Xenogears Mafia (Game Over)

Andrius · Post Post #4900 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:40 am

fuck
meant that to be part of large post.

Andrius · Post Post #4901 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:40 am

varsoon wrote:yeah andy

one of you is scum

but it takes a sacrifice

a sacrifice from andy

so you can die together with nacho

and not leave any emotional baggage behind

because it will break my heart to lynch nacho too

Offer has been open since D1.
HAMMER ME HOME BOYS

nacho wrote:I currently don't like that BRO is pushing on ANTIHERO after he claimed cop because he's not "100%" confirmed; it reeks of him trying to outmaneuver the townflips of the few mislynches he has room to get and break into the confirmed town block.

nacho has a point here though

the counterpoint, obviously, is if scum have people in the CONFTOWNBLOC that means they can just do what nacho is saying and lynch NONCONFTOWN until allhellbreakslooseth.

nacho wrote:Andrius is claiming a role that says "I CAN CONFIRM SOMEONE AS TOWN IF YOU LYNCH ME", which is something no scum ever said in his situation.

the counterpoint is obv, that scum killing a townie isn't supergreat

i mean obv, a scum bomb/vengeful makes little sense in this setup (esp. bomb)

nacho wrote:SCUM TRAITOR GODFATHER ENABLER WHO OBVIOUSLY ENABLES ALL OF THIS HORRIBLY BROKEN SCUM POWER ROLES is dead.

still think this is stretching like hell

nacho wrote:The only way town can win this game is if they stay within the lines and don't lynch confirmed town.

...

andy wrote:if scum have people in the CONFTOWNBLOC that means they can just do what nacho is saying and lynch NONCONFTOWN until allhellbreakslooseth.

In post 4887, BROseidon wrote:Deciding to run a cop-crumb gambit wouldn't require knowledge of the godfather.

And I'm not even considering lynching Anti until you and Desp are gone.

this is true
means little tbh

In post 4896, TiphaineDeath wrote:i'm the emp cain. I'm a vt.

speaking of coasting...

Andrius · Post Post #4902 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:43 am

TD please give me a reads list.

pls?

Andrius · Post Post #4903 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:50 am

ONE MOD'S TAKE ON A ROLE:

A Split Personality is a Conditional Godfather Bulletproof Ability Enabler Traitor.

Conditional could mean whether/not he's recruited. Not sure what it modifies (GODFATHER BULLETPROOF being the most immediate) but I'd guess that he's only GODFATHER BULLETPROOF while non-recruited and his whole THERE BE A TRAITOR OUT THERE was an attempt to get people to recruit him.

But that won't happen while there are shitloads of CONFTOWN that need killing.
Which really makes me wonder if the saki kill was scum-driven, sent in before they knew of the masons/cops THUS SUPPORTING A TINFOIL I HAVE.

Traitor is obv. How that works isn't.
ABILITY ENABLER - Could enable his own team- could enable abilities on both sides- could enable one common ability that both sides use (DayTalk). Who knows?

Probably conditionally bulletproof with the godfather immunity being bulletproof-ness in particular (which means town MUST have some killing power so that almostconfirms mutley). Ability Enabler we'll not know until the end but probably does something inbetween ENABLES SCUMROLES and ENABLES TOWNROLES.

Traitor.

tl;dr its probably not as strong as nacho thinks it is, and him being BULLETPROOF confirms that there is SOME TOWN POWER OUT THERE that merits being immune to kills.

tl;dr2: mutley is probtown unless someone else wants to claim some killing ability (mine doesn't count for obv reasons!)

Andrius · Post Post #4904 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:52 am

omg omg omg

SPLIT PERSONALITY. HE IS ID.
ID, EGO, SUPER-EGO???

HE IS SPLIT BECAUSE HE IS TRAITOR. HE IS CONDITIONAL WHETHER OR NOT HE IS RECRUITED AS HE IS SPLIT. EITHER HE IS STRONGER WITH THE OTHER PARTS OR HE IS WEAKER WITH THEM.

