Marketplace Mafia III - Game Over

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

fardy you're an asshole just deal with it and leave britney alone

[morph the cat]

Tammy, amend the day one part probably, but being on the other end of your.... unique.. method of yelling at me is pretty terrifying and seems to give you results? Chef mafia you guys mislynched me (worth it for the win tho) and I was scared as fuck of you in syr's hard boiled the entire time. I seem to remember getting major heat day one in that game, maybe not?

Also it was me who made that, ffery's been kinda in the back seat most of the evening so far.

[Lost Butterfly]

No I just don't enjoy people telling me when I can or cannot speak with them. You're not even pushing a real case. You're just saying my posts are bad and that I'm scum.

I'm probably going to get you lynched unless you change my mind so I think I'm doing okay?

[Pyrotechnics]

That was Cabd. I didn't play Mafia.Maiden. Before my time. You're probably thinking of Raptured.

But I agree with Cabd that self-proclaiming obvtown is pretty dumb. If you are BEING obvtown, then other town will see it. Saying so is a waste of effort.

Um so...and so.

[morph the cat]

Tammy, amend the day one part probably, but being on the other end of your.... unique.. method of yelling at me is pretty terrifying and seems to give you results? Chef mafia you guys mislynched me (worth it for the win tho) and I was scared as fuck of you in syr's hard boiled the entire time. I seem to remember getting major heat day one in that game, maybe not?

Also it was me who made that, ffery's been kinda in the back seat most of the evening so far.

Nuh uh.

I bet we're 50/50 postwise.

[Lost Butterfly]

fardy you're an asshole just deal with it and leave britney alone

:[ plz don't vig me this time

[Lost Butterfly]

Tammy is very sassy :[

[morph the cat]

Tammy, amend the day one part probably, but being on the other end of your.... unique.. method of yelling at me is pretty terrifying and seems to give you results? Chef mafia you guys mislynched me (worth it for the win tho) and I was scared as fuck of you in syr's hard boiled the entire time. I seem to remember getting major heat day one in that game, maybe not?

Also it was me who made that, ffery's been kinda in the back seat most of the evening so far.

Nuh uh.

I bet we're 50/50 postwise.

Maybe but mine are better-er

[Lost Butterfly]

hey do you guys wanna lynch lord mhork with me i promise to vote ur top read tomorrow and am not lying

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

fardy you're an asshole just deal with it and leave britney alone

:[ plz don't vig me this time

I've never vigged you in my life and take that accusation very seriously.

[morph the cat]

hey do you guys wanna lynch lord mhork with me i promise to vote ur top read tomorrow and am not lying

Maaaybe.

I don't like that Voided disappeared after I put that whole huge scary vote on him.

[Lord Mhork]

No I just don't enjoy people telling me when I can or cannot speak with them. You're not even pushing a real case. You're just saying my posts are bad and that I'm scum.

I'm probably going to get you lynched unless you change my mind so I think I'm doing okay?

Good job? It's not like pushing mislynches is particularly difficult to do. But sure. You're doing great so far.

[Lost Butterfly]

Did you type that with a straight face, just curious.

[Lost Butterfly]

god I don't even know actually

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

hey do you guys wanna lynch lord mhork with me i promise to vote ur top read tomorrow and am not lying

Maaaybe.

I don't like that Voided disappeared after I put that whole huge scary vote on him.

big ups to you

[Garuda]

HI HELLO THIS IS YOUR CAPTAIN EMPIRE SPEAKING. NACHO AND I TALKED A LOT ABOUT STRATEGY AND I WORKED RLY HARD ON THIS POST PLEASE READ EVERY WORD OF IT AND TELL ME YOUR THOUGHTS.

1) Given that Magua linked a Mafia Left Hand role PM from the last game, I think it’s pretty safe to assume we’re dealing with another multiball situation. The last game had 20 players and two scum teams of 3 slots each – there’s only one additional slot here so it’s likely that it’s still 3/3 here (well there might be some bullshit like a 3rd party from the first game but fuck SKs and fuck that noise for now).

2) Negative utility items (such as investigation immunity, deadline, etc) should be claimed immediately if won by town (and it’s not impossible to outright win one, the N0 Night Kill went for only $31 last game for example). Failure to do so will be considered to have been won by scum. I don't want any dumb lolgambits on this front (this means you, Cabd). This is non-negotiable. If you’re town and do something stupid on this front, my hatred of you will follow you like a shroud for the rest of your days.

