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Post Post #1850 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:05 am

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In post 1846, Bert wrote:if not for that replacement Kaze would not be here now
I know right? If I had not come in you would have gotten the mislynch easily and would have pushed Cabd today. Too bad I ruined your plans.
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Post Post #1851 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:07 am

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In post 1847, Bert wrote:after the way he has tunneled me
Way to misrep me. I simply stated you are my top scumread over the other two. I didn't even vote you. That's hardly a tunnel.
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Post Post #1852 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:14 am

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Well thisi s going around in circles now, 1850 and 1851 (1851 - you voted me after I voted you)

Since I gotta go to lunch now,

I just want to say that regardless of the outcome of today,

I am here also to prove that I don't always completely freak out as town when I'm engaged and under pressure,
so if I can stay not completely freaked out and not willing to run away (which i have done OK so far D3), then all in all this isn't all bad.

And if you win, good game and you did a great job replacing in. Sorry I just wanted to say that because I'm still ashamed of bringing IRL in.

And I want afterwards regardless of the outcome to be proud that I did not (ego-wise) give in and I did not back down. So I will do that much for myself here, what I failed to do in Popcorn. That's a reason I'm supposed to be here is what I'm saying. It's a chance to redeem myself. So far I'm doing ok so this isn't all bad, it proves that when I'm engaged whcih happens in like 10% of my games, that I don't always do this and bring myself to shame

trying to stay positive here Bert <333333

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Post Post #1853 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:15 am

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^and if you make fun of that post or call it out, just do it and I don't really care at this point, I kinda expect it tbh

it's like desensitizing, it helps me I think for all the times I will be attacked until this day is over, and for the future it's helpful too, the better I can combat pressure from threats
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Post Post #1854 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:16 am

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you can say whatever you want but I'm not the kind of guy to bring in my IRL issues and use it against people as scum. I have a conscience, and you know when I roll scum I try to emulate my play best I can to give them a challenge to hunt.

But IRL issues I just cannot bring myself down to that level, I can't I would replace out before i ever did something as dirty as that. And Wisdom and ns I don't care if you bring me down for that. And that town flail D1 is as genuine as I can get, you had me no the ropes yall, I freaked out big time

Ffery and Sakura are my only chance now since they are town I believe that 100%
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Post Post #1855 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:19 am

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I voted you because your vote was not warranted and proved you're scum. Prior to your vote I had just expressed my scumread on you, but it was simply in comparison to my reads on the other two. I did not tunnel in any way.


Btw I guess you're claiming that ns is your buddy since you're buddying ffery so much, which is also unwarranted.
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Post Post #1856 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:24 am

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In post 1855, Wisdom wrote:Btw I guess you're claiming that ns is your buddy since you're buddying ffery so much, which is also unwarranted.
If I was Bert's buddy why would Bert be my higher-tier scumread?
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Post Post #1857 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:26 am

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Why wouldn't he?
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Post Post #1858 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:45 am

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3.02With 5 alive it's 3 votes to lynch.

Voting for:


*Fferyllt -
*Bert - Wisdom [1]
*Wisdom - Bert [1]
*Sakura Hana -
*notscience -

Not voting: Fferyllt, notscience, Sakura Hana [3]


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Post Post #1859 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:45 am

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=31914

@Ffery this is the game where I was basically pleading with Falcon when he had the gun, and I also got fake-shot in that game as reaction test, but in the end of the game Cabd talks to us and tells Falcon how I was obvtown and he could tell I was town, yada yada yada. That's why I was so paranoid and so sure Cabd was scum, the way he talks as if he can read me easily.
In post 193, Cabd wrote:Lucky was kinda obviously scum from an outside perspective fwiw.
In post 195, Cabd wrote:I can ~usually~ tell when nacho is or is not faking sincerity, and or bert too; and their begging feirei to shoot them was legit. Given you were confirmed town, lucky was scum from POE
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Post Post #1860 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:47 am

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Hmm. Now he continues appealing to ffery after I pointed it out. Maybe it's on purpose after all.
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Post Post #1861 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:49 am

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Add to that after Castle where

in dead QT where everyone was reading me as town, he was telling Mara stuff like:

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/crKsTBGcbEgA

like "Lol. Mara continues to be easily fooled I see." message 101

Mara: "I'm dying in Bert's townietowntownieness" message 106

Cabd 108: "Then the reports of your death were greatly overstated, mara."

Cabd read me like a book, or at least he claimed to, and yet here he goes after me. Then he gloats after the game about how he watched his gf die on N1 and that he followed the game because of that and knew I was scum.