Groupscum almost certainly knew he existed since EGO/SUPEREGO (bit of tinfoil) so clearly they judged him not a priority shot given MASTIN AND THE MASONS.
And cops.

Andrius · Post Post #4905 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:55 am

though it sounds remotely like SUPEREGO might be town from the wikia

BORK STOP I DONT EVEN OWN A PLAYSTATION CANT DO FLAVOR RESEARCH

BROseidon · Post Post #4906 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:30 am

Andy that spec is great and all, but how does it help us lynch scum?

Andrius · Post Post #4907 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:43 am

In post 4906, BROseidon wrote:Andy that spec is great and all, but how does it help us lynch scum?

tl;dr its probably not as strong as nacho thinks it is, and him being BULLETPROOF confirms that there is SOME TOWN POWER OUT THERE that merits being immune to kills.

tl;dr2: mutley is probtown unless someone else wants to claim some killing ability (mine doesn't count for obv reasons!)

Groupscum almost certainly knew he existed since EGO/SUPEREGO (bit of tinfoil) so clearly they judged him not a priority shot given MASTIN AND THE MASONS.
And cops.

Andrius · Post Post #4908 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:53 am

14. notscience
7. Ghostlin

2. Andrius
16. waynegg (Mutleyddmc Skullduggery)

6. Faster Than Light
20. Antihero (Venmar)

5. Desperado

19. Trust Fund
4. BROseidon

8. Mac
18. TiphaineDeath
10. Nachomamma8

Town to Scum Scale, Starting with

CONFTOWN to
REASONABLY CONFTOWN to
PERHAPS CONFTOWN to
TOWN to
BOTH RELY ON TF's ALIGNMENT to
PROBSCUM

BROseidon · Post Post #4909 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:59 am

How is Anti more likely town than the people he investigated? If Anti is town, Mac and TD are town unless there's another godfather in play.

Andrius · Post Post #4910 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:00 pm

A flipped Godfather also makes the cops look good.

Andrius · Post Post #4911 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:00 pm

yeah uh I forgot exactly how his and tf and ftl's roles works so im brb-reading and will update accordingly

Andrius · Post Post #4912 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:13 pm

14. notscience - Modconfirmed Townie
7. Ghostlin - MASON

2. Andrius - SUPASAINT
16. waynegg (Mutleyddmc Skullduggery) - 1/2shot? Vig

20. Antihero (Venmar) - Modified TownCop (can only get 2 Innos)
8. Mac - 1shot Neighborizer, TOWN through Antihero
18. TiphaineDeath - Vanilla, TOWN through Antihero

6. Faster Than Light - Nonconsecutive Nilla Cop

5. Desperado

19. Trust Fund - 1shot Vanillizer, confirmed NONVANILLA through FTL
4. BROseidon -

10. Nachomamma8 - Vanilla, confirmed VANILLA through FTL

NEW LIST

CONFTOWN to
TOWN ON THEIR OWN to
TOWN BECAUSE ANTIHERO to
TOWN BECAUSE CONNECTIONS to
LEFTOVER Pt. I to
DEPENDS ON TF to
NACHO

tl;dr:

ns and Ghost are town through mod. Wayne is town through deadscum.

Mac and TD are town if Antihero is town. Antihero is town if, well, Antihero is town.

FTL is town unless he's scum with Nacho or TF.
BRO is scum with TF if TF is scum.
But as you can see there are CONNECTIONS and I doubt there are more than 2 scum remaining.
So a FTL/TF/BRO combo is probably out.
Desperado is a leftover.
The only thing Nacho has going for him is that VARSOON outed him as Vanilla well before Nacho claimed it. (I think.)

Andrius · Post Post #4913 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:14 pm

technically the antihero group should be above me and wayne but that's not worth reposting

with the amount of cops and stuff the scumteam is PROBABLY hurt more by RM's death than I initially thought LOL AM I CONFIRED TOWN YET GUYS? GUYS?

