Xenogears Mafia (Game Over)

[Faster Than Light]

varsoon where are you I miss you

how do you feel about lynching nacho?

I'm against it.
Metal Sonic trusts you and is all for it.
I trust you and I am suspicious of the slot but hesitant to vote it over my highest scum-suspects. I don't know if scum nacho has the gall to say shit like "I'm gonna coast on my conf-town status". He refused to claim as a part of my gambit, and I don't know if that was because he didn't want to out himself as VT or if he was starting to suspect I could really divine his alignment via shenanigans. After I outed him as Vanilla, he claimed it, but that was under substantial pressure from more than just me.

How do you feel about lynching nacho?


I feel really uncomfortable about all of D5. TF's touting some power play, Antihero's being called into question by Waynegg and BROseidon, etc etc.
Gonna spend some time in some ISOs when I have the time to spend.

-V

[Faster Than Light]

i'm gonna continue to coast because i'm confirmed town

Vote: Nacho

I'm fairly fucking sure you killed Muff last night. Prepare to die. Also, like Mac's Desp wagon.

Can you explain your Nacho read a bit further? What would Nacho have to gain from killing zMuffin?

[Ghostlin]

Well, fuck. No one wanted me to claim the mason part. Oh, well. Fact is, with this adjoining role, I'm not going to fucking make it to XyLo.

[Ghostlin]

i'm gonna continue to coast because i'm confirmed town

Vote: Nacho

I'm fairly fucking sure you killed Muff last night. Prepare to die. Also, like Mac's Desp wagon.

Can you explain your Nacho read a bit further? What would Nacho have to gain from killing zMuffin?

Despite Nacho's (--snerk--) heavy lifting, there are few enough people that are bought into the Nacho wagon, and I have a misguided thought that the orgy of evidence fallacy is in play here. Or rather: why would Nacho kill people who know him? WIFOM if you're not a TVtropes buff.

This isn't the Nacho of Xenosaga. This is a Nacho that's content to go with popular wagons (like Mala and AJ and really Rach was a sacrificial lamb there). There are no Day 4 soliloquy. There's not even a modicum of passion here. He doesn't give a shit, and considering we're WINNING, that's really, really off. This is a Nacho that is using his reputation as almost a casual shield of arrogance.

Do I have 100% proof of what I just said? No, but I've also had a pretty good track record this game. Had you listened to me, we would of lynched Mala instead of Nick and be even closer to winning. In other words, this is a Nacho that's much lower key in the late game than he should be.

[Ghostlin]

If for some unknown fucking reason Nacho is town and he's just deliberately being this lazy, first off, really dude? "I'm obvtown so I'm going to coast?" Fucking REALLY?

Secondly, keeping him alive when he's an obvious PoE choice isn't helping Town really. He's self admitted to coasting and unlikely to change.

Thirdly, why was he so hard to lynch yesterday. If I had a lazy Nacho and was scum, I'd be on that wagon like shit on stink. If you could get rid of a player that is admittedly, as good as this game as almost anyone that's being lazy but could just pwn you late game, wouldn't you take it? We lynched AJ in -two pages-.

[notscience]

If it wasn't fucking obvious he's following suit with syry and taking jabs at me.

I'm having a shitty time this game thus far. I'm going to do a soft reset and try to refresh myself.

[BROseidon]

If it's only a soft-reset, which parts are you reseting less/not at all?

Also, wtf happened to mass claim.

[Ghostlin]

I claimed, Bro. Td claims next?

[BROseidon]

I saw that you claimed in a really dumb way >:C

TD and Mac remain, I think (I don't think Mac has full-claimed)

[Andrius]

Ghostlin crumbed mason to me a few days ago, hence the mastin/venmar read reversal.

[Trust Fund]

Wow. I'm reading AJ"s ISO. Some interesting stuff in there. He can't keep his scumreads straight. When I wake up I want to do some color coding of his posts, I have an idea.

[Faster Than Light]

varsoon where are you I miss you

how do you feel about lynching nacho?

