Marketplace Mafia III - Game Over

[BBmolla]

Why are you voting the way you are for all of these?

Your alignment hasnt changed

[morph the cat]

Why are you voting the way you are for all of these?

During the night phase, I asked myself "If I were vig, who would I shoot?"

I'm voting that player.

[Harakiri]

Because Prohawk's reasons for voting us were terrible and he had the opportunity to hammer before deadline but didn't take it.

[Magua]

Vote Count 2.1

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

VoidedMafia (5): morph the cat, BBmolla, Garuda, 1baldeagle1, Klick
Seanald (2): Lord Mhork, PeregrineV
ProHawk (1): Harakiri

Not Voting (12): VoidedMafia, Nero Cain, Seanald, guille2015, Lost Butterfly, Pyrotechnics, Banakai, uʍop ǝpısdn, zMuffinMan, ProHawk, Zdenek, DoctorPepper

Deadline for Day 2 is Friday, November 1st, at 2:00pm EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2013-11-01 13:00:00)

[Lord Mhork]

@Voided:
Same reasoning as yesterday. He's totally scum.

[Seanald]

Are we advertising claiming for last night? Or still putting it together for N0?

Advo'd for market analyst last night and bid the fuck outta night kill, didn't win that though.

[ProHawk]

VOTE: Harakiri

I am scum for not hammering obv-town. Got it.

[zMuffinMan]

Vote: Seanald

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lol. walk me through why you think this makes him scum.

Vote: Voidedmafia

where does this vote come from? you guys were (or at least nacho was) pretty heavily against the idea of voided being scum yesterday. what changed overnight?

The ability that I advertised in this column is not there, unless the amount I advertised for wasn't enough.

if you advertised it after N0 ended, it didn't show up for N1. why wouldn't you ask magua about this, though?

Fair enough, but I think there's other things to focus on right now until Seanald can give us more to work with.

really? like what, and why aren't you focusing on these other things?

[zMuffinMan]

Because Prohawk's reasons for voting us were terrible and he had the opportunity to hammer before deadline but didn't take it.

eh, prohawk's reasons were terrible, but nero's were worse. what's your opinion of nero?

I am scum for not hammering obv-town.

why did you think hermy was "obvtown"? you said you thought hermy wasn't scum, but that's a leap from obvtown.

also that was a pretty fucking weak defense of hermy if you actually thought she was obvtown.

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advertised tracker

i wanna go back over the hermy wagon and the end of d1.

[ProHawk]

prohawk's reasons were terrible

You guys are hilarious.

[zMuffinMan]

your reasons were fucking terrible. LB even walked you through this yesterday.

[zMuffinMan]

you actually think natirasha's self-voting every game is a scum tell because "in your experience" scum do it?

[Klick]

I am scum for not hammering obv-town.

why did you think hermy was "obvtown"? you said you thought hermy wasn't scum, but that's a leap from obvtown.

also that was a pretty fucking weak defense of hermy if you actually thought she was obvtown.

Hey ProHawk, respond to this part of the post.

[ProHawk]

why did you think hermy was "obvtown"? you said you thought hermy wasn't scum, but that's a leap from obvtown.

also that was a pretty fucking weak defense of hermy if you actually thought she was obvtown.

Speed-lynch. No evidence. She had three posts with the speed lynch. I have played plenty of games with new-players and the post people called into question was CLASSIC for new-town. Already said this, and said I wasn't going to lynch her. I am not really sure what you expect me to do. You don't like my methods? I don't really care. If people don't want to listen to me? Fine. I can just piss and moan and say I told you so-post game.

Why are people getting hung up on this self-voting crutch? Lets all take a look:

Why Harakiri over Hermy?

Self-Votes make me cringe, especially the way it was done "on principle".

Voting while placing the responsibility on someone else for said vote.

A bit of fluff with lots of excuses.

Hermy has... well three posts. The one post which people seem to be gleaning their votes from is something that I commonly see from newer players.

