Mini 1501: We're On A Boat! (END?! results inside)

[LolWagons]

I'm gonna pretend I know what you're up to

[SleepyKrew]

For now.

Can we expect more within the next 5 hours?

[LolWagons]

*crunch*

[SleepyKrew]

lol

[fferyllt]

For now.

Can we expect more within the next 5 hours?

Yes.

[fferyllt]

VOTE: Empire

[Brian Skies]

Can you guys not make these wagons utterly useless on Day 2 by jumping on with naked votes?

[pitoli]

VOTE COUNT 1.17

notscience:

Garmr

Empire:

SpyreX, LolWagons, Brian Skies, fferyllt

SleepyKrew:

Grimgroove

ChannelDelibird:

Peabody

Brian Skies:

ChannelDelibird, SleepyKrew, Plum, CrashTextDummie, Empire, Notscience

Not Voting:

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Time until deadline: (expired on 2013-10-17 00:00:00)

Mod Notes

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[fferyllt]

Can you guys not make these wagons utterly useless on Day 2 by jumping on with naked votes?

My reasons are in my earlier posts.

[Plum]

Brian - The idea that you didn't understand what I was getting at - that lurking close to deadline, especially when there's lack of consensus and drive in the Town,

especially

when you're the potential lynch, is specifically scummy, and that, moreover, only Garmr's lurking was nearly as egregious as yours in regards to prod dodging and/or minimal posting like a champ as deadline approached.

I'm not sure what to make of Brian's latest posting, to be honest. I don't feel that the SK vote was particularly indicative; optimal play for Town or scum is likely to be voting Empire as of his big post o' reads; sorting it out either way is a barrel of WIFOM.

[SleepyKrew]

UNVOTE

VOTE: Empire

Care to explain?

[SleepyKrew]

Also ffery, do you really think an Empire lynch can still happen?

[LolWagons]

Also ffery, do you really think an Empire lynch can still happen?

if youd get ur fukkin ass on it it would

[LolWagons]

Brian - The idea that you didn't understand what I was getting at - that lurking close to deadline, especially when there's lack of consensus and drive in the Town,

especially

when you're the potential lynch, is specifically scummy, and that, moreover, only Garmr's lurking was nearly as egregious as yours in regards to prod dodging and/or minimal posting like a champ as deadline approached.

I'm not sure what to make of Brian's latest posting, to be honest. I don't feel that the SK vote was particularly indicative; optimal play for Town or scum is likely to be voting Empire as of his big post o' reads; sorting it out either way is a barrel of WIFOM.

Whats your read on empire

[fferyllt]

UNVOTE

VOTE: Empire

Care to explain?

I wanted a rethink and reassessment of my life choices, basically and didn't want my vote sitting while I thought through all that. Empire talks a good talk. I went back through the Xenologue game that we referenced and he may be right that I misattributed some of the posts I was thinking about to his hydra partner. But not all of them.

The observations about Brian's activity level in the two completed games is semi-accurate. I happened to play both of those games, and the periods of inactivity was more noticable in Brian's scum game. In Mismatched (his town game) the game days ended early with quickhammers, so the pace was much faster and there was incentive for town players to stay on top of the derphammerers.

[fferyllt]

Also ffery, do you really think an Empire lynch can still happen?

I hope so.

I'll be pretty cranky if I have to move my vote just before nightfall.

[SleepyKrew]

Also ffery, do you really think an Empire lynch can still happen?

if youd get ur fukkin ass on it it would

That'd only be 5

[LolWagons]

but baby, to me, you count for three

sigh

I hope garmr and peabawdy get here soon

[SleepyKrew]

I have to sleep soon so yeah leaving it on Brian

[LolWagons]

i understand, im gonna shower then sleep. wont be up before night.

Night guys, see ya in a few days, assumably.

Is someone up to hammer who isnt on the wagon?

[Brian Skies]

Can you guys not make these wagons utterly useless on Day 2 by jumping on with naked votes?

My reasons are in my earlier posts.

This wasn't directed at just you.

Brian - The idea that you didn't understand what I was getting at - that lurking close to deadline, especially when there's lack of consensus and drive in the Town, especially when you're the potential lynch, is specifically scummy, and that, moreover, only Garmr's lurking was nearly as egregious as yours in regards to prod dodging and/or minimal posting like a champ as deadline approached.

When my wagon was based on my inactivity and decision to claim my role? Some of you guys aren't even bothering to read me, so why should I take my wagon seriously? And I've given you content. I've given you tons of content. Maybe it's not the type of scum-hunting you expect from other players, but then we get into play-style differences.

Yes, I had a wagon on me. No, I was not the most inactive or contentless player in the game. You just chose to single me out because of my claim. Is it scum-motivated? I don't know. I've had to deal with inactive players too. But I've given you content and the way you're discriminating against me is complete bullshit. And I don't know if I already said this, but if you want to get specific content from me, leave some questions in the thread. I'll respond to them. I'll ask questions. I'll engage you more.

COMMUNICATION WORKS BOTH WAYS!

But when there are a ton of people in the thread, I

will

get the tendency to just sit back and observe. That's just the type of person I am and there is correlation between that and the way I play the game.

Also, I always appear near deadline. Why? Because that's when the most inactive players tend to show up.

Because shit needs to get done.

Now, I already said this before, if you want to lynch me, then do it. But do it because you think I'm scum or because there are other better reasons that will lead to directly finding scum or benefiting town. I won't stop you. Just doing it because millers need to be dead at lylo or for whatever shitty reason that has nothing to do with my alignment is terrible and doesn't benefit town in any way. It's a cop out. And only scum need cop outs.

[Plum]

Whats your read on empire

Uch. Leaning Town a bit now actually.

Honestly, at this point, I'm getting increasingly paranoid that someone who's actually good at scum is just styling over my ability to read this game but I don't have the time to read more closely.

The combination of annoyance at personal and game stagnation leading to paranoia feels genuine here. Fferylt has a very meta-based read; I see what her perspective is but it doesn't do much for me.

[Brian Skies]

And look! Even at deadline, no one even wants to talk to me. They don't want my opinions. They don't want to question my opinions. NOBODY WANTS TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE MILLER!

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT KAZE WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN HE COMPARED THE ROLE TO A SCARLET LETTER!

But it's whatever. You are all big kids. I'm sure somebody on your side has some master plan of finding the scum when I indeed flip miller. Either way, there's no point bothering anymore this day. I've given my reads based on the information I have available to me. I just hope you guys know what you're doing and town wins me the game.

[Peabody]

I will hammer if I need to. I don't think Brian is scum, but I'm not letting us go without a lynch. This is my intent to hammer before deadline. I don't know, maybe a half-hour? Hour?

[fferyllt]

2 hours and 20 minutes.