Andrius · Post Post #4914 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:17 pm

14. notscience - Modconfirmed Townie
7. Ghostlin - MASON

20. Antihero (Venmar) - Modified TownCop (can only get 2 Innos)
8. Mac - 1shot Neighborizer, TOWN through Antihero
18. TiphaineDeath - Vanilla, TOWN through Antihero

2. Andrius - SUPASAINT
16. waynegg (Mutleyddmc Skullduggery) - 1/2shot? Vig

---------------THE LYNCHABILITY THRESHOLD--------------

6. Faster Than Light - Nonconsecutive Nilla Cop

5. Desperado

19. Trust Fund - 1shot Vanillizer, confirmed NONVANILLA through FTL
4. BROseidon -

10. Nachomamma8 - Vanilla, confirmed VANILLA through FTL

Mac · Post Post #4915 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:22 pm

full claim: kahn wong, possessed warrior.

jack of all trades. 1 shot neighbourize, 1 shot track and 1 shot commute.

just for updates since people haven't quite gathered that im not just a neighbourizer.

Andrius · Post Post #4916 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:28 pm

In post 4915, Mac wrote:full claim: kahn wong, possessed warrior.

jack of all trades. 1 shot neighbourize, 1 shot track and 1 shot commute.

just for updates since people haven't quite gathered that im not just a neighbourizer.

this is not a complete claim
try again

Trust Fund · Post Post #4917 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:29 pm

Spoiler: Day 1

Trust Fund · Post Post #4918 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:30 pm

In post 4917, Trust Fund wrote:Vote Count 1.13

[6] RachMarie (zMuffinMan, Andrius, Desperado, Saki, Aj the Epic, Waynegg)
[5] Andrius (notscience, Trust Fund, Malakittens, RachMarie, Faster Than Light)
[3] Waynegg (Ghostlin, Nachomamma8, TiphaineDeath)
[2] mastin2 (BROseidon, nickthename)
[1] BROseidon (Sound of Silence)
[1] nickthename (mastin2)
[1] TiphaineDeath (Antihero)

[2] Not Voting (BeautyAndTheBeast, Mac)

Vote Count 1.14

[6] RachMarie (zMuffinMan, Andrius, Desperado, Aj the Epic, Waynegg, Nachomamma8)
[5] Andrius (notscience, Trust Fund, Malakittens, RachMarie, Faster Than Light)
[2] mastin2 (BROseidon, nickthename)
[2] Waynegg (Ghostlin, TiphaineDeath)
[2] nickthename (mastin2, BeautyAndTheBeast)
[1] BROseidon (Sound of Silence)
[1] Saki (Saki)
[1] TiphaineDeath (Antihero)

[1] Not Voting (Mac)

These two vote counts make FTL-scum veeeeery unlikely. I don't see varsoon-scum piling onto Andy right after two others hop on, regardless of andy's actual alignment.

Antihero · Post Post #4919 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:20 pm

In post 4897, Antihero wrote:wait a minute...

why are we lynching BROseidon before Desperado?

Antihero · Post Post #4920 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:21 pm

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Desperado

Andrius · Post Post #4921 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:22 pm

mac sure is taking forever to claim night actions

Trust Fund · Post Post #4922 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:27 pm

In post 4894, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 4893, BROseidon wrote:And Anti and TF both come into consideration at the same time.

"Why the actual fuck would you not lynch me WAY before the un-counter-claimed cop?" is my response to this since you were curious, nacho.

Trust Fund · Post Post #4923 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:28 pm

[quote="In post 4880, Nachomamma8

In post 4832, Trust Fund wrote:
In post 4808, Nachomamma8 wrote:i'm gonna continue to coast because i'm confirmed town
I laughed. Do tell me how exactly you intend to prove this.

Well I can't go about doing this until people actually start talking to me. What do you think AJ's role enabled?[/quote]

Unless this is a "Hi guys I got a PR activated because we lynched AJ's ass into the ground" statement, then... it's a big steaming pile of "who knows"?

BROseidon · Post Post #4924 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:42 pm

Andy he already claimed the non-commute ones, and he really shouldn't claim on the commute...