Newbie 1436 ~ Game Over

[Cabd]

If a replacement isn't found when the timer hits 3 days I will freeze it. As of now the deadline remains the same because you have over 9 days on the clock.

Told ya guys.

[Malakittens]

2.10

With 7 alive it's 4 votes to lynch.

Voting for:

*Cabd - notscience [1]
*Fferyllt -
*Bert -
*Kazekirimaru - Bert [1]
*agi102 -
*Sakura Hana -
*notscience -

Not voting: agi102, Fferyllt, Kazekirimaru, Sakura Hana, Cabd [5]

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2013-10-21 00:03:00)

Mod Notes: Kazekirimaru is requesting replacement

[fferyllt]

In the meantime, ffery, what do you think about the fact that notsci is still voting me?

Probably being a stubborn fuck. Probably null wrt alignment.

[Cabd]

Well like I can think of exactly one reason town notsci would be keeping this up so long. And I don't like that angle nor think it's very likely soooo...

[fferyllt]

Yeah maybe.

[Cabd]

You being this cryptic is not something I usually associate with you, ffery. something up?

[fferyllt]

Too many irons in the fire tonight. I still like the stubborn fuck reason, but I see your line of argument. I'm not going to have time to reread/rethink for a few hours.

[Cabd]

I'm up for lynching either agi or Kaze i think they make sense as scum team, considering both would be the most newbies here which would make sense with the claimed VT NK, however I can also see scum doing that mislead us, and the only person i think would pull that would be either ffery or ns, and im townreading ffery...

BTW there's a non-zero chance that it's you and ffery, setting a kaze flip up now and then a me-mislynch in lylo, but it's so close to zero that i'm willing to hand you the win on a silver platter if such is the case.

Like legit the tradeoff of losing a towngame would be worth it to see you both pull a cabd-level gambit like that.

I am sad laying here in bed that this post went several hours without a snarky reply by either of you.

[fferyllt]

I didn't even see the post. I better go back and see what else I missed.

Someday, Sakura and I may do something like that as a scum team. Someday.

Don't hold your breath.

[notscience]

Case for Cabd coming up later.

[Cabd]

It had better be a sakura-cabd scumteam case because otherwise youre wasting your effort.

[notscience]

It will be. Typing it up now.

[Cabd]

It had better be good, because I'm sitting here with glee trying to think of what you'll manage to cook up. Don't disappoint me.

[notscience]

Discrediting my case before I even get the chance to post it?

Going to five guys, will finish it when i get home.

[Cabd]

Well given that it's on me, who is town, and sakura, who is town, yes, yes I am.

[Cabd]

Well to be fair there's as before mentioned a .1% chance of sakura scum but nah.

[notscience]

THE CABD CASE, ABRIDGED

Part one- VCA.

Spoiler: VCA case part woo!

TSO (naked votes are bad and you should feel bad)

Here's his first vote and reasoning of the game. These are abnormally weak, don't you think? And let's look 70 posts earlier-

Hey cabd, you should OMGUS TSO.

Then, around deadline, we get this-

UNVOTE:


Will have to vote from my phone, but i'll be around. I hate deadlines.

This is weird. Why? Because he didn't NEED to unvote. It looks like he was trying to cover up pushing a lynch on town. He was the first there. He got called out for not having a big case, and said "well damn I don't think I'll have time to make one" and then that unvote before deadline, as if he was unsure of his read (who he had spent most of d1 calling scum, btw.

Somewhere in between those is a vote on Bert. This vote on bert that he didn't even follow through with had a better reasoning than his TSO votes did. However, there are some significant similarities on the people he's voted.

D2-

What's wrong, notsci? Freaking out that all your mislynch shots just vanished into a plume of smoke?

Guess so.

Kthnx bai

VOTE: notsci

Hm, that's funny. What's the correlation between these votes? Everyone who has called him scum. Recent past, I saw Cabd talking to Saki on Site chat. Saki was apparently on to scum-Cabd but noone listened to him so it didn't matter- HOWEVER- Cabd said that if Saki actually posed a threat he'd take him out.

The people who have posed threats? They've been taken out. More on this is the NKA section.

Now, this below post. Doesn't this look familiar to his behaviour towards me? It looks too cookie cutter. Too forced.

It turns out, if you take gatorade powder, but use vodka instead of water because fuck water, that the end result is really good.

In other news, i'm still town as fuck, so screw you TSO. You won't be able to mislynch me.

NKA

Spoiler: NKA section woo!

GM's nightkill. Remember how I said that wouldn't provide information? I looked back at GM's ISO. Look at this nugget-

Well I think this is Town v Town unless one of {Sakura, T S O} flips Town in which case Cabd (tinysmall chance ffery) is Scum.

Now, remember what I said in the VCA section about Saki? I'd find GM a threat as scum. Lets look at Cabd's reactions to the GM kill-

Possibly.

What happens to your piles if TSO is scum? Town? You still feel the same as your last post about it?

