Marketplace Mafia III - Game Over

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

Im only up to page 5. Would someone just be kind enough to recap? This might take a while

Though I will say this. Exactly what motivation does scum have in claiming they toom Investigation Immunity to keep it "away from scum"? Wouldnt it be easier to just shut up and not say anything as scum? LB is probs town for that imo.

Have you seen the flip yet? If you haven't, you should give us your opinion on Hermy.

[Lost Butterfly]

Harakiri are town, that's cool.

[morph the cat]

Right. One question. Then a vote. And you expect sweetness and light?

The time for sweetness and light vanished roundabouts the time you started slandering our character. Which, most curiously, happened way before your reach out. If one could call it such.

Okay.

I'm still waiting for someone with 2 brain cells to rub together to LOOK AT LAST NIGHT'S AUCTION and show the slightest indication that they see what we see in that, and what it means about the stronger players in this game. Because that one piece of hard evidence is more persuasive than all the walls I will ever write in this game.

Hey, maybe you could be that somebody.

Curious, how this fails to address just about anything I've said thus far. Why should I give a rat's fuck about game mechanics when you're right here, dodging every damn thing I say?

Because I'm telling you I think it's pretty damn significant?

I angsted through day 1 of the cashcabd game, made my decision, and it all fell together from there.

Any angst i have about Nacho I'll work out with my partner. You're spared this time.

So, cashcabd made you a Nacho expert? And all your paranoia vanished, just like that? In fact, show me a time where you EVER stopped scumhunting because someone told you someone else was town.

That game plus some events here and there in other games has kinda restored my confidence that I can get a decent read unless he's being completely oblique, which he sometimes does. He's not being oblique in this game.

Actually, scratch that. Nacho never called us town before you made your lovely "oh they're clearly village idiot town" post. In fact, neither you nor Nacho ever had ANY indication of EVER scumreading us. Both you and he have made comments to the effect of "Pyro is dumb" and "holy fuck recalibrate Syr's scumdar". In fact, the only person that mentioned a townread on us from that slot was Empire, who posted it long before Nacho ever even posted in thread. The only thing Nacho posted w.r.t. us is that we had "crazy town ideas" and that we seemed "abnormally pessimistic".

So guess what? Your whole "I'm disregarding my red flags because Nacho's town as fuck and says you're town" is a crock of shit. What's your next excuse?

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I'll have to go back and reread to even see if I can agree that there's some basis for this characterization. I'll let you know when that's done.

[Pyrotechnics]

I have a strong town read of LB and your arguments with Faraday and Mina looked just so wrongheaded that I couldn't wrap my head around where you're coming from. The MS gambiting culture is foreign to me, and I'll probably never speak it fluently. But, even I can usually figure out the probable motivation behind a lot of the gambits I see here.

Why do you think we were gambiting? What was wrongheaded about my arguments? What specifically caused you to not understand?

It's not one player saying whoa. It's web of players disagreeing with you on different reads. There's some non-zero chance that we're all scum messing with your head, I guess. But, I wouldn't assume that's the case. Personally, I'd be trying to figure out if there's something in my town reads that has thrown me off. Because sometimes it happens.

Why do our town reads have anything to do with our scumreads on you? Why do you assume that we assume "you're all" scum? Who is "we all" when you say "we're all scum messing with your head"?

[Lost Butterfly]

I'm still waiting for someone with 2 brain cells to rub together to LOOK AT LAST NIGHT'S AUCTION and show the slightest indication that they see what we see in that, and what it means about the stronger players in this game. Because that one piece of hard evidence is more persuasive than all the walls I will ever write in this game.

I've worked this out despite my small brian!!!

[Lost Butterfly]

Although we actually took something different from the auction w/r/t your slot.

[morph the cat]

I'm still waiting for someone with 2 brain cells to rub together to LOOK AT LAST NIGHT'S AUCTION and show the slightest indication that they see what we see in that, and what it means about the stronger players in this game. Because that one piece of hard evidence is more persuasive than all the walls I will ever write in this game.

I've worked this out despite my small brian!!!

My brain may very well be smaller than yours! But I was pretty excited when I did the math.

[morph the cat]

I have a strong town read of LB and your arguments with Faraday and Mina looked just so wrongheaded that I couldn't wrap my head around where you're coming from. The MS gambiting culture is foreign to me, and I'll probably never speak it fluently. But, even I can usually figure out the probable motivation behind a lot of the gambits I see here.

Why do you think we were gambiting? What was wrongheaded about my arguments? What specifically caused you to not understand?

We didn't think you gambited. I'm talking about Mina's gambit.

It's not one player saying whoa. It's web of players disagreeing with you on different reads. There's some non-zero chance that we're all scum messing with your head, I guess. But, I wouldn't assume that's the case. Personally, I'd be trying to figure out if there's something in my town reads that has thrown me off. Because sometimes it happens.

