In post 625, Lost Butterfly wrote:I'm too tired to give a more substantial response to Tammy, but if you'd said all this in the first place, Faraday and I would have been a lot less tetchy in response.
Frankly, sometimes I feel like I'm in a never-ending arms race between my scum and town game when I play with people I know well. I can't look obvtown every second. I can't always have a breaking strategy or concern myself with appearances or be attentive to every single detail in the thread or always be emotional/spontaneous/whatever it is "town Mina" sounds like. And after a certain point, there's only so much I can up the ante by. There isn't anything I can do to defend against a case like that other than say, "Well, yeah, I
can
fake my town meta decently sometimes. So I guess...just be lucky I got a town PM?"
The woes of being a sociopath.
I also think you're overrating my skill as town. You said I have overblown expectations of you--don't you think the reverse is true if you're attacking me for not having broken the entire game in twenty-four hours? (I mean, I'm perfectly happy with the ratio of scumhunting-to-theory-discussion I've done this game.)
Faraday can answer the thing about Voidedmafia and Lord Mhork himself, since I don't think I've played much with Voided and am not sure of his skill level.
I'm curious to know why Syryana is scumreading us, though. He doesn't know anything about our scum meta.
@Mhork: our push on you was real. If we're talking about the same thing, then I was asking why you were calling us scum but also seemed to believe we had actual conviction in our push on you. I'm also kind of curious to why you decided to single out BBmolla on your wagon. Beyond that, that's it.
I can relate to the problems of expectations of being obvtown.
As far as me not saying what I said the first night, that's a load of crap. In your hyperbolic rant about my egregious misreps and me literally quoting everything you said and misinterpretting it, you were way far off. There was some miscommunication earlier,
in which you don't seem to want to accept some of it was on your part ie asking me a question about why I wanted neighborizer to claim when apparently you meant to ask me a different question entirely.
never mind you do. I never even made a case on you, but you were quick to point out the nonexistent case you assumed was a case where stupid, no wait braindead, reasons to suspect you when you just felt off and every post you made felt more and more off.
But you know I did elaborate on the point I was making to Faraday about the comparison between Mhork and Voided.
here here and
here which I guess it was just more fun to insult me and make fun of me for incorrectly assuming I didn't realize that Faraday was trolling me early, which I think my responses to him were pretty obvious that I knew he was trolling me but whatever. And maybe I didn't get my point across clearly of what I was asking him, because I was trying to make sense of his reads to make sense of him, but you should cut the functionally retarded some slack.
And I never said Oh mina you should have this game broken already. But it did seem odd to me that having asked Magua a million questions about the setups and the roles, there wasn't much of a hint of trying to come up with a plan or coordinate something for town. (And no I don't expect for Faraday to do anything other than troll. And yes, your strategy post could be written by either alignment, but it was nice to see something that was proactive, something that I would expect from someone who had thought about the game enough to ask the mod a bunch of questions.) It's just something that I would have liked to have seen earlier. And really the only person that actually seemed interested in some protown coordination that night was Empire and to a lesser extent Voided. And my overdefensiveness about the neighborizer thing is nothing like the BSG thing but cute of you to bring that up. And it did seem odd to me that someone who asked a bunch of questions to the mod about the roles would find it so strange that I would want the neighborizer to claim. And instead of attacking me for omg claiming I didn't get it and later on attacking me for admitting how much I bid, I find it odd that you didn't actually try to come up with a plan that would be beneficial for the town. If I recall correctly, Empire was the only one to think of a way that the neighborizer could stay hidden but be evaluated.
What is overblown, and still annoys me to some extent, is your comparing at least two weeks to a month of me trying to determine your alignment by asking questions and talking about your meta and reasoning out my read on you and trying to claim that I'm not doing something that took me a month to do in another game in the space of 24 hours here. Like I just read that paragraph again, and I can't believe you actually wrote that. And the thing is I can't believe that you actually believed that enough to write it. I don't know I'm just going to shut up right now because I just think that with the way your slot interacted with me that night you really don't have a right to talk down to me. Maybe there were some communication issues and some of it was my fault, but you assumed reasonings for things that I didn't have. You felt off, you still feel off, and me trying to reason out why you felt wrong when you asked about things as I was trying to determine it myself doesn't make me braindead.