I'm against it.
Metal Sonic trusts you and is all for it.
I trust you and I am suspicious of the slot but hesitant to vote it over my highest scum-suspects. I don't know if scum nacho has the gall to say shit like "I'm gonna coast on my conf-town status". He refused to claim as a part of my gambit, and I don't know if that was because he didn't want to out himself as VT or if he was starting to suspect I could really divine his alignment via shenanigans. After I outed him as Vanilla, he claimed it, but that was under substantial pressure from more than just me.

How do you feel about lynching nacho?


I feel really uncomfortable about all of D5. TF's touting some power play, Antihero's being called into question by Waynegg and BROseidon, etc etc.
Gonna spend some time in some ISOs when I have the time to spend.

-V

Ehhh clarification

im against nacho lynch

Nacho was counter wagon to AJscum thats why i feel that possible andyscum is pushing on nachotown

which is why if nacho gives the word to lynch andy i will do so because andy not reading nacho is </3


also Bro vs antihero back and forth was insightful

i find antihero the town and bro the scumm


but that would mean that I am wrong on one of my reads

for example

scum are in

<Nacho/Andy(1 only), TF, Bro(?), Desp(PoE. Also too much mudslinging)>

that is too much a scum read.

what if andy and nacho are both town

but nacho says andy cant read him

but nacho can read andy

but if nacho is scum he would fake a read on andy

this is so painful



if we wanna clear the nacho/andy thing nacho has to hammer andy so we get another scum down




but if we wanna be safe we can look at TF/Bro/Desp

I think TF might be a dumbass after all and not scum

i dont know will discuss with varsoon

[Faster Than Light]

Shit tier annie player, at your service.

I am above average tier annie player


I also play shaco


i am willing to get andy lynched because

1. he can crush scumz if town
2. he was sidetracking from the aj-scumwagon as scum
3. he cant read nacho ;-;


buttttt

if andy is town and nacho is town both die

if andy is scumz and nacho is town then good

if andy is town and nacho is scumz then good

mmm

but nacho reads andy as town

i read nacho as town

oh dear

as long as nacho gives the word to vote andy i will join wagon

but meanwhile lets wonder who is scum

this is what i meant

nacho counterwagon to ajscum is probably not scum but if scum can be determined by Andy's magic powers




actually

whoever was on the nacho wagon needs to be looked at ----> counterwagon to ajscum

[Faster Than Light]

Shit tier annie player, at your service.

I am above average tier annie player


I also play shaco


i am willing to get andy lynched because

1. he can crush scumz if town
2. he was sidetracking from the aj-scumwagon as scum
3. he cant read nacho ;-;


buttttt

if andy is town and nacho is town both die

if andy is scumz and nacho is town then good

if andy is town and nacho is scumz then good

mmm

but nacho reads andy as town

i read nacho as town

oh dear

as long as nacho gives the word to vote andy i will join wagon

but meanwhile lets wonder who is scum

this is what i meant

nacho counterwagon to ajscum is probably not scum but if scum can be determined by Andy's magic powers




actually

whoever was on the nacho wagon needs to be looked at ----> counterwagon to ajscum

[Faster Than Light]

Votecount 4.7 (Final)

[8] Aj The Epic (Nachomamma8, Faster Than Light, Desperado, waynegg, Mac, notscience, BROseidon, Trust Fund)

[4] Nachomamma8 (zMuffinMan, Ghostlin, TiphaineDeath, Andrius)

[2] Not Voting (Aj The Epic, Antihero)

With 14 alive, it is 8 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

A lynch has been reached! Scene coming when I've got the time to get it up but might not be for a few hours.

uhh the nacho wagon seems to be full of town though... the only unknown is andy


i will ask varsoon to get a read solidified


also

V/LA till Friday

[Trust Fund]

As syr pointed out, it's very possible that since AJ was a traitor, it was a split wagon on scum and scum.


Also, MS, I don't care what you call me so long as you don't go getting modkilled again like in death's diner.


Waynegg: I think it's time to break out the scumputer. You mastered using it yet? I'll have the vote counts colored in tomorrow evening.

