Mini 1496: The Cash Cabd (Game Over)


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Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:02 pm

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i'm also inclined to believe that beast's willingness to die today is a minor town tell at least, since he realised his slot is probably screwed anyway. i'm thinking the chance that was a gambit is unlikely.

so today i'm going to be focusing on rereading {titus, ns, prohawk} mostly. i'm thinking nacho and gif are very likely town here, and i'm still thinking AK doesn't make a lot of sense as scum (especially with nati, after the way the start of D2 played out, didn't really look like scum talking to each other).
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Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:04 pm

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also i spent the entirety of D2 attempting to create links to nati, which i was only partially analysing at the time, so i need to go back and read that again
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Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:08 pm

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In post 1147, Rail Tracer wrote:encryptor is possible if there was a shred of truth to nati's final post. but i'm thinking that was mostly wifom
Knowing Cabd, encryptor is highly likely, and I am willing to bet the wifom from Nati's post is the part about his buddy not posting in the day-chat (pointing to Mario/Beast)

Re: Artemis, you need to look at her wagon hop from D1. She didn't want to be on the Dan lynch for a reason.
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Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:12 pm

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ok. i'll look at it. in the mean time, you should look at how AK interacted with nati, especially at the start of D2, and tell me how likely you think that is to come from scum buddies (especially if you think encryptor is a very real possibility).

the way they talked to each other, especially AK getting all antsy about nati not helping them lynch NS, didn't really look like scum-scum interactions to me.

plus the batshit crazy reads they've had all game didn't strike me as being particularly scum-motivated.
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Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:16 pm

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If I understand encryptor correctly they just allow for day talk?
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Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:46 pm

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In post 1133, Rail Tracer wrote:
titus wrote:The end of that day made me think RT and SoS quickhammered their buddy.
interesting. unless you think both of us are scum (making this game 9:4 lol), you must think at least one of us legitimately thought that any further discussion D3 was pointless.
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You were hardly obvtown with the end of day 3.

I cannot see why discussion was cut short. We could have seen who defended Brian. We should have seen if Cephir was trying to get a mislynch or legitimately messed up reading.

Two players rapidly cutting a day short without discussing it makes me think one or both is likely scum. The town if any is more lkely a bullheaded my way or th highway type.

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Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:50 pm

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I like AK because I am generally agreeing with everything AK has done so far. Someone asked me that.
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Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:11 pm

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In post 1156, Titus wrote:I like AK because I am generally agreeing with everything AK has done so far. Someone asked me that.
Tell me what AK has done so far. And don't take too long.
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Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:17 pm

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In post 1153, Rail Tracer wrote:at the start of D2, and tell me how likely you think that is to come from scum buddies (especially if you think encryptor is a very real possibility).
Quickly read through an Art + Nati joint-ISO and am not really seeing what you seem to be... which posts do you think could have been better suited for day-chat instead of an in-thread conversation?
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Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:55 pm

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Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:09 pm

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In post 1159, Rebel Without a Pulse wrote:
Vote: Prohawk
Because I totally threw this game by hard-bussing my team all in a row amirite? Was this vote placed by Nacho-perchance?
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Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:16 pm

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In post 841, Titus wrote:This should be alarming. I read this and no less than three people have my slot as PoE scum. It is too damn early for PoE scum as we don't even have a flip. Is hat the best people do? Use your brains. That's a scum pushed train. Only scum have enough information to do a PoE right now.

As for ns, his slot is obvscum to me. I really don't understand how anyone reads him as town. His accusations at the end of the day were shit about not scumhunting despite attempting to get as much inormation as I could.

Cephir, you have a section on 777 regarding me and Natirasha. I didn't understand that point. You also have me as PoE scum but most of the things you hav from my slot suggest town.

Rail Tracer, why are you pressing so much on read fishing. I don't like that.

I like AK and ProHawk as town(not sure who he replaced but his posts seem town). I can see BS as scum with RT. I am near certain NS is scum. SoS is an uncomfortable null read. I will need to figure out that slot fast.
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In post 1156, Titus wrote:I like AK because I am generally agreeing with everything AK has done so far. Someone asked me that.
Tell me what AK has done so far. And don't take too long.

