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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:22 pm

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In post 949, Lord Mhork wrote:My .02 is that Hermy was far from obvtown.
I mean I figured he'd probably flip town, but he also was an easy target with definite scum on the wagon.

I also really don't get why Voided is getting so much hate. His posts have always been giving me the good feels.

VOTE: ProHawk
This is literally all mention of Hermy and the Hermy wagon in your ISO:
In post 748, Lord Mhork wrote:Uh... I guess I'm considering voting Hermy, though I don't really like how the wagon came out of nowhere >.<

More thoughts tomorrow after I sleep and whatnot.
In post 835, Lord Mhork wrote:VOTE: Hermy

I'm not convinced that I'll be on tomorrow come deadline.
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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:22 pm

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So who are the scum on the hermy wagon, given that you're voting for a vocal opponent of said wagon?
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Post Post #952 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:24 pm

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In post 947, zMuffinMan wrote:
morph wrote:DO you disagree with any of the townreads in that list?
completely null on banakai - i'm not reading his initial posts the same way you apparently are.
More data is going to either change my mind or consolidate my read.
prohawk i'm still sorting. not a town read, though.
I'll be very surprised if our consensus on him is wrong. Some of our other consensus reads could be off, though, I guess.
LB and garuda i don't feel anywhere near as strongly about as you apparently do. i liked some of mina's posts in the later portion of D1, but that's about it for LB. garuda i'm really meh on right now. i didn't really like nacho's reasoning for the voided town read and i don't remember much the empire head has done outside of iioa.
There's a reasonably high gut component to my reads of those two, but like I said, our speculations about the night 2 purchases point to our being right about some of our stronger town reads.
apart from the klick scum read and some of the null reads, most of your other reads are in line with my own.
What did you think of Klick's back-off of prohawk after we snarled?
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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:24 pm

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In post 949, Lord Mhork wrote:I mean I figured he'd probably flip town, but he also was an easy target with definite scum on the wagon.
If you are town, this is why this game is a shoe-in for scum.
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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:26 pm

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In post 953, ProHawk wrote:
In post 949, Lord Mhork wrote:I mean I figured he'd probably flip town, but he also was an easy target with definite scum on the wagon.
If you are town
, this is why this game is a shoe-in for scum.
It's ok hawkie I don't think he is.
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:30 pm

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ProHawk, please respond to Post #933.
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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:31 pm

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Uh... Scum could definitely be Harakiri. PV is also sketch. And just 'cause I didn't mention it doesn't mean anything. It was a flash wagon. Granted there wasn't much we could do about it, but as far as flashwagons go we could have done worse.

ProHawk, what do you mean?

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Still super town, morph. I'm not scum. Haven't been for awhile.
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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:34 pm

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prohawk wrote:And this didn't worry you in the least? Mafia 101.
...

this is a really dumb question.
morph wrote:What did you think of Klick's back-off of prohawk after we snarled?
i don't think it has anything to do with you "snarling"
morph wrote:It's ok hawkie I don't think he is.
you changed your mind about mhork?
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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:35 pm

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In post 956, Lord Mhork wrote:Uh... Scum could definitely be Harakiri. PV is also sketch.
Explain both of these. Why did you feel it apt to vote the popular hawk wagon if you think hara-kiri definitely could be scum? What is sketch about PV?
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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:36 pm

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In post 933, Klick wrote:Then why aren't you voting me? The same logic applies.
Nope, don't see what you are getting at here.

Also, all of the points I made for Hermy being new were arguments in a discussion on why I didn't vote Hermy over Harakiri, so contextually it should be pretty obvious I thought she was town. And Obv-town because I was willing to no-lynch over lynch someone who I knew would flip town. Did that answer your question?