[Faster Than Light]

As syr pointed out, it's very possible that since AJ was a traitor, it was a split wagon on scum and scum.


Also, MS, I don't care what you call me so long as you don't go getting modkilled again like in death's diner.


Waynegg: I think it's time to break out the scumputer. You mastered using it yet? I'll have the vote counts colored in tomorrow evening.

Hey cabd, you rock. but your play in this game is lackluster. I've seen better play from you bro, good thing you're stepping it up

and its unlikely that it was a split wagon on scum and scum. AJ pubclaimed traitor after claiming bpv. "my role pm says there's a traitor in this game!" "my role pm says i'm a bullet proof!"

well at least he wasn't lying.

but yeah thats pretty much a traitor claim so im pretty sure scum would have seen that if they knew the existence of a traitor

[Faster Than Light]

maybe Metal Sonic and I have different reads

You quoted him and said yeah you're probably right. Now you disown Sonic's reads?

Also my entire response to the rest is: see syr's post.

Muffin was really obviously scum mason hunting. Speaking of other mason still needs to step forward.

maybe TF + Andy is the scum

yes that look possible from the back-and-forth just the page before

also it is cool that the scum love shooting VTs isnt that great

This.
I mentioned this before.
Maybe people will listen to me now?


Still think that TF is scum.


-V

Hold on, what was that?

You quoted him and said

yeah you're probably right.

I mean like man, how do you even slip like that? I hold you in high regard, come help the town hunt scum, instead of getting hunted yourself.



also no I'm not gonna get modkilled with varsoon here <3

slandaar was the scum in the dethy i wouldn't have guessed that! he played a good game!

[Andrius]

Nacho was counter wagon to AJscum thats why i feel that possible andyscum is pushing on nachotown

which is why if nacho gives the word to lynch andy i will do so because andy not reading nacho is </3

then lynch me
nacho hammers

like

nacho is being way too passive this game
even on his read for me
and yes ofc he's going to fake a townread on me as scum
what else CAN he do?
he scumreads me ---> insta-andy lynch
andy flips town
he looks hella' bad

so he cant scumread me
so he townreads me
and does a bit of the paranoia and undermining
(like he's been doing)

like
there is no love going on at all
there is no town/town
there is no TRIUMVIRATE or even pretense of us both being town from either of us

I really don't think he's town
and if you're unwilling to OBVTOWN me for the RM lynch (which was actually a counterwagon) and willing to OBVTOWN nacho for the AJ lynch (where the "counterwagon" was really not) you really need to reevaluate how you evaluate OBVTOWN by counterwagons

still think aj/nacho both being scum is plausible
the obv counterwagon does give me pause BUT

BUT
me/ghostlin/mastin all being SCUMCHO cannot be wrong

[Andrius]

regardless
I need to be dead before nacho lynch
because he will talk to me and be all THEN DONT KILL ME and make me sad he is dying and will make me regret lynching a brother like him
but man
this is the best way
the best the only way
because he's NACHO

and I cannot compete with that level of literacy and skill in a headtohead

[Andrius]

I don't have magic powers
I explode
I go boom
someone goes boom
profit

unless you meant my charming personality in which case meh

[Andrius]

TOWN
Ghostlin

Saki

mastin2

Venmar
FasterThanLight
Desperado

mutleyddmc

muffinman

mac
TiphanieDeath

SCUM

RachMarie

nickthename

Trust Fund
BROseidon

AJ The Epic

Nachomamma8


NACHO, I LEAVE IT ALL TO YOU

BeautyandtheBeast

Malakittens

SoundofSilence

COME INSIDE AND BE AFRAID OF THIS IMPRESSIVE MESS IVE MADE

[Andrius]

that list was made forgetting about the shitload of prs we also have claimed that I forgot about




lol

[Andrius]

still don't think this many investigative prs can all be town
still wonder about mutley's alignment
because that shot was literally the only thing he had going for him and it was a TOWNSLOT he vigged- yes it was saki and he's a useless fuck but like that's great scum motivation for a 1shot vig or something idk

[Andrius]

also im not going to bother with Ghostlin's breadcrumb to me unless someone is really really curious