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Post Post #300 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:48 am

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In post 299, Sound of Silence wrote:If you want reach out, it is your job.
ooh.
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Post Post #301 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:49 am

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In post 298, magenta_thegreat wrote:
In post 291, Sound of Silence wrote:I unvoted last night, but GiF didn't agree with my nacho read until after he and mara duked it out overnight.
hold on

you said I voted Nacho as soon as he started to town it up
Right. You decided to vote Nacho when his posts were moving him townward for me.

That was a bit of a flag. Probably the first flag, at least for me.
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Post Post #302 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:55 am

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In post 299, Sound of Silence wrote:So, are you positing a Nacho/SoS scumteam?
Uhh...

no, I'm not

and I'm not to concerned as to who reaches out to us, and when though Orci was. He thinks that you would, at the very least, reach out to those you have weak reads on before you decide to solidify a read. He also says that he expects town-ffery to withhold a read on us for the time being when he requested it.
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Post Post #303 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:56 am

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In post 301, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 298, magenta_thegreat wrote:
In post 291, Sound of Silence wrote:I unvoted last night, but GiF didn't agree with my nacho read until after he and mara duked it out overnight.
hold on

you said I voted Nacho as soon as he started to town it up
Right. You decided to vote Nacho when his posts were moving him townward for me.

That was a bit of a flag. Probably the first flag, at least for me.
why was he scum before-hand?
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Post Post #304 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:57 am

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In post 302, magenta_thegreat wrote:
In post 299, Sound of Silence wrote:So, are you positing a Nacho/SoS scumteam?
Uhh...

no, I'm not

and I'm not to concerned as to who reaches out to us, and when though Orci was. He thinks that you would, at the very least, reach out to those you have weak reads on before you decide to solidify a read. He also says that he expects town-ffery to withhold a read on us for the time being when he requested it.
I didn't see that request, or recognize it as a request. Will look.
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Post Post #305 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:59 am

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In post 302, magenta_thegreat wrote:he expects town-ffery to withhold a read on us for the time being when he requested it.
I don't understand.
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Post Post #306 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:00 am

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In post 302, magenta_thegreat wrote:
In post 299, Sound of Silence wrote:So, are you positing a Nacho/SoS scumteam?
Uhh...

no, I'm not

and I'm not to concerned as to who reaches out to us, and when though Orci was. He thinks that you would, at the very least, reach out to those you have weak reads on before you decide to solidify a read. He also says that he expects town-ffery to withhold a read on us for the time being when he requested it.
I don't see the request. plz point it out to me.
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Post Post #307 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:04 am

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In post 303, magenta_thegreat wrote:
In post 301, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 298, magenta_thegreat wrote:
In post 291, Sound of Silence wrote:I unvoted last night, but GiF didn't agree with my nacho read until after he and mara duked it out overnight.
hold on

you said I voted Nacho as soon as he started to town it up
Right. You decided to vote Nacho when his posts were moving him townward for me.

That was a bit of a flag. Probably the first flag, at least for me.
why was he scum before-hand?
It was a couple of things. One I don't want to mention because I think it might be a useful meta tell in future games. Another was Nacho initially ignoring Mastin's artificial townbloc suggestion.

And another was what GiF dropping the words "Buzzword Bingo" into the game did and didn't provoke.
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Post Post #308 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:05 am

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In post 307, Sound of Silence wrote:One I don't want to mention because I think it might be a useful meta tell in future games.
:(
In post 307, Sound of Silence wrote:And another was what GiF dropping the words "Buzzword Bingo" into the game did and didn't provoke.
You were trying to provoke me?
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Post Post #309 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:07 am

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there was no request >.>

but he did mention that he expected Ffery to not be entirely sure of her reads before interacting with people
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Post Post #310 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:07 am

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there was no request >.>

but he did mention that he expected Ffery to not be entirely sure of her reads before interacting with people
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Post Post #311 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:09 am

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In post 308, Nachomamma8 wrote:You were trying to provoke me?
I was
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Post Post #312 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:11 am

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In post 308, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 307, Sound of Silence wrote:One I don't want to mention because I think it might be a useful meta tell in future games.
:(
In post 307, Sound of Silence wrote:And another was what GiF dropping the words "Buzzword Bingo" into the game did and didn't provoke.
You were trying to provoke me?
He was trying to provoke some reactions, and not just you. There are some parallels due to the game size, and the potential for a web of townreads to severely limit scum team options above and beyond what the game mechanic does.