Oh look! I had two other points which people are conveniently forgetting to address. Wanna know why? Cause scum want to focus on the crap that other people will take up arms against instead of addressing ALL of the points. But by all means zMan, keep it up. The self-voting crux is just one of the points that factor into my overall read. Again. Don't like it? I don't really care.

[ProHawk]

Speaking of which, we advertized Market Analyst last night like we said we would.

Are you worried people would have doubted you?

[Klick]

ProHawk's answer is pretty poor. He pretty clearly didn't think Hermy was obvious town.

I'd rather Voided not escape a lynch today, though. I'd support either.

[zMuffinMan]

but the voting while placing responsibility on someone else is

also

a null tell if sakura does it every game with nacho (and this was also covered yesterday, so don't pretend like people are ignoring it). soooooooooooooooo that's two of your major points down the drain. and you're left with harakiri being your strongest scum read because of a bit of fluff with a lot of excuses. which posts are you referring to with this?

also you never once called hermy town, or anything close to "obvtown". you just mentioned her play was standard for a newbie and said you didn't think she was scum.

[morph the cat]

ProHawk's answer is pretty poor. He pretty clearly didn't think Hermy was obvious town.

I'd rather Voided not escape a lynch today, though. I'd support either.

I would totally consider switching my vote to right here.

[Harakiri]

prohawk's reasons were terrible

You guys are hilarious.

What's your fucking problem, Prohawk? I've played with you on multiple occasions now--you should know my self-voting is a null tell, I did it in Cash Cabd as scum and I did it in Xenologue as town. But, its not just that--youve hydra'd with Cabd in games vs me, and we all know he likes to brag about his Big Book of Meta. You SHOULD know better than to bring up such 'scum tells'. But, whatever, let's just assume you've never played with me before or somehow missed my history of self voting.

RE: Excuses. I was very clearly not interested in this game. It opened during the weekend, Pokemon had just come out(a fact that effected EVERY game I was in BTW), I had a major college assignment due. This game was a casualty. I can't really argue this point more than that, but if you want to call it beatlejeucing or whatever go right the fuck on bro--past experience with my games should show that I don't use real life as an excuse to get out of contribution except when its actually legit. In any case, I intend to be a major player in this game moving forward so fuck your shit.

RE: sheeping. Sakura had a few posts in our hydra QTasking me to contribute. I didnt. I was a terrible hydra partner yesterday. Not only that, but the game moved fast and we had a deadline cut short. I probably would have been lost too if I was alone!

RE: Your not hammering. There is no way you knew beyond a shadow of a doubt Hermy's alignment unless you are scum. Are you seriously advocating a no lynch day one of a large game?

Moreover, I have not seen you this standoffish before. In both previous games we've shared, you've been aggressive, yes, but also reasonable. You've acted completely unreasonable in this game since minute one.

@Muffin: Nero is just a run of the mill idiot, I know Prohawk is better than to use such shitty reasoning.

[ProHawk]

He pretty clearly didn't think Hermy was obvious town.

Are you dumb?

[Harakiri]

Speaking of which, we advertized Market Analyst last night like we said we would.

Are you worried people would have doubted you?

Are you seriously pushing this as a scum tell?

[Klick]

He pretty clearly didn't think Hermy was obvious town.

Are you dumb?

Was that necessary?

Show where in Day 1 that you showed any signs of thinking Hermy was town, specifically. Not Day 2 stuff - just Day 1.

[zMuffinMan]

@morph

why? i don't think klick is scum

@nati,

scum reads outside of prohawk?

[ProHawk]

If my points are so hilariously dumb/meaningless, why do they have your panties in a bunch?

If you feel like I am making this stuff up as scum to get Harakiri lynched, vote me. Klick's "I would vote Hawk, but can't let Voided escape" is a cop-out.

[morph the cat]

But, its not just that--youve hydra'd with Cabd in games vs me

Uh... no we haven't?