Micro 246: Chosen Mafia (N2!)

[Bert]

I skimmed last night and I don't know yet!

Mastin and Nacho, one of them feels like it has to be scum. It gut-wise doesn't feel like town vs. town. Mastin's plan of playing as if the strong players are all town, that just pinged me beyond belief. And Nacho, I'm paranoid because Mastin is attacking him and made a case. Lol

TIP rings scummy but I don't know if that's my paranoia speaking or how naturally scummy he comes off as. Everyone else I didn't have much of an impression of! Need more skimming. I'm late to the party and still need lots of things to develop <3

[Tammy]

nacho what do you think about [url=http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=350] mastin [/post] ?

[Tammy]

fracking hell this post

[Tammy]

i'm forming my block now.
i'm interested in what tammy has to say.

I'm surprised at the sos kill at this point. I think it would be too easy to go after sos for their day one reads. Obv their magenta read was wrong; it would be easy to manipulate. Have to look back to see if it's actually anything though.

You're town, Projectmatt is probably town. I'd love to hear your feedback on mastin and tip. I know SoS can't really read TiP but Mara can and she was waffling. That has me concerned.

[Tammy]

1. Nachomamma8
4. Tammy
5. Darger
6. phokdapolees
7. projectmatt
8. TheIrishPope

Brief thoughts, but basically--
Tammy doesn't particularly look town to me, but I kinda have a feeling she is. Her aura seems to portray that town alignment, and the interactions with others look like those of a town player.
Projectmatt remains a player I've got pegged as mislynch bait--that is, scummy, but town.
TIP is a player who

could

be scum, but I don't think

is

scum.

And that leaves, for two scum slots, Darger, phok, and Nacho.

Now I would absolutely love to be wrong about Nacho being scum, but thing is, I don't think I am. The two dead players (ffery and Mara) both know Nacho incredibly well. (Granted, SoS was a near-universal townread, so that's an equally-probable cause for nightkill. But still, ffery dieing N1

always

makes me paranoid of Nacho. )

Both phok and darker are basically non-entities in the game. Both can be scum, both via POE and just overall lack of contribution. IF I'm right about Nacho being scum, I lean towards it being Darger, because I don't think Nacho would defend phok the way he did if they were both scum. (Granted, it's theoretically possible Nacho would be town and wrong about phok, with phok as scum. I just don't think it's true.)

I don't really get this though. I didn't post at all past that first night, so the majority of what I did was push you and nacho early day one and wasn't around for the mara push. So, what have I done to have the aura of town? And why are your scum reads two people who have barely posted and Nacho, who if sure yes if the mara hydra had flipped chosen I'd be totally with you on paranoia station but they didn't, so I don't see the push being anything other than what he actually thought. But I just think that he's doing his rare really involved day one town play that I wouldn't expect if he's scum. I mean I guess if he dips low and all of a sudden gets disengaged that's a thing, but I don't get your poe pool coming out of day one as it looks like it's disjointed with how day one actually played out.

[Tammy]

I realize that the latter half of SoS's iso is basically Magenta-TIP being a scumteam, and not on Nacho. But I don't think a scum-TIP makes that kill. At least, not a scum-TIP who makes that kill for the reasoning of being scumread by that slot. As much as my faith in TIP's abilities as a scum player have been shaken, I don't think he's THAT stupid. Sure, yeah, could be because of any number of factors. Universal townread, strong player, likely to figure things out after seeing the magenta townflip*, and so on and so forth. But those are null because they apply to every player, and not TIP specifically.

*This one's a biggie.

So although everyone would make that kill regardless of anything, scum TiP wouldn't make it because? I'm not following.

[Tammy]

I'm caught up...yay me!

Nacho is town. Projectmatt is probstown.

I want to believe that mastin is town, and I'll wiat to hear what nacho says on this, though I don't have high hopes based on what I think is weird suspicion coming from him.

Nacho - what do you think of Bert so far? I kinda like him.

But I think that literally leaves my lynch pool of phokdapolees and TiP and that can't be right. I have to be misreading somewhere or overlooking someone as town that I shouldn't be.

I have some other games to catch up in tonight, but this weekend I'll iso some people to try to nail down my thoughts.

[Bert]

Tammy you better not be scum with Nacho lol

But yeah Mastin does seem off, so does Tip, and I say this with only gut feelings and one thorough skim from last night.

I had no impression of you Tammy throughout this game in one skim so I have no idea. <3

I also learned from 527 Hard Boiled not to sheep SOS's reads too easily after they got NKed while thinking salmonella was scum.

[Tammy]

I wish if I were scum it would be with Nacho as that would probably be fun <3

You probably shouldn't have any idea of me Bert. I was only here for the first night then everything went kabloohey.

[phokdapolees]

V/LA until tomorrow night

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho seems to be burlesquing his town aggression, reminds me of 1489

Then why are you still voting me?

Bert, you've played with me before. I'm the lesser half of Calcifer, for instance.

(Still think your slot's scum, by the way, though admittedly...you're player I'm least-familiar with.)

Don't ignore me.

Holy shit nacho's town.

I thought that push on magenta was incredibly town, yeah. I'm unsure if mastin isn't picking up on it because he thinks he can swing a lynch on me or because he thinks it will get him towncred from me or because he's not seeing it, although I lean that he's just not seeing it.

fracking hell this post

Page 15 was a pretty good page I guess?

I'd love to hear your feedback on mastin and tip. I know SoS can't really read TiP but Mara can and she was waffling. That has me concerned.

