Newbie 1436 ~ Game Over

[notscience]

Ah, thought you meant me/Wisdom.

Okay.

However, If you really think Sakura's opinion is going to change given who she's been tunneling all game, you're sorely mistaken.

[notscience]

But here's the thing, if you're scum, then die, if you're town, idc, but you still need to die, both of you.

[fferyllt]

That doesn't make a lot of sense.

[Sakura Hana]

ns why aren't you scumhunting.

[notscience]

Because I disengaged from the game.

[Sakura Hana]

So you get disengaged at LyLo?

[notscience]

Granted, I'll probably feel remorse for this post-game but meh, that's future-ns's problem

Yeah move this up to now.

[Bert]

So you get disengaged at LyLo?

(1) You're not stepping it up today, rather you're taking a step back

(2) You're just talking around me sorta, just making general comments about who's scum, your reads don't seem to be well-thought out. And talking as if Sakura won't change her mind, so therefore you shouldn't try, is such a cop-out.

(3) If you think there's any chance your reads are wrong or you want to firm your reads up, now is the time to be prodding around in the chance that there is a LYLO.

That's the impression I get from you, and your answers to Wisdom and others aren't very definitive, not much conviction. Have a headache now so can't skim now, but will be back late tonight as usual to talk to everyone.

[Bert]

So you get disengaged at LyLo?

Answer this, ns. And "remorse for post-game ns" is not a valid excuse

Look at it from my perspective and consider that I might be town, despite you thinking I'm scum.

I am trying to make sure my read on ffery is right and that she is really town, and I'm REALLY REALLY confident in that read. Wouldn't I want YOU to try to step it up today so I can have a better grasp of your motivations/play through your Day 3 (LYLO!) play? Or rather, if you're town and you see Ffery being universally read, why are you being so passive and just sitting around waiting for things to come to you and pressure to come to you?

That's what I'm trying to convey.

[Bert]

^both 2032 and 2033 are directed at notscience, btw.

[notscience]

Bert, why do you play mafia?

[notscience]

I will answer your questions once you answer mine.

[Bert]

hobby

I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here, but how does remorse factor into you disengaging in LYLO? Help me understand that?

[Bert]

You can view my Wiki where it says why I am here.

But really, it's because I get to experience being a different persona than I am in real life and I think that's really cool.

[Bert]

Either way I don't really understand why you're sitting back sorta, you're just sort of waiting to see what decisions other people make, that's just how it feels

[Bert]

EBWOP: seeing where the tide is turning, etc.

[fferyllt]

I've never read your wiki before. Your win rate is pretty wow.

[Bert]

It's a byproduct of probably luck and due to other town players doing a great job and me not hindering them too much.

And notscience your play reminds me of my own scumplay in Castle Day 3 where I sat all day on the fence and never placed real emphasis on my reads. My read on who was scum between Desp and Mantis wasn't made with much conviction, and eventually Mantis did catch on.

That's what bothers me right now. We both have kinda spammy styles, and you had a strong start in this game with regard to playing up your town meta, and then when LYLO comes all of a sudden it's like you're not making quite the impact you once were

sorry if that makes bad sense

[notscience]

So, for fun, no?

Cool, me too.

So, let's look how this game has been for me.

D1- Scumread lynched, flipped town.

D2- Scumreads pull a gambit, make me doubt myself, only to have both of them become confirmed town. Again, more scumreads wrong.

D3- Lylo. 2 people crossvote, with me literally in the fucking dark this game based on what's gone on thus far. I get called a jerk, and justly so.

So, how do you think my thought process towards this game is?

[notscience]

To add in with this- Look at the dead QT of Syry's open and maf QT of Cabd's mini. That'll help clear it up.

[Bert]

How are you in the dark? And yes, for fun

I did not call you a jerk

and what do you mean with your last question, I don't understand what you're trying to get at

HEY MY READS have been WRONG This game except for Kaze, and I even LET GO of my vote on Kaze/Wisdom D2. So I've been wrong on 3 out of my 4 "confused" reads

keep plugging along if you're town, seriously, we all are wrong sometimes and just play your game

[Bert]

To add in with this- Look at the dead QT of Syry's open and maf QT of Cabd's mini. That'll help clear it up.

Clear WHAT up? I can't just "read" that easily, tell me the gist of it and I will skim later when I get the chance to

I don't rememberm uch about you in the QT of Syry's open, but Cabd's mini you were scum...

[Bert]

OK reads list please notscience

in order

I answered questions of yours and I am still answering yours

mine is:

Wisdom scum


SCUM
Wisdom (confscum to me)
notscience
ffery
Sakura (conftown)
TOWN

and say why too please, if you want to start being helpful, now's the time

[notscience]

Allow me to sum it up for you.

Dead QT of Syry's game, I get called a shit player.

In the mafia QT, I reference the needing a win.

Bert, you aren't consistently off like me. You don't get consistently voted for bullshit reasons, you don't get the lylo fuckups I've had.

[Bert]

you will not sit on the fence anymore, either you take a side or stop using some BS excuses about why you don't wanna scumhunt today