3) The last game was won by forming a public town bloc and having suspicious people / non-townreads transfer their money over to the townies. Magua mentioned after the last game and IIRC in the dead QT that he was going to make sure this did not happen in the next installment. The signups thread also talks about making transferring less efficient. I combed the Rules with a comb and noticed something in the Mafia role PM – take a look at where it says “Wire Fraud” under the section called “Dirty Tricks”. The mafia have an ability where they must choose a transferor and a transferee. I’m guessing that this is the mechanic Magua was referring to and that this probably means the mafia have some way of fucking with publicly announced transfers of money. I’m still trying to figure out some way around this as I think this game has similar potential to be broken. One of the ideas I’ve been kicking around is to have a publicly announced town bloc but without announcing any transferors (in other words, the mafia won’t get to know where the money comes from). It’s not foolproof but at least it leaves mafia guessing. We could also do this the old fashioned way (and I’m guessing this is the way Magua wants us to do it if at all) by not having any announced town bloc and just privately transferring money to townreads. Open to suggestions here.

4) The items auctioned last night were incredibly shitty and I think a large part of the problem there was that the town overall did not put much towards advertising good PRs. Nacho and I had a similar thought process here – I told him that given the fact that the mafia started with more money than town last game, mafia would probably still have the starting money advantage here and we would have to put more towards actually winning things than advertising it. I even told him that we’d just let the other townies do the advertising for us. By the looks of things, this line of thinking appears to have been common among everyone, leading to a large diffusion of responsibility which into led to the shit N0 auctions. I’m asking the rest of you guys here to actually set aside some money for advertising good shit like BP, doctor, and commuter.

Anyway, now to read the thread.

[zMuffinMan]

Given how little I'm liking bald's push on them, I'm starting to think they're town. At the very least I don't think they're scum. I like their most recent post as well.

^^ I kinda think this is townish just because I feel like even if it's faulty it was him trying to apply a genuine reason to get a read on us.

really? i had the complete opposite reaction to this. it looks like him making up a reason and not thinking about it from a town perspective (he should know it's faulty logic).

i don't understand why you don't think his ignorance is sincere, he seems kind of an idiot

the sheer volume of it. it reminds me of other times i've seen it done and overplayed. take, for example, neil's ISO in this game. multiple posts at the beginning of the game, faking ignorance of the setup.

i don't understand why you're writing it off as sincere.

[Voidedmafia]

who are you talking about? is it me?

I believe it's me in response to muffin's 212.

I am fucking amazing. Lord Mhork continuting his robotic line of inquiry like some sort of fucking dog in heat owns.

This kind of self-boasting never rubs me the right way.

Agree w/ Mina those are all good posts she quoted

And I'm sure they're pretty, too, but what do they have to do with the price of tea in china if you don't explain them?

I agree in general with muffin's 240.

P-EDIT: Farady, that award doesn't generalize you into being a nice guy all the time. -_-

P-EDIT2: Morph:

A.) I'm busy doing more than just this game. Don't worry your little butts.

B.) ALDFJALDKJ POSTJACKING!

AGAIN: ALDKFJAKLDFJAKLDJFKLAJL!

LAJKLFJAKLFJAKLDFJLAJFKLAJDKLFJAKLFJK`


...Fuck this.

[morph the cat]

I don't want any dumb lolgambits on this front (this means you, Cabd).

I can feel the love already!

[Lost Butterfly]

hey can you sign your posts garuda?

[Pyrotechnics]

Tammy, amend the day one part probably, but being on the other end of your.... unique.. method of yelling at me is pretty terrifying and seems to give you results? Chef mafia you guys mislynched me (worth it for the win tho) and I was scared as fuck of you in syr's hard boiled the entire time. I seem to remember getting major heat day one in that game, maybe not?

Also it was me who made that, ffery's been kinda in the back seat most of the evening so far.

Um no in Chef we decided you were town and tried to lynch d3x the day you were lynched. Syry and I were pretty pissed about your lynch. We decided you were leaning town day two, and were trying to solidify that so we could move on.

Day one, you weren't around much but Syry had a scum read on you for what he thought was handwaving. I left the read on you up to him because he hydras with you.

I did go after you early day two to try to get a read on you when we had to reevaluate everything after Amrun was confirmed town to us and we realized our town reads were wrong somewhere.

As far as Syr' hard boiled game, I did have a scum read on you guys, but you weren't around and there was a quick lynch day one.

But none of that matters. You're all "why aren't you sorting me early day one?" When it's clearly obvious I'm trying to sort other people

[Lost Butterfly]

Um...ignore my last post of random quotes, please. I hit submit accidentally before commenting on the quotes. And the baldeagle ones were on my clipboard from before. My point was basically that this is a terrible, horrible reason for a vote. Also, your scum reads (baldeagle, Voidedmafia, Lost Butterfly) all line up perfectly with the people who were getting heat, whereas I think town would be prone to falling into a camp. Care to elaborate on why bald-Voided-LB are your scumreads? Or why Pyro and Muffin are town? Your list feels cribbed from everyone else's.

