Marketplace Mafia III - Game Over

[zMuffinMan]

Unvote
Vote: Voidedmafia

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

Ughbluh.

I'm really not okay with the people who have been posting a crapton. It's a great way for scum to
- look town in the early game,
- blow up the thread into 26 pages after what, 24 hours, so that people like me who can't be on all day fall behind and lurk, which makes them prime scum targets, and
- decrease the signal:noise ratio.

I've had a stern word with N, and I'm definitely got my eye on Lost Butterfly, morph the cat, and Pyrotechnics.

On the other hand, it should be noted that as of yet PeregrineV, guille2015 and DoctorPepper haven't posted.

N asked me to take a look at Garuda. I didn't like the Voided and Mhork votes and the Klick vote bugs me, especially in regards to what I've just said above. Also the idea that this is like the only scumread Nacho and Empire agree on ('sync achieved'), I'd think that'd require more content than one post expressing what is a fairly common sentiment at this point (see: my previous post, Seanald, Hermy... as they seem to be well aware.) If I remember correctly, I've never played with Empire, but a one-post read glean doesn't match up with my recollections of Nacho-town. I do think that the intrahydra communication there sounds believable, though, and it's the only real thing that's giving me pause at the moment.

I'm conflicted on Lost Butterfly, because a lot of what Mina has done seems scummy to me (that awful first post about getting investigation immunity, html tags, argument with Pyrotechnics) and a lot of what Faraday has done seems much better. But I've never played with Mina and I can't read Faraday since Gay Mafia II and, I think, Mafiastuck.

Finally, Pyrotechnics has jumped out at me for a lot of setup spec / prior games analysis and not much scumhunting. Also, there's something off about #577 that I can't pin down.

Haven't looked at many others (BBmolla and zMuffinMan read town though); hope to take a look at the current wagons soon. I'm not sure what to think of deadline timing. Need to talk further with N.

-- Quil

[Zdenek]

With the short deadline, we should probably just policy lynch Peregrine.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

Player	Advertised n0	Bid on n0
VoidedMafia
PeregrineV
Nero Cain
Seanald
guille2015
Lost Butterfly (a hydra of Faraday and Mina)	None
Garuda (a hydra of Empire and Nachomamma8)
Pyrotechnics (a hydra of Syryana and Tammy)	adv 0	bid on neigh, didn't get it
morph the cat (a hydra of Cabd and fferyllt)	Neighborizer, Doctor, Watcher
BBmolla
Banakai
Harakiri (hydra of Natirasha and Sakura Hana)
uʍop ǝpısdn (confirmed town N and Quilford)	Cop and Medium	everything - didn't win any
zMuffinMan	Nothing
Hermy
ProHawk
Lord Mhork	Nothing	Cop, Gravedigger, Medium (won)
Zdenek	medium
1baldeagle1	None	Vote freezer and Cop
DoctorPepper
Klick

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

>.>
No but the attack is dumb. OMGUS is so overhyped it's like people forgot what the actual definition is. Voting someone shouldn't give a pass to getting a return vote. >.<

if the attack is so dumb, why are you so upset about it?

[Harakiri]

he trusts you to blindly sheep nacho?

I trust her not to act stupid. For as use

ful

less as I've been this game, trusting Nacho to be her hydra partner-in-spirit is better than me right now.

I'm stunned.

I'm not emotionally stable enough to handle this game at the moment. For that, I apologize. I'm going to hide til day two and start anew--hopefully the maelstrom in my mind has quelled somewhat by that point.

@Nford: We put 10 down advertising Neighborizer, 90 on actually buying it.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

Voided is scum. He needs to be lynched.

hi what do you think of deadline being played while he was a top wagon?

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

Player	Advertised n0	Bid on n0
VoidedMafia
PeregrineV
Nero Cain
Seanald
guille2015
Lost Butterfly (a hydra of Faraday and Mina)	None
Garuda (a hydra of Empire and Nachomamma8)
Pyrotechnics (a hydra of Syryana and Tammy)	adv 0	bid on neigh, didn't get it
morph the cat (a hydra of Cabd and fferyllt)	Neighborizer, Doctor, Watcher
BBmolla
Banakai
Harakiri (hydra of Natirasha and Sakura Hana)	Neighborizer	Neighborizer
uʍop ǝpısdn (confirmed town N and Quilford)	Cop and Medium	everything - didn't win any
zMuffinMan	Nothing
Hermy
ProHawk
Lord Mhork	Nothing	Cop, Gravedigger, Medium (won)
Zdenek	medium
1baldeagle1	None	Vote freezer and Cop
DoctorPepper
Klick

[zMuffinMan]

Also the idea that this is like the only scumread Nacho and Empire agree on ('sync achieved')

now that you mention it, i'm interested in this, too. i kind of want to know what they discussed when they synced, such that their top scum read (or the only one they agreed on?) was someone with a single post.

hi what do you think of deadline being played while he was a top wagon?

not directed at me, but mhork was actually the top wagon at the time with 5 votes, and voided and LB were both on 4 votes. but it's also possible the deadline ability was used at an earlier time between 275 and 451.

[Zdenek]

Mhork, how many scum teams do you think that there are?

ZMuffin, I advertised medium because I thought it would be a useful role early in the game. I didn't bid on it because when I saw the antitown abilities available, I decided to go for those instead.

