In post 121, shos wrote:-hand raise too-
@elle: in 84 you guys were talking about the strangeness of the vote by mhork on me. I don't find that vote strange at the moment, I simply believe it was a vote for pressure at the time; iirc, that was a vote with nothing said about it, ad immediately after another vote. that's what I do when I vote for pressure, so yeah.
Do you understand that it wasn't you calling someone town that is leading to you being run up (not lynched) but that you called someone town because he stated L-1, which is null at best? It looks like a throw away vote, especially because you couldn't even remember who it was that you had labelled as town?
And then instead of answering the two times you were asked who that townread was, you later vote your townread and then 'oh, that was my townread! lol'.
yes, I understand, and I think it's idiotic. as I've said, I'd understand if you'd go after someone who has a SCUMREAD based on what you think is wrong, but a TOWN read? how is that beneficial to scum; how is that hurting town; what does it lay base for in the future? this is entirely negligible. you said that it looks like a throwaway vote - well yes, I'd understand if it was a throwaway vote, but it WAS NOT A VOTE. everything you say is completely legit if that was a SCUMREAD. but it's not, and this changes things entirely.
The fact that I didn't remember who it was was mainly because it was like page 1, lol. It's not like I needed to revise and provide a list of scumreads and townreads, it's not like I was in the middle of some kind of investigation that I need to remember everything I ever thought and ISO myself. it was fucking page 2.
@119: not commenting on the townreads, agree with the null and leaning scum. but how comes you don't have a read on me yet? kinda lolled.
Sorry - meant a throw away
read.
Scum throw out reads like that to either look town or to give their partners some towncred on their posting. The fact that it was a read on stating an L-1 was what I found questionable - because obviously, I disagree with that and find it null, at best.
You justify it with your own reasoning which made me think of you as more town but you do so in such a way as to reference an L-1 made
without
stating it, which as I explain, isn't the same thing, the avoidance of which makes me think scum.
You say it was 'fucking page 2' but from you not remembering who you thought was town when we were only on 'fucking page 2' was what added to me thinking that it was indeed a throw away read. But your explanation over it in the above quoted post seems about as careless as the rest of your posting, and makes me think town again.
As you can see, and as I stated in my previous post to you - I'm conflicted.
This
is why I don't have a solid read on you yet - because I'm in the process of sorting you. My vote on you says that I think you're scummy - but since I can see some of this coming from town that I want more to go on than the L-1 issue, despite the fact that you said I'd find that you do this in 99% of your games and I couldn't see it in one. (I checked your other recent game that I won't mention because rules and 226, 1465, 1462, and 1432 - nothing.)
Part of me says 'Lynch all liars' but there's another part that can't pinpoint exactly
why
- but this doesn't feel right. Hence, questioning and watching which votes go where, how you and others respond, etc.
What are your reads so far? Can you give us a reads list of who you have as towniest to scummiest when you get a chance? I'd like to see where your head is at.
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