I think I need to take a break from posting and touch base with Faraday for a bit, because we've been posting almost completely independently so far.

Tammy...I...I really can't tell. Do you...not...realize at

all

that Faraday is trolling you? Like, at

all

? You just seem completely oblivious.

Also, in all fairness, I checked my opening post, and I did say something like "Why neighbourizer in particular?" I mean, honestly, I was surprised that the winning bid on neighbourizer was $100. So I see your point that I was downplaying it; like, yes, it's dangerous in the hands of scum who are really lucky in whom they target, but it's really only situationally useful. I was thinking other roles (Deadline, Hitman, etc.) were more dangerous. I still think your trying to find scum motivation in that is silly, though.

~Mina

[Lost Butterfly]

Given how little I'm liking bald's push on them, I'm starting to think they're town. At the very least I don't think they're scum. I like their most recent post as well.

^^ I kinda think this is townish just because I feel like even if it's faulty it was him trying to apply a genuine reason to get a read on us.

really? i had the complete opposite reaction to this. it looks like him making up a reason and not thinking about it from a town perspective (he should know it's faulty logic).

i don't understand why you don't think his ignorance is sincere, he seems kind of an idiot

the sheer volume of it. it reminds me of other times i've seen it done and overplayed. take, for example, neil's ISO in this game. multiple posts at the beginning of the game, faking ignorance of the setup.

i don't understand why you're writing it off as sincere.

I think it's a reason that's valid in most games, I don't think town always modify how they scumhunt in multi ball (or psuedo multiball).

i'm writing it off as sincere cos I think it is? I mean I think I'm pretty good at judging sincerity and I haven't actually read any of his posts but i'd be surprised if he was scum? i mean okay, i've seen scum fake stupid shit before like cooldog in good versus evil but it feels more like him just being purposefully clueless about the whole game which I find fairly easy to sympathise with

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

HI HELLO THIS IS YOUR CAPTAIN EMPIRE SPEAKING. NACHO AND I TALKED A LOT ABOUT STRATEGY AND I WORKED RLY HARD ON THIS POST PLEASE READ EVERY WORD OF IT AND TELL ME YOUR THOUGHTS.

1) Given that Magua linked a Mafia Left Hand role PM from the last game, I think it’s pretty safe to assume we’re dealing with another multiball situation. The last game had 20 players and two scum teams of 3 slots each – there’s only one additional slot here so it’s likely that it’s still 3/3 here (well there might be some bullshit like a 3rd party from the first game but fuck SKs and fuck that noise for now).

2) Negative utility items (such as investigation immunity, deadline, etc) should be claimed immediately if won by town (and it’s not impossible to outright win one, the N0 Night Kill went for only $31 last game for example). Failure to do so will be considered to have been won by scum. I don't want any dumb lolgambits on this front (this means you, Cabd). This is non-negotiable. If you’re town and do something stupid on this front, my hatred of you will follow you like a shroud for the rest of your days.

3) The last game was won by forming a public town bloc and having suspicious people / non-townreads transfer their money over to the townies. Magua mentioned after the last game and IIRC in the dead QT that he was going to make sure this did not happen in the next installment. The signups thread also talks about making transferring less efficient. I combed the Rules with a comb and noticed something in the Mafia role PM – take a look at where it says “Wire Fraud” under the section called “Dirty Tricks”. The mafia have an ability where they must choose a transferor and a transferee. I’m guessing that this is the mechanic Magua was referring to and that this probably means the mafia have some way of fucking with publicly announced transfers of money. I’m still trying to figure out some way around this as I think this game has similar potential to be broken. One of the ideas I’ve been kicking around is to have a publicly announced town bloc but without announcing any transferors (in other words, the mafia won’t get to know where the money comes from). It’s not foolproof but at least it leaves mafia guessing. We could also do this the old fashioned way (and I’m guessing this is the way Magua wants us to do it if at all) by not having any announced town bloc and just privately transferring money to townreads. Open to suggestions here.

4) The items auctioned last night were incredibly shitty and I think a large part of the problem there was that the town overall did not put much towards advertising good PRs. Nacho and I had a similar thought process here – I told him that given the fact that the mafia started with more money than town last game, mafia would probably still have the starting money advantage here and we would have to put more towards actually winning things than advertising it. I even told him that we’d just let the other townies do the advertising for us. By the looks of things, this line of thinking appears to have been common among everyone, leading to a large diffusion of responsibility which into led to the shit N0 auctions. I’m asking the rest of you guys here to actually set aside some money for advertising good shit like BP, doctor, and commuter.

Anyway, now to read the thread.

tl;dr

[Lost Butterfly]

Tammy...I...I really can't tell. Do you...not...realize at all that Faraday is trolling you? Like, at all? You just seem completely oblivious.

huh!!?