Lost butterfly, what were your questions to the mod and Magua's answers?

I'd vote for Klick.

[Nero Cain]

Seanald, Klick and to a lesser extent Hermy don't look so good.

i actually liked seanald's entrance. tone of the post read arrogant town.

I don't get arrogant town from complaining about the thread.

[zMuffinMan]

nah, not the complaint itself, more him thinking he can get away with not contributing until D2. the overall tone of the post sounded townish. arrogant probably wasn't the right word.

is that really all you had to comment on in the last 20 or so pages?

[Nero Cain]

Maybe you should let me finish reading?

[Nero Cain]

not scum, Tammy. Go away.

I'm liking Mhork but then again he's experienced enough to not wig out under pressure. Still think Harakiri would make an excellent lynch. Was thinking that Sean might be a decent lynch 'cause I think scum DO like to complain about the size of said thread (but town do as well so its pretty null). Muffin makes a pretty good point though. Not for PLing PV.

[Nero Cain]

Sean is also a big lurker.

[Lord Mhork]

@upside: I've been lynched for stupid reasons before and I pissed me off, do dumb attacks get on my nerves. If I'm gonna get lynched, I'd at least like some semblance of a logical case.

@zdenek: I'm assuming two 'cause there was that whole 'left' hand mafia role. It was an epiphany when I figured out it could mean left is one and right is other. Until that clicked, I thought left hand was some sort of euphemism for communism or something. Plus anything more than two seems unbalanced because they can win together.

UNVOTE: zdenek

I can buy that rationale for now.

VOTE: Seanald

Muffin, I understand where you are coming from with the whole arrogance thing, but I'm telling you that town Seanald fluffs more and scum Seanald lurks hard.

[Voidedmafia]

It's also very possible that scum will come in and make one post for the rest of the day. We should definitely look over the lurkers tomorrow.

I find this to be a likely possibility, though how do you propose to differentiate between town who only post once and scum who only post one?

Faraday can answer the thing about Voidedmafia and Lord Mhork himself, since I don't think I've played much with Voided and am not sure of his skill level.

Just an FYI: If anyone says I'm a strong player, they're lying <_<.

But, this stuff between Tammy and FaraMina does not feel like scum pushing an angle from either side.

I singled out BBMolla 'cause he was all 'hey everyone let's just lynch Mhork.' At least that's what I remember seeing. This game is moving really quickly.

I think he did that. 20 pages or so kinda muddies the mind. I remember thinking he did some town things, but I'm probably going to need to recheck that.

Why zdenek, again, though?

he trusts you to blindly sheep nacho?

QFT

Honestly, no.

Are you voting me because of the reduced deadline and the want to get a lynch through, or because I'm scum then?

For the first part, then explain your other reasons for calling him town, because you are WKing him.

I have explained it already when someone else asked. -_-

Voided is scum. He needs to be lynched.

Cute.

not directed at me, but mhork was actually the top wagon at the time with 5 votes, and voided and LB were both on 4 votes. but it's also possible the deadline ability was used at an earlier time between 275 and 451.

I think that counts as a "top wagon" for the purpose of his point. What exactly does 1 less vote change there?

I'm not going to mess with the table, but I advertised Extra Vote. I bid on EV (won) and Neighborizer (lost)

[Seanald]

Not relevant with the pace of this game, you know that mhork. And maybe I shoulda been like the others and simply not posted anything. I'm in it to win it, but I ain't fucking reading the whole thread when it's generating 3 pages an hour. Like I said at that point go fuck selves.

So I'll opt to continue interjecting my self awkwardly into the game racking up some votes along the way, blah blah.

Now is there any kind of strategy we are trying to follow here like we did in marketplace 2?

[zMuffinMan]

@voided,

you weren't

the

top wagon, like upside down implied, and you may not have even really had a wagon when deadline was actually used, since magua wasn't around for like 10 pages and it could have happened at any time during those pages.

[Harakiri]

Not relevant with the pace of this game, you know that mhork. And maybe I shoulda been like the others and simply not posted anything. I'm in it to win it, but I ain't fucking reading the whole thread when it's generating 3 pages an hour. Like I said at that point go fuck selves.

So I'll opt to continue interjecting my self awkwardly into the game racking up some votes along the way, blah blah.

Now is there any kind of strategy we are trying to follow here like we did in marketplace 2?

But you clearly are reading enough to notice the vote on you

Unvote
Vote: Seanald

[Lord Mhork]

@Voided:
I dunno. We look at the people with low post counts with scrutiny? It's likely one of the three to not post yet are scum.

Zdenek was for the medium thing, but his response was reasonable enough to me to not be worth trying to really go after.

@seanald:
My point is that you don't contribute much as town or scum, but as town you at least fluff.

Also your Beetlejuicing is noticed as well as your AtE and 'hey guys I'm town let's do a strategy'

[Seanald]

Lol and this pathetic attempt to find a last minute easy lurker lynch isn't scummy? Are you kidding me here? There is plenty of information to settle on an informable valuable lynch rather than my useless ass. Now your just playing bad.

[Seanald]

Also what the hell, I advertised for austerity measures.

[Lord Mhork]

Then who would you suggest?

[Nero Cain]

Sean/Mhork ain't gonna happen today. Harakiri is scum and we should kill it.