AK's reads have been spot on so far. He didn't hurry to lynch DB. He's had suspicion that NS was scum. His posts seemed well reasoned. I disagree with him thinking RT was town but he seems pretty town to me.
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Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:22 pm

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In post 1161, Titus wrote:AK's reads have been spot on so far.
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Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:33 pm

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prohawk wrote:which posts do you think could have been better suited for day-chat instead of an in-thread conversation?
i'll go back over it when i have the energy to, which is not right now.
In post 1162, ProHawk wrote:
In post 1161, Titus wrote:AK's reads have been spot on so far.
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Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:36 pm

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i'm going to assume titus unintentionally left out the fact that brian and natirasha were among AK's stronger town reads, and cephy was one of AK's strongest scum reads.
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Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:43 pm

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I do not recall Brian or Natirasha being a town read of AK. I don't have a problem with a Cephy scum read (wanted to verify on Day 3).
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Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:54 pm

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to quote just a few of the posts that you apparently missed where AK made their reads on them blatantly obvious...

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In post 898, artemiskitty wrote:
In post 895, Sound of Silence wrote:What are you thinking about Nati?

(I know)
i do think he is town.

RT - brought up some good points, about him saying that he had HP as town... but yet, still put him in the 'need to hear from pile' as opposed to his town pile.. way back when.

but i think Nat's posts come across as genuine.. and like i said, his 875 kinda sounds like defeated town.. the whole "so be it"

it is definitely helping that he's got NS as scum. because i very much think NS is scum. if i'm wrong on that... i will have to re-adjust. but another reason i have Titus as town, is his take on NS as obvscum, as well... that combined with the fact of fuz's aTe.

what are your thoughts on Nat? you've been kinda back and forth/unsure?
In post 924, artemiskitty wrote:i was saying to Prohawk, in response to his question on why Brian is town to me. is that i have liked all of Brian's posts. i still think Brian is town. and i'm partially sus of PH for pushing a wagon/lynch vote on him.
In post 1026, artemiskitty wrote:(NS, prohawk, cephir and possibly SOS) is my pile. everyone else is town... i think
In post 1034, artemiskitty wrote:i guess my issue is, is that i have all of Nat, Brian, and Titus, as town. as well as Rebel and RT. This is why i'm getting my back up with you.. you seem just too uncertain on all of those players.


tl;dr the only flip they've
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been right about is DB (and perhaps dessew, since they called him town at one point, except their last post was saying dessew isn't a town read).

so when you say that you like AK because their reads have been spot on, i chuckled a little.
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Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:26 pm

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Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:40 pm

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@Titus: no one would've defended brian yesterday even if you waited.
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Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:50 am

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I think Titus is the last scum. They are reaching for poor logic and complaining about a quick lynch on confirmed scum(probably mad they couldn't get town points by distancing themselves or something).

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Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:28 am

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@Rail Tracer, those didn't stand out to me because they agreed wih them but for Brian. I see a clear thought process.

@Beast, how do you know there's only one scum left? Thete could be more. This is hardly an open setup.

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Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:30 am

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Mini norm usually have 3 scum (or 2~3 scum with SK).
Also what's your opinion on inno result on beast?
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Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:16 am

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What inno result?

With hypo cop, I would expect gf or roleblocker. Gf means an inno is worthless.
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Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:17 am

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In post 1142, Rail Tracer wrote:i'm an odd-night cop, first night was natirasha, last night was beast (inno).
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Post Post #1174 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:19 am

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In post 1152, ProHawk wrote:
In post 1147, Rail Tracer wrote:encryptor is possible if there was a shred of truth to nati's final post. but i'm thinking that was mostly wifom
Knowing Cabd, encryptor is highly likely, and I am willing to bet the wifom from Nati's post is the part about his buddy not posting in the day-chat (pointing to Mario/Beast)

Re: Artemis, you need to look at her wagon hop from D1. She didn't want to be on the Dan lynch for a reason.
What's the chance of GODFATHER encrpytor?
(Just read over Nati's post regarding daytalk. I don't think he was lying there.)
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