Marketplace Mafia III - Game Over

[Harakiri]

I haven't gotten that far, muffin. I fully admit I've not read most of day one. Once Prohawk jumped us at the end of yesterday, I kinda tunneled into that.

[morph the cat]

@morph

why? i don't think klick is scum

We kinda disagree, then. This looks like a hugely opportunistic push.

[ProHawk]

An ISO of me should be pretty quick Klick, but for your ease of viewing...

Hermy has... well three posts. The one post which people seem to be gleaning their votes from is something that

I commonly see from newer players

.

I mean, the post I voted her for was pretty much the textbook

Incompetent Scum Entrance.

new player to the game of mafia

FTFY

Not voting Hermy.

I'll advertise Doc.

why not?

I don't think she is scum.

[morph the cat]

Morph's Townbloc

6. Lost Butterfly (a hydra of Faraday and Mina)
7. Garuda (a hydra of Empire and Nachomamma8)
14. zMuffinMan

Other Town/Prob Town

16. ProHawk - On the basis of his replies to Cabd, me. I might put him in the townbloc but I know he doesn't approve of them.
13. uʍop ǝpısdn (a hydra of N and Quilford) - this may surprise me more than it does N
19. 1baldeagle1
17. Lord Mhork
18. Zdenek
12. Harakiri (hydra of Natirasha and Sakura Hana) - this is a sort of probationary seat.
11. Banakai - of the one post wonders, Banakai's one post was by far the most town IMO.
8. Pyrotechnics (a hydra of Syryana and Tammy) - want think they are town, but they have been a source of fragmentation in a game where town needs to cooperate

Null or not enough data

3. Nero Cain
10. BBmolla
2. PeregrineV
4. Seanald
5. guille2015
20. DoctorPepper

Scum

1. VoidedMafia - waffling between top of this list and bottom of null list.
21. Klick
15. Hermy


The groups aren't really ordered. This is not seriatim.

Hey you huge bolded people ENGAGE US ON THIS SHIT. We'll even purr real loudly just for you. Tammy-syr can come too*

*Must check in claws fangs and devil horns at the gate, weapons search may or may not be preformed prior to entry

Also oh hey we got the demon cat avatar back, awesome!

[Harakiri]

Uh... no we haven't?

Just because the game hasn't finished doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

If my points are so hilariously dumb/meaningless, why do they have your panties in a bunch?

What is this? Are you seriously suggesting that I should ignore a case presented on us? Especially one based on such faulty reasoning?

[ProHawk]

What is this? Are you seriously suggesting

You seem to be asking this a lot.

[morph the cat]

Just because the game hasn't finished doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Uh, actually, it means exactly that so kindly STFU before you get booted out of another game for doing this.

[Harakiri]

Re: 927.

None of those seem to indicate you thought they were obvtown, just obvnewbie, the last one says you didnt think they were scum, but that's as good as saying they are null.

~Sakura Hana

[Klick]

Klick's "I would vote Hawk, but can't let Voided escape" is a cop-out.

Then why aren't you voting me? The same logic applies.

@morph

why? i don't think klick is scum

We kinda disagree, then. This looks like a hugely opportunistic push.

Do you disagree with my reasoning for think ProHawk is scum? Either way, we are both pushing for Voided to be lynched.

PEdit:

An ISO of me should be pretty quick Klick, but for your ease of viewing...

Hermy has... well three posts. The one post which people seem to be gleaning their votes from is something that

I commonly see from newer players

.

I mean, the post I voted her for was pretty much the textbook

Incompetent Scum Entrance.

new player to the game of mafia

FTFY

Not voting Hermy.

I'll advertise Doc.

why not?

I don't think she is scum.

1. New, not town
2. New, not town
3. I wouldn't have voted most of the players in the game yesterday because I didn't have much reason to think they were scum. That doesn't mean I think they're town.
4. This is a start. But it doesn't lead to "obvtown."

[Harakiri]

Yeah, because I expect better from you, Prohawk.

[morph the cat]

Do you disagree with my reasoning for think ProHawk is scum?

Yes. We both have him pretty solid town, scroll up to our reads list.

[Klick]

Yeah, I know about your reasons for him-town. But what about my reasons for him-scum?

[Pyrotechnics]

I'm in the midst of catching up on all games tonight and will be back later. However some of this questioning of Prohawk is really really silly. I'd say his refusal, blatant refusal, to vote Hermy day one is a pretty good indication that he believed hermy was town. Just saying.

We don't care about the town bloc, because we don't have strong town reads on anyone in said town block besides possibly muffinman. (Also, Syry has already scolded me for letting faraday goad me by his trolling so you can try but it won't work.)

I am a bit confused over why scum made the deadline shorter if they weren't even going to try to take out someone they thought was obvtown though especially when there was no healing role last night.

And to reiterate we advertised nothing night 0 and we advertised abductor last night. bbl

[zMuffinMan]

We kinda disagree, then. This looks like a hugely opportunistic push.

the prohawk push? meh. it might be, but i don't think it is.

Hey you huge bolded people ENGAGE US ON THIS SHIT.

why don't

you

engage those people? you've barely asked me anything this game.

are those reads still the same, btw? did you discuss anything over the night phase?

[morph the cat]

This is gonna be one of those games where we end up having two separate groups and one poor sap (hi muffin) running like an errand boy in between them, isn't it?

[morph the cat]

Yeah, I know about your reasons for him-town. But what about my reasons for him-scum?

They are weak IMO. His dislike of the major wagon in the short period running up to nightfall was quite obvious. You're quibbling over something quite minor compared to his strong swim against the current of that lynch.

