me yet? kinda lolled.

[Grimgroove]

Got some time to catch up tonight! Get ready

[shos]

lol in spirit of meme mafia I wanted to find a 'yo ready, where are you?!' meme but there isn't one ><

[funkybike1]

-hand raise-


We can talk about theory and such all day, but in the end we must reach a conclusion. And right now my conclusion is Shos/Maemuki. Shos has made lengthy but useless posts, and a day of discussion was wasted on the L-1 thing. He hasn't convinced me he's town yet, so I'm still voting him.

And Maemuki, you are a textbook example of active lurking. I won't waste time repeating what others have said. I agree with their arguments.