And yet here he couldn't peg me as town, when he supposedly could in Micro popcorn 243, or Mini 1489.
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Post Post #1862 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:50 am

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In post 1860, Wisdom wrote:Hmm. Now he continues appealing to ffery after I pointed it out. Maybe it's on purpose after all.
If you were town, you'd know this was on purpose. Yet you say "maybe"

lol....but you're scum, so....

and yet you say "maybe" and say you're town??

Ha, nice one
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Post Post #1863 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:51 am

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Cabd knew you are scum in that game when he made those QT posts
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Post Post #1864 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:52 am

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In post 1862, Bert wrote:
In post 1860, Wisdom wrote:Hmm. Now he continues appealing to ffery after I pointed it out. Maybe it's on purpose after all.
If you were town, you'd know this was on purpose. Yet you say "maybe"

lol....but you're scum, so....

and yet you say "maybe" and say you're town??

Ha, nice one
I don't know if you're doing it on purpose to hide your buddy or if ffery is town and you're appealing to her, nope.
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Post Post #1865 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:53 am

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In post 1863, Wisdom wrote:Cabd knew you are scum in that game when he made those QT posts
He told me in chat that my paranoia was super super super fake, post-game.

He also claimed to know tells that I can towntell or scumtell using, and even at the beginning of the game, he said I was town as fuck without stating why.
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Post Post #1866 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:53 am

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Willing to vote Wisdom


Other scum is ns, both ns and wisdom's posts feel faked while ffery's and bert's posts feel genuine.
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Post Post #1867 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:54 am

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Sakura ffs. Don't you fucking throw the game, Bert is obviously scum here.
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Post Post #1868 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:54 am

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In post 336, Cabd wrote: Bert is town as fuck so far, although he needs to learn to recognize drunkposting. He also replaced into a slot i townread.
This gave me the false impression that he could read me well, since I had just entered the game and he suddenly called me super town.

And then the later flip-flop and voting me just didn't make sense and made me really paranoid about him, sort of like Ffery-paranoia in 1415.
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Post Post #1869 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:58 am

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Sakura seriously, I do not want to lose to Bert again. Don't be stupid now.
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Post Post #1870 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:59 am

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In post 1867, Wisdom wrote:Sakura ffs. Don't you fucking throw the game, Bert is obviously scum here.
If anything you're the obvious scum, you went against Cabd with ns on D2 when he was obvtown.
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Post Post #1871 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:01 am

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How was he obvtown? He was literally asking to be lynched. The difference is that both me and ns went after him because we genuinely thought he's scum, but look at how Bert pushed his lynch after he saw there was support.
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Post Post #1872 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:02 am

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I feel like I'm being attacked for all of my posts, and some are being attacked for BS reasons. And now Wisdom is calling people who want to vote him stupid.

I already told you Wisdom that I brought IRL issues into this game, really personal stuff, and lashed out at Cabd with it, and I'm stil ashamed. If you think I'd do that as scum, I don't know what to tell you. Ivé said it time and time again that's super dirty play and I'd be blacklisted sitewide I know it

And I'd be lying if beneath my facade on D2 that I didn't waffle about Cabd, AtE really really gets to me and it's an effective tactic

I thought he was being manipulative and trying to manipulate Sakura and me with AtE since he knows how susceptible and how emotional touchy-feely I am

And part of it was big time just me not wanting to lose to Cabd and me knowing his reputation, and knowing that I could not live that down if he got by me because of AtE and that saved him and brought him to a perfect victory. The paranoia was beyond belief. And I tend to think Ffery's was legitimate too.

And notscience is just not receptive to anything today other than that I'm scum, and the interactinos with wisdom he's having are awkward.
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Post Post #1873 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:02 am

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Meanwhile ffery is lurking around waiting for you to vote me
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Post Post #1874 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:03 am

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In post 1871, Wisdom wrote:How was he obvtown? He was literally asking to be lynched. The difference is that both me and ns went after him because we genuinely thought he's scum, but look at how Bert pushed his lynch after he saw there was support.
I thought he was scum too...

I thought everything thought he was conftown, or at least a decent amount of people did or so it seemed

and so I gave up and had Kaze and Cabd as people I'm most suspicious of

I had ffery and notsci as pretty town, and agi102 who I was suspicious of as a newb passed person had just claimed cop and confirmed sakura

Kaze and Cabd were what I had left, and Kaze appealed AtE to me on D1 but had been a scumread

Cabd's going after me made no sense D1 and we had a huge discnonect. If you look back I clearly thought Cabd was scummy as hell and I felt pretty good taht he would flip scum.
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