As I mentioned, I'll be looking at you if he flips Town.

Everyone awakes, but one. Goodmorning,

Vanilla Townie

, is found sound asleep.

Given the caliber of our player list this screams framejob.

.but the VT kill is kinda confusing all the same

???

You think Scum know who the PRs are?

Now this.

1) This looks forced, like he went looking for this and found that tidbit on the offchance someone else did and decided that WKing ffery would be better in the long run.
2) This just looks forced. It looks like Cabd trying to size up if Bert poses a threat to his scumteam.

His interactions with Sakura

Spoiler: Sakura reasons yay!

So, let's chat about the gambit, shall we.

Sakura has a sudden inno on Cabd. Okay. Now, lets see. Sakura's crumb. So, lets talk about what scum cabd would do in a situation like this. Sakura's trying to improve lately, am I right? So, what way better to improve then to get advice and attempt a gambit with someone who does gambits all the fucking time? Here's how it looks to me. It looks like this gambit was a ploy to not only discredit me for pushing Cabd's wagon, but inadvertantly call my reads shit because the cop and the clear happen to be BOTH of my scumreads. The way the gambit worked basically attacked me. Why? Because this gambit would throw me off, make me doubt my abilities. Basically, this ended up with me confused as all fuck (see: me after the gambit). And then, there's a post "if you're town then you'll just ignore it" which attempts to subtly implant the thought of me-scum in peoples minds based on the fact that MY PRIMARY SCUMREADS are the two involved in the gambit. Therefore, I'd HAVE to sort it out because that makes or breaks my reads list.

Fuck. Bert why would you out this.

Fine.

I'm cop, inno on sakura, she noticed the crumbs and tried to flip the claims around so she'd get nightkilled tonight instead.

Now, let's look at what Cabd got from this gambit, shall we?

Oh, that's funny. His gambit didn't net him any alignment info, while it netted ffery a townfeel on me which suddenly cabd sees? And he also went in and basically said he's going to lynch me out of that, then all of a sudden I'm town? No.

Now, let's go to the Sakura/Cabd/Ffery "townbloc"

Hmm i'm more interested in townhunting among the remaining 4 to be honest. We got a townbloc of {Me, Cabd, ffery} if we find 1 more is auto-win (If we mislynch, scum hits one of the 4, there's still 3 conftown for a lylo)

You know what's funny? Sakura's been tossing around the word conftown in related to those two, then posts THAT. What does that tell you? What scum in their right mind would kill someone in the pool for lynches with them over two conftown? Unless of course, the scum were the ones trying to decree themselves as conftown.

1) Tomorrow's most likely mass claim day.
2) If I get NK'd you guys will have more info, and if I don't I'll have more info.
3) We're forming a townbloc for an auto-win which funnily enough ns and bert have been trying to dissipate. <- this can wait to be analyzed.

Throwing this in as well. Kinda funny how the two people who she's trying to insinuate to be scum and saying "this can be analyzed" and she's voting neither of us. Lets look at two. Setting herself up for tomorrow much? She's basically piggybacking on everyone saying to leave it for tomorrow.

Cabd when people scumread him

Spoiler:

He's going through extreme lengths to call anyone who say he's scum wrong or eliminate them (see: everything).

What happened when Ffery scumread him? "Wow, first game ffery misreads me."
GM?- Dead.
TSO?- Easy ML to push with minimal effort and appear to just assist the deadline lynch.
Me? This gambit designed to throw me off.

What else has he done for me? Remember the bit about me not knowing his scum meta? He always changes it. That was a weak attempt to throw me off.

Cabd about Agi

Spoiler: Agi stuff

D1- He's essentially an inno child+he is the mislynch fodder of choice (a mentality common of scum in newbies, he at one point asks ffery if I have a scummeta of handing out townreads to newbies, when he pretty much did that.) What's the best way to treat mislynch fodder as scum? Whiteknight the fuck out of them for towncred.
Sakura- He's prob scum
D2- Wait no he might be scum
*insert scum theatre between cabd and sakura about Agi*

Strange, huh? Almost premeditated. If anyone's seen a Cabd mafiaQT, he finds them INVALUABLE.

Here's most of it, but I won't be back until later than expected.

[notscience]

ugh fucked up the spoiler

MALA CAN YOU MAKE THE SPOILER TAG UNDER CABD WHEN PEOPLE SCUMREAD HIM to [*spoiler=Cabd smash, RAWR*]

[Cabd]

<---this is me giving zero fucks about your case because lol

[Cabd]

You really just want to make us claim don't you?

It's okay if you want it to happen, just say so.

[Cabd]

Using a drunkpost to compare to my stance on you was pretty good tho. Points granted.

[Cabd]

Like unless you're legit counterclaiming here, you're pulling a titus.

[fferyllt]

I'm thinking Syr's theorem applies.

[Cabd]

Oh? I was thinking more the GFT

[Cabd]

GIFT, rather.