Why do our town reads have anything to do with our scumreads on you? Why do you assume that we assume "you're all" scum? Who is "we all" when you say "we're all scum messing with your head"?

You're scumreading LB. I get the impression your read of garuka is null at best, but maybe I'm wrong. And you're scumreading us.

[Pyrotechnics]

Hey, Tammy, remember when I townread Lost Butterfly and you just completely ignored said read and didn't even bother to ask me about why I was reading them as town or anything of the sort despite my repeated insistence of it? Because I sure do and man did that own.

Well considering that you said earlier that you wanted to quote a particular post of Mina's and claim that that post was why she was town, I have a pretty good indication of why you're saying she's town.

How many games have you played with Mina as scum? How many times have you been fooled by Mina as scum? Because if you could count those times and point out why the rant post she made just wouldn't come from her as scum even though I've seen her make posts that sound like that as scum, that would own. Also, considering her other head isn't exactly doing other than trolling, I'm not confident.

Also, I'm not exactly reading you as town, so your reads are being taken with a grain of salt.

[Pyrotechnics]

Because I'm telling you I think it's pretty damn significant?

So, now game mechanics are more important to you than scumhunting? Man, it's like you've completely trashed the last eight months of your own town meta.

Besides which, you know full well how I get once I get a head of steam on a scumread. Why on earth would you even attempt to deflect me with this, or assume I give a rats arse about what you see in auctions when I'm totally convinced you're scum?

That game plus some events here and there in other games has kinda restored my confidence that I can get a decent read unless he's being completely oblique, which he sometimes does. He's not being oblique in this game.

So, you now can magically read Nacho, unless he's being "oblique". Interesting. An ISO chock-full of "I like this"s and "I don't like that's" and other terse and, to use your words, oblique statements, you're so confident that he's town. Hmm. Especially considering all your interactions with his slot up to the point of calling us morons rather assumes he's town. Even more interesting!

I'll have to go back and reread to even see if I can agree that there's some basis for this characterization. I'll let you know when that's done.

I bet Cabd is hating his life so much right now.

[Lost Butterfly]

Also, considering her other head isn't exactly doing other than trolling, I'm not confident.

Pretty sure Mina has only one head. Care to comment on why you're trying to portray her as some sort of mutant?

[Pyrotechnics]

I have a strong town read of LB and your arguments with Faraday and Mina looked just so wrongheaded that I couldn't wrap my head around where you're coming from. The MS gambiting culture is foreign to me, and I'll probably never speak it fluently. But, even I can usually figure out the probable motivation behind a lot of the gambits I see here.

Why do you think we were gambiting? What was wrongheaded about my arguments? What specifically caused you to not understand?

We didn't think you gambited. I'm talking about Mina's gambit.

You didn't answer my questions

It's not one player saying whoa. It's web of players disagreeing with you on different reads. There's some non-zero chance that we're all scum messing with your head, I guess. But, I wouldn't assume that's the case. Personally, I'd be trying to figure out if there's something in my town reads that has thrown me off. Because sometimes it happens.

Why do our town reads have anything to do with our scumreads on you? Why do you assume that we assume "you're all" scum? Who is "we all" when you say "we're all scum messing with your head"?

You're scumreading LB. I get the impression your read of garuka is null at best, but maybe I'm wrong. And you're scumreading us.[/quote][/quote]
I'll ask again: what do our townreads have to do with scumreading you and LB for entirely separate reasons?

[morph the cat]

I bet Cabd is hating his life so much right now.

Actually I was out to dinner (well, midnight snack really but whatever) but now it's just /popcorn.

[morph the cat]

Because I'm telling you I think it's pretty damn significant?

So, now game mechanics are more important to you than scumhunting? Man, it's like you've completely trashed the last eight months of your own town meta.

Besides which, you know full well how I get once I get a head of steam on a scumread. Why on earth would you even attempt to deflect me with this, or assume I give a rats arse about what you see in auctions when I'm totally convinced you're scum?

That game plus some events here and there in other games has kinda restored my confidence that I can get a decent read unless he's being completely oblique, which he sometimes does. He's not being oblique in this game.

So, you now can magically read Nacho, unless he's being "oblique". Interesting. An ISO chock-full of "I like this"s and "I don't like that's" and other terse and, to use your words, oblique statements, you're so confident that he's town. Hmm. Especially considering all your interactions with his slot up to the point of calling us morons rather assumes he's town. Even more interesting!

I'll have to go back and reread to even see if I can agree that there's some basis for this characterization. I'll let you know when that's done.

I bet Cabd is hating his life so much right now.