[Klick]

Pyro, it's not that I don't think ProHawk thought Hermy was town. It's that I think he's over-exaggerating how much he thought so.

Either way, I'm starting to think he's probably not scum because of it. He's not arguing something that makes him look town, but appears to be giving his honest thoughts instead.

[morph the cat]

why don't you engage those people?

Hint: that "engage us moar" post was our special blend of engagement investment. DO you disagree with any of the townreads in that list? If so, which ones?

[Harakiri]

Alright, so I have another scum read now.

[morph the cat]

We kinda disagree, then. This looks like a hugely opportunistic push.

the prohawk push? meh. it might be, but i don't think it is.

Hey you huge bolded people ENGAGE US ON THIS SHIT.

why don't

you

engage those people? you've barely asked me anything this game.

are those reads still the same, btw? did you discuss anything over the night phase?

I want to move bmolla into the probtown group.

The rest of the nulls haven't changed.

During the night phase, we talked about how to allocate funds, and what we thought of the late day 1 votes. We also talked about what the bought abilities might say about our townbloc and our scumbloc.

I'm happy to say that last night's purchases suggest our townbloc is solid.

[Voidedmafia]

The ability that I advertised in this column is not there, unless the amount I advertised for wasn't enough.

Never mind, this is the "abilities already auctioned" column. <_<

This should have happened yesterday.

Uh, no.

What was your point on that, again?

Please note that someone already claimed to advertising Bulletproof.

Please note that that was ME.

Your alignment hasnt changed

No, but apparently the amount that it takes for people to vote somebody for nonexistent reasons has.

This isn't an answer to my question, either.

During the night phase, I asked myself "If I were vig, who would I shoot?"

I'm voting that player.

...Okay...why?

VOTE: Harakiri

I am scum for not hammering obv-town. Got it.

Considering that "obv" only shows up in THIS POST, you don't get cookies for claiming hermy was "obvtown" after she was already lynched.

Vote: ProHawk

if you advertised it after N0 ended, it didn't show up for N1. why wouldn't you ask magua about this, though?

Had no time after I posted that wall to think about it <_<

really? like what, and why aren't you focusing on these other things?

My point is that focusing on the fact that seanald advertised austerity, an action that I do agree looks a little stupid, is not really a point to call someone scum on day 2, nor is it something that IMO should be a focus come D2. There are better things to look at, like who voted Hermy and for why, who didn't vote Hermy and why, who's trying to get towncred for actions they took (or didn't) (*coughProhawkcough*), etc.

Also, I don't really see a whole lot to lynch Seanald over. Lots of stupidity, not a whole lot of scummy to me.

Speed-lynch.

WE HAD THREE DAYS TO LYNCH SOMEBODY!! YOU CANNOT DO ANYTHING -BUT- SPEEDLYNCH SOMEBODY IN THAT TIMEFRAME, YOU IDIOT!

No evidence

WISHY-WASHY-NESS/NON-COMMITTAL-NESS TO THE TWO LARGEST WAGONS AT THE TIME!

HOW ARE THOSE NOT EVIDENCE?!

I'd rather Voided not escape a lynch today, though. I'd support either.

You haven't yet explained why you suspect me, btw. Explain now.

I would totally consider switching my vote to right here.

If ProHawk's responses weren't scummy, I'd agree (if in part because I don't like the wagon that's formed on me).

Are you dumb?

Are YOU dumb?

Again, you never called her obvtown until 906. Hell, you never even call her town until then, either. Only that her one substantive post is one "from newer players" and that you "won't vote [Hermy]" (presumably because of newbpost).

No, you do NOT get to play that game. ABSOLUTELY NOT!

Speaking of which, we advertized Market Analyst last night like we said we would.

Are you worried people would have doubted you?

Are you seriously pushing this as a scum tell?

Agreed with Harakiri.

Just because the game hasn't finished doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

That's kinda talking about ongoing games, though, which I think is partially what he's getting at.

None of those seem to indicate you thought they were obvtown, just obvnewbie, the last one says you didnt think they were scum, but that's as good as saying they are null.

Exactly.

I'd say his refusal, blatant refusal, to vote Hermy day one is a pretty good indication that he believed hermy was town. Just saying.

Okay, fine, he thought Hermy was town. Then explain 906. Town=/="obvtown" by any stretch of the imagination.

[morph the cat]

Vote: ProHawk

^Scumclaim.

Btw ffery would vig you because you're scum.

[zMuffinMan]

DO you disagree with any of the townreads in that list?

completely null on banakai - i'm not reading his initial posts the same way you apparently are.
prohawk i'm still sorting. not a town read, though.
LB and garuda i don't feel anywhere near as strongly about as you apparently do. i liked some of mina's posts in the later portion of D1, but that's about it for LB. garuda i'm really meh on right now. i didn't really like nacho's reasoning for the voided town read and i don't remember much the empire head has done outside of iioa.

apart from the klick scum read and some of the null reads, most of your other reads are in line with my own.

[ProHawk]

WE HAD THREE DAYS TO LYNCH SOMEBODY!! YOU CANNOT DO ANYTHING -BUT- SPEEDLYNCH SOMEBODY IN THAT TIMEFRAME, YOU IDIOT!

And this didn't worry you in the least? Mafia 101.

[Lord Mhork]

My .02 is that Hermy was far from obvtown. I mean I figured he'd probably flip town, but he also was an easy target with definite scum on the wagon.

I also really don't get why Voided is getting so much hate. His posts have always been giving me the good feels.

VOTE: ProHawk