P-EDIT: It was about a dumb a question as you saying it was a dumb question was dumb.
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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:39 pm

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I'm probably going to regret this, but yeah I'm going to disagree with Nat, I dont really think prohawk is scum
Unvote

He had terrible reasons for pushing us? Yes, but he also had terrible reasons for pushing me in xenologue (from what i remember at least)
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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:40 pm

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In post 957, zMuffinMan wrote:you changed your mind about mhork?
Please don't walk through my lines of questioning, they're known to unravel if you paw at them.
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:42 pm

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Harakiri gives me bad vibes and I figure there are 1 or two scums. PoE says it's probably one of those two. And I agree that hawk's Hermy obv town thing was weird and bad. Plus there are still two scum teams right?
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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:42 pm

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In post 961, morph the cat wrote:
In post 957, zMuffinMan wrote:you changed your mind about mhork?
Please don't walk through my lines of questioning, they're known to unravel if you paw at them.
Which one of you posted this?
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:43 pm

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In post 962, Lord Mhork wrote:Harakiri gives me bad vibes and I figure there are 1 or two scums. PoE says it's probably one of those two. And I agree that hawk's Hermy obv town thing was weird and bad. Plus there are still two scum teams right?
Walk me through how you eliminated the others on the wagon, please.
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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:44 pm

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In post 963, Pyrotechnics wrote:
In post 961, morph the cat wrote:
In post 957, zMuffinMan wrote:you changed your mind about mhork?
Please don't walk through my lines of questioning, they're known to unravel if you paw at them.
Which one of you posted this?
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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:46 pm

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So why do you care what head posted that, and why are you avoiding even talking to us about your reads and how many overlap with ours?
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:46 pm

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Reads based on today only:

TOWN: ProHawk, Mhork, Pyro
NULL: Muffin, Hara
SCUM: Voided, morph

I'm building up evidence for a nice case on morph that I'll eventually post, probably some time this game day.
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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:47 pm

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In post 965, morph the cat wrote:
In post 963, Pyrotechnics wrote:
In post 961, morph the cat wrote:
In post 957, zMuffinMan wrote:you changed your mind about mhork?
Please don't walk through my lines of questioning, they're known to unravel if you paw at them.
Which one of you posted this?
Cabd only because I beat ffery to it.
You said it much more nicely than I would have.
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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:47 pm

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Phone posting is a bitch but someone asked me why I voted Voided now and it's low effort sheeping because I'm bad. I need to reassess a lot of stuff.
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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:48 pm

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In post 956, Lord Mhork wrote: ProHawk, what do you mean?
You answered your own question.
In post 956, Lord Mhork wrote: Granted there wasn't much we could do about it, but as far as flashwagons go we could have done worse.
You have a defeatist attitude. You are willing to let others dictate what is done. The "There wasn't much we could do" is a farce, and maybe if you would have taken a stand against lynching someone you felt was going to flip town, something could have been done to get an actual scum-lynch. This is why I said if you are town, you are handing the game on a silver platter.
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Post Post #971 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:49 pm

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In post 967, Klick wrote:Reads based on today only:

TOWN: ProHawk, Mhork, Pyro
NULL: Muffin, Hara
SCUM: Voided, morph

I'm building up evidence for a nice case on morph that I'll eventually post, probably some time this game day.
heh.

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Post Post #972 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:50 pm

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Morph, would one of you mind posting a link to a completed town game of your hydra? Just one of your choice.
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Post Post #973 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:51 pm

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In post 837, Garuda wrote:I haven't talked to Nacho yet to confirm but I want to advertise Bulletproof since Hawk's covering Doc.
In post 855, Voidedmafia wrote:
I'll advertise bulletproof.
Nice misinformation, Voided.

ProHawk wagon is stupid. (Sure enough, Voided gets on it to save himself, like he did with Hermy yesterday.)
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Post Post #974 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:51 pm

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Also I don't get why people are voting ProHawk? Overstating a correct read after the fact isn't scummy (it's something I've done A LOT as town) and the fact that he seemingly preferred a no lynch is pretty clear evidence that he did actually believe Hermy was obvtown, come on.

Plus a lot of his posts today remind me of Xenologue, will explain when at my PC.
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