I'm really sorry I feel this way. But, I don't want to put any more effort into working this out right now.

[Lost Butterfly]

P.s. trolling is a town tell for Faraday.

~Mina.

[Garuda]

Hey, Tammy, remember when I townread Lost Butterfly and you just completely ignored said read and didn't even bother to ask me about why I was reading them as town or anything of the sort despite my repeated insistence of it? Because I sure do and man did that own.

Well considering that you said earlier that you wanted to quote a particular post of Mina's and claim that that post was why she was town, I have a pretty good indication of why you're saying she's town.

How many games have you played with Mina as scum? How many times have you been fooled by Mina as scum? Because if you could count those times and point out why the rant post she made just wouldn't come from her as scum even though I've seen her make posts that sound like that as scum, that would own. Also, considering her other head isn't exactly doing other than trolling, I'm not confident.

Also, I'm not exactly reading you as town, so your reads are being taken with a grain of salt.

I'm fairly sure that my townread on them came well before that post, so no that's not really the complete picture and you didn't even bother to ask for why so try again.
I've hydra'd with both of those players as town before so I do consider myself pretty capable of reading them and what they are/aren't capable of as scum (well admittedly way less so with Faraday), thanks.
And really, though, I'm just tired of dealing with this shit from you in seemingly every game onwards so either you'll read me as town eventually or I can just laugh in the post game as I revoke your ability to correctly nail the easiest meta read on the site. In the mean time, I'll go on and try to you know actually win the game and stuff.

Anyway, bedtime for real now.

[Harakiri]

I bet Cabd is hating his life so much right now.

Actually I was out to dinner (well, midnight snack really but whatever) but now it's just /popcorn.

All the fire and brimstone's gone to me.

[Pyrotechnics]

It's not one player saying whoa. It's web of players disagreeing with you on different reads. There's some non-zero chance that we're all scum messing with your head, I guess. But, I wouldn't assume that's the case. Personally, I'd be trying to figure out if there's something in my town reads that has thrown me off. Because sometimes it happens.

Why do our town reads have anything to do with our scumreads on you? Why do you assume that we assume "you're all" scum? Who is "we all" when you say "we're all scum messing with your head"?

You're scumreading LB. I get the impression your read of garuka is null at best, but maybe I'm wrong. And you're scumreading us.

I'll ask again: what do our townreads have to do with scumreading you and LB for entirely separate reasons?

Fixin le quotes

[morph the cat]

I have a strong town read of LB and your arguments with Faraday and Mina looked just so wrongheaded that I couldn't wrap my head around where you're coming from. The MS gambiting culture is foreign to me, and I'll probably never speak it fluently. But, even I can usually figure out the probable motivation behind a lot of the gambits I see here.

Why do you think we were gambiting? What was wrongheaded about my arguments? What specifically caused you to not understand?

We didn't think you gambited. I'm talking about Mina's gambit.

You didn't answer my questions

It's not one player saying whoa. It's web of players disagreeing with you on different reads. There's some non-zero chance that we're all scum messing with your head, I guess. But, I wouldn't assume that's the case. Personally, I'd be trying to figure out if there's something in my town reads that has thrown me off. Because sometimes it happens.

Why do our town reads have anything to do with our scumreads on you? Why do you assume that we assume "you're all" scum? Who is "we all" when you say "we're all scum messing with your head"?

You're scumreading LB. I get the impression your read of garuka is null at best, but maybe I'm wrong. And you're scumreading us.

[/quote]
I'll ask again: what do our townreads have to do with scumreading you and LB for entirely separate reasons?[/quote]

Last answer tonight.

It's not your townreads. It's your scumreads.

[zMuffinMan]

please stop

1110 is the only post in the last 4 pages i enjoyed reading

[Pyrotechnics]

Last answer tonight.

It's not your townreads. It's your scumreads.

That's quite literally not what you said.

[zMuffinMan]

In other news, I am talking to drunk-Nacho right now and he agrees with my townreads on LB / Pyro / ProHawk / morph (he's more confident on the last one than I am apparently) so that's good.

did you tell him you're voting voided? what did he say about that?

[Harakiri]

please stop

1110 is the only post in the last 4 pages i enjoyed reading

Muffin

My shining knight in the darkness.

Hold me.

[Pyrotechnics]

Oh yeah, and how'd that reread go?

[Pyrotechnics]

Tammy, when you're done pretending to Tammtrum, I want to know why you stopped talking about the Neighborizer.

Well yesterday when I tried to get something organized about the neighborizer, I got trolled and characterized as a fragmenting Vi. You, in the midst of our argument accused me of scumslipping. I've been told that I didn't actually try to get town to work together yesterday even though I actually did.

I give up.

Peregrine has the neighborizer. If you want to know about the neighborizer ask him.