Mastin's plan to some degree would interfere with that web happening, which is the main thing I don't like about the plan. I can see benefit for scum in pursuing it, though I don't think the web of townreads would be quite as tight in this game as it was in Buzzword Bingo.
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Post Post #313 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:14 am

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In post 302, magenta_thegreat wrote:
In post 299, Sound of Silence wrote:So, are you positing a Nacho/SoS scumteam?
Uhh...

no, I'm not

and I'm not to concerned as to who reaches out to us, and when though Orci was. He thinks that you would, at the very least, reach out to those you have weak reads on before you decide to solidify a read. He also says that he expects town-ffery to withhold a read on us for the time being
when he requested it.
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Post Post #314 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:16 am

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I'm being delusional
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Post Post #315 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:22 am

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mara you have more up to date meta on me than orcinus does. I'd think town-you would be pointing some of this stuff out to him outside the thread.
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Post Post #316 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:30 am

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Just got back on, and now there's over 300 posts... I'll catch up and post my thoughts.
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Post Post #317 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:31 am

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Damn lurker.
just the tIP
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Post Post #318 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:31 am

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In post 309, magenta_thegreat wrote:there was no request >.>

but he did mention that he expected Ffery to not be entirely sure of her reads before interacting with people
That's the story when fery's playing alone.
I know everyone wants to base their reads on fery when reading SoS, but yeah, I'm here too.
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Post Post #319 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:33 am

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In post 317, TheIrishPope wrote:Damn lurker.
Sure am.
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Post Post #320 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:33 am

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well no, considering I am still recovering from my town-reading scum-you in every game you were scum. I havn't figured out the difference between town-ffery and scum-ffery other than what Nacho told me Re your interactions with your buddies and, when I try to use meta I end up being burned

however
In post 67, Sound of Silence wrote:Is that a srs vote or joke vote
In post 68, magenta_thegreat wrote:totally serious, let's kill scum Ffery/gif :)
In post 69, Sound of Silence wrote:Mara you're scaring me.
I did like these sequences of posts, and the paranoia was present from the first post. I up-played my suspicion on Nacho there, and you freaked out even more

after that though, I'm not to entirely happy with what the two of you have posted and I think I need to be mroe awake to analyze it properly. for the time being, I'm leaving Orci's vote on you guys right now, because I had a similar reaction to that post

Officially, I thought scum was one of Mastin/Nacho and the other one was found in Phoke/Darger/matt or both scum are found in the latter group, but it just felt way to easy if that was the case.

TIP was town early game, though I know people will react weirdly when I am not reading him properly so I was scum-reading him, though I'm not entirely fond of his lack of reaction to me pushing him. It felt a whole lot more like Walking dead more than it did Vi's U-pick, but before I had gone into a 1v1 with Nacho, he was a solid town-read. now, he isn't as much

I don't like GIF's reaction to me " not having a read on him" though, so I think that might be more of a reason to why your slot is scum

I liked Tammy's reaction alot, and I liked her reaction when I called her out for not being obv. town fast enough.
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Post Post #321 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:34 am

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In post 311, magenta_thegreat wrote:
In post 308, Nachomamma8 wrote:You were trying to provoke me?
I was
Why did you say this?
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Post Post #322 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:35 am

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In post 320, magenta_thegreat wrote:TIP was town early game, though I know people will react weirdly when I am not reading him properly so I was scum-reading him, though I'm not entirely fond of his lack of reaction to me pushing him. It felt a whole lot more like Walking dead more than it did Vi's U-pick, but before I had gone into a 1v1 with Nacho, he was a solid town-read. now, he isn't as much
Who did you expect to notice you incorrectly reading TIP?
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Post Post #323 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:41 am

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because I did.

Him first of all, and considering that he had made himself obv town pretty early to those that know how he plays (Imo), everyone else who has experience with me reading TIP

You and Ffery were the first that came to mind, Tammy was a tertiary that was pure luck I think
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Post Post #324 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:46 am

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In post 323, magenta_thegreat wrote:because I did.

Him first of all, and considering that he had made himself obv town pretty early to those that know how he plays (Imo), everyone else who has experience with me reading TIP

You
and Ffery
were the first that came to mind, Tammy was a tertiary that was pure luck I think
Aaand your not having a read on TiP was a significant part of our reasons for scumreading you.
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