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Post Post #5275 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:57 am

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In post 5270, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 5263, Antihero wrote:there's some paranoia of trust fund and varsoon that I have to kill.
lynch bro
nacho hammers andrius
lynch trust fund
lynch varsoon
this is seriously how this game goes
we win GUARANTEED
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Post Post #5276 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:57 am

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Votecount 6.1


[4] BROseidon (Nachomamma8, TiphaineDeath, Mac, Andrius)
[2] Nachomamma8 (Antihero, BROSeidon)
[1] Andrius (waynegg)

[3] Not Voting (Varsoon, notscience, Trust Fund)

With 10 alive, it is 6 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2013-10-28 10:00:00)
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Post Post #5277 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:57 am

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In post 5261, Nachomamma8 wrote:because we're not clearing you for bussing?
because we're not attempting to lynch confirmed town?
because...?
which one of these two questions didn't cover your reasoning for being town.
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Post Post #5278 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:59 am

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There is 0 cost to lynching Andy.

There is a potential gain.

Not having one of us hammer Andy today is a strictly inferior decision.

pedit: You call it bussing because you make the fundamental assumption that I'm scum without looking at what actually happened.

I never tried to get Anti lynch. I proposed a crazy idea because not considering all possibilities is dumb.

You still haven't articulated why scum would bus Rach over me on day 1.
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Post Post #5279 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:59 am

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In post 5278, BROseidon wrote:Not having one of us hammer Andy today is a strictly inferior decision.
why?
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Post Post #5280 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:00 am

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For Nacho

10. ***Nachomamma8*** ~
Spoiler:
reply to Nick's of TD not voting
Venmar was in reference to FTL's where they berate TD's
Venmar vote. Only problem? TD hadn't voted Venmar by that point.
In fact all the way up to his last post at this point () TD has
yet to actually vote for Venmar, though he had talked about it.
Overall, I really liked Nacho's earlier posts better. This one seems to
come from an informed perspective. Especially the (WK?) defense
of Andy. That part reads like maybe he
did
draw scum and has
some dissonance with letting a buddy be mislynched due to relational
stuff with his slot. Back to null while I mull him over.
on (all Tuesday the 20th posts) show both his commitment to
this game and all the townie goodness I would hope to see in town
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wouldn't the best way to curb that be to lynch it?
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Post Post #5281 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:00 am

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In post 5278, BROseidon wrote:You still haven't articulated why scum would bus Rach over me on day 1.
you're the better player
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Post Post #5282 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:00 am

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In post 5278, BROseidon wrote:There is 0 cost to lynching Andy.

There is a potential gain.
what's the cost of waiting until tomorrow?
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Post Post #5283 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:00 am

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There is a cost to lynching me-

the game goes on another week or two while we wait to lynch you.
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Post Post #5284 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:01 am

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Stupid spoiler tag...
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Post Post #5285 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:02 am

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Bro hammers Andy:

If both town: Still get Bro lynch, get the Andy 1/2 lynch to save an NL later.
If Andy scum: Game's over.
If Bro scum: Lynch Bro next day, gg.

Just lynch Bro:

If both town: Only get bro lynch, have to NL later or execute same plan tomorrow.
If Andy scum: Andy gets to live untouched.
If Bro scum: Game ends 1 day sooner.

The first plan yields a better result in the first two scenarios, and an even result in the third.
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Post Post #5286 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:03 am

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In post 5281, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 5278, BROseidon wrote:You still haven't articulated why scum would bus Rach over me on day 1.
you're the better player
...Thanks for the compliment?
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Post Post #5287 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:04 am

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Andy, if I'm scum and you flip town, do you think I'd be able to get out of a lynch at that point?

Or even stall a lynch?

It's taken <12 hours to put me to L-1 today. An investigative guilty would make that go faster, no?
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Post Post #5288 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:04 am

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Okay, I'm off to dinner, and then I have stuff to do tonight.

I'll be back later, but I won't be able to live-chat like this because fuck real world shit.
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Post Post #5289 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:05 am

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In post 5285, BROseidon wrote:execute same plan tomorrow.
I would be hammering Andrius tomorrow.
Both things have the same result.
In post 5285, BROseidon wrote:If Andy scum: Andy gets to live untouched.
Until tomorrow, when we lynch him.

The two things are completely equal.
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Post Post #5290 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:08 am

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No.
No.
Yes.
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Post Post #5291 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:13 am

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In post 5289, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 5285, BROseidon wrote:execute same plan tomorrow.
I would be hammering Andrius tomorrow.
Both things have the same result.
In post 5285, BROseidon wrote:If Andy scum: Andy gets to live untouched.
Until tomorrow, when we lynch him.

The two things are completely equal.
Except you could renig for *reasons* or have been killed, etc. today we have bro who will be speed lynched if he doesn't follow through on hammer. Andy WIFOM is gone and we get to odd numbers.
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Post Post #5292 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:13 am

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no one will renig.
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Post Post #5293 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:20 am

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Why not just do the same thing today with bro? I don't understand the resistance.
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Post Post #5294 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:22 am

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Andy is very likely town thanks to his claim and his play. BRO is not as likely town.
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Post Post #5295 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:25 am

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VOTE: Bro
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Post Post #5296 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:34 am

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In post 5294, Nachomamma8 wrote:Andy is very likely town thanks to his claim and his play. BRO is not as likely town.
And wouldn't that just seal his fate tomorrow without it hanging on a m/l to XYLO? I realize you and Andy decided early on to go out in a blaze of glory with each other and all, but the lynch Andy to get nacho just makes more sense. And notscience is voting BRO...
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Post Post #5297 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:46 am

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Bro. Not nacho. Meh.
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Post Post #5298 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:04 pm

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In post 5216, BROseidon wrote:
In post 5212, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 5209, BROseidon wrote:pedit2: I have 0 mod experience and have no idea how setups work.
then why wouldn't you listen to other people when they say "this is how setups work"?
I'll listen to NS, Wayne, TD, and Mac about how setups work, because they are the only ones that I consider 100% clear. I'll like 95% listen to Anti.
hello. set-ups work in mysterious ways, bro. it shouldn't take a confirmed town to tell you this, but listen to what everyone else has said. i don't know why you are throwing your toys out of the pram like this. why not listen to anyone else?

godfather = likely cop claims are legit. whether two cop claims are legit is another thing, but we'll get to that.

ps: we should let varsoon claim his results before we hammer.
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Post Post #5299 (ISO) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:23 pm

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In post 5298, Mac wrote:hello. set-ups work in mysterious ways, bro. it shouldn't take a confirmed town to tell you this, but listen to what everyone else has said. i don't know why you are throwing your toys out of the pram like this. why not listen to anyone else?
Because:

1) Possible scum-influence for most of the game.

2) I've been very out of lockstep with most of the players this game. Other than sort of Wayne, I haven't gotten into a groove with anyone, which has made it hard to work with people across the board.
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