I'm pretty concerned about TIP as well. I'm feeling OK about mastin-town, but he's missing a few things that he should be picking up on. Mostly, I just want him to show me his thought process as far as Nacho-scum is concerned; yes, ffery died N1. Yes, I ended up lynching the hell out of town. But the last time I was this ruffled was in adventure time mafia when we were pushing the hell out of Timeater-town while trying to save the town from destroying themselves. Mastin also had a pretty personal of the awesome scumgame I played in Bingo, and got an intimate look at my scum thought process as scum. He

knows

that tone is the weakest part of my scumgame because I'm too planny, and he knows that it would be a god-tier breakthrough if I pulled off that mislynch as scum.

But mastin-scum also knows when I expect him to townread me (he did it at a pretty good time in Walking Dead), so I don't think he would pull this with me if he was scum? And his day 1 play was pretty obnoxiously town, I just have tiny niggles that hold me back on him although I really, really shouldn't be.

Nacho - what do you think of Bert so far? I kinda like him.

He's taking a little too long to get into the game for my liking.
His vote on me while calling me town is weird as fuck, his fake catchup post had nothing but the read on me and the read on mastin, and then he calls mastin scum but then waffles on him being scum because he has a reputation for being a good player (also weird). His "ffery makes sense as a Nacho kill although it's all WIFOM" strikes me as strange, his "one of Mastin/Nacho is scum" is strange, and he hasn't reached out to me yet/caught up. I want him to catch up.

[Bert]

I AM CAUGHT UP YOU SCUMBAG

[Bert]

Then why are you still voting me?

I NEED YOUR LOVE DUH

He's taking a little too long to get into the game for my liking.
His vote on me while calling me town is weird as fuck, his fake catchup post had nothing but the read on me and the read on mastin, and then he calls mastin scum but then waffles on him being scum because he has a reputation for being a good player (also weird). His "ffery makes sense as a Nacho kill although it's all WIFOM" strikes me as strange, his "one of Mastin/Nacho is scum" is strange, and he hasn't reached out to me yet/caught up. I want him to catch up.

I DID NOT TAKE LONG I CAME IN RIGHT AWAY AND TALKED WHAT THE HECK NACHO LOVE

I did not call you town!! I HAVE NO SOLID READS I MENTIONED THAT BEFORE ALREADY

I ALWAYS WAFFLE THAT IS NOT A SCUMTELL

Sorry forgot to turn caps lock off. All better?

I AM CAUGHT UP

You suck.

[Bert]

Nacho is town.

This makes me feel a lot better. Unless you drew scum with Nacho, to which I say WHAT DID I DO TO DESERVE THIS MUCKERY!

[Nachomamma8]

I AM CAUGHT UP

What are your reads?

[Nachomamma8]

I HAVE NO SOLID READS I MENTIONED THAT BEFORE ALREADY

i don't care if they are solid or not.

[Bert]

He's taking a little too long to get into the game for my liking.

OH yeah?? Well guess who has been AWAY from this game since I replaced in?? How many people have been V/LA??? One post in the first 24 hours after I replaced in and posted?? What kind of greeting is that, huh??

You are one bold mister, love, you are one bold mister, would you like me to take a fish from Monty Python and put it down your shirt??

I will do this!! Don't make me, DARLING

[Bert]

i don't care if they are solid or not.

You uncaring careless honey!!!!!!!! Exclamation point!

Don't like phok, don't like mastin, really don't like mastin did I mention that???

like Tammy but she is such a sweetheart I cannot call her scum, projectmatt seems natural and 1489 ish but I'd like to see some poetry first to sweeten and butter me up,

TIP seems scum, gut wise I'd really like to vote him but he seems like an easy lynch and there are strong players bigger fish to fry you know what I mean love?

And YOU I have no idea in hell but I'd like to dance with you if you'll dance with me

I'm going to a homecoming formal tonight I NEVER GO TO DANCES THIS IS MY FIRST EVER WHAT DID I DO TOMYSELF OMG but like I have to wear a suit so today is a great day to dance with me. Dance with me???????? And if i forgot someone it's because they are not in this game and they should just die

[Nachomamma8]

yeah i like bert too

[Bert]

It's hard to tell when he hasn't even given an actual reason for his vote yet. He says that he wants to discuss it, but he's not giving anything to discuss. It seems slightly scummy at this point, like he's just trying to seem town by saying "hey, let's discuss my vote," without giving anything to work with, but I still want him to state his reasoning.

It's his assertiveness here that rings as scum, it's hard to explain, an intuitive thing if you know what I mean love

SO basically

Phok's confidence

so like

<Phok, mastin>

And TIP? I may be so off, and if so I'm probably off on Matt

MAYBE you but you seem town with your interactinos with me so far but I can't tell if you just twant to reach out to me and push me down to downer ground so

that is where I stand

LOVE BERT

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: Jacob

[Bert]

Vote: Irish "Jacob" Pope

YEAH NACHO BABY YEAHHHHHHH I GOT YO BACK

CAT GOT YOUR TONGUE I GOT YO BACK

<333333333333

[Nachomamma8]

So you do think i'm town

[Bert]

So you do think i'm town

YEAH BOY

GOT A PROBLEM WITH DAT? But you did ignore my request to dance

BUT you were so wrong about Mara like you were in masons and monks darling

that is a very darling-er tell that you are not invincible and you are not perfect and that you are a living human and not an alien <3

[Bert]

your reach-out to me rings really genuine though, it's not like 527 Hard Boiled where you just said

"FUCKING TALK TO ME YOUNG MAN" or "hinting at how I don't look town, etc., etc."

or 189 where you flat out ignored me IGNORED ME I TELL YA