Marketplace Mafia III - Game Over

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

You don't get to pull the "you only posted it just now, so the read is obviously shit!" card when A.) I don't always have the luxury of posting a development of my reads over the course of multiple posts, and B.) I mentioned at least three things over those catchup posts that I found to be scummy in you.

I think I do. You had absolutely no suspicion of us until 1237, when you quoted a few random posts and said "this is scummy".

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

Seanald's post on Klick looks to be one that's more onto something regarding the deadline usage. He's moved to be scummier.

Are you talking about Seanaldor Klick with that last "he" here?

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

Upside down - weren't you arguing yesterday that the neighborizer had to be town yesterday because of the $100 bid? Do you still think so? Because if you think that PV is definitely town due to bid amount, then why bring up the issue of the neighborizer again? My whole purpose for wanting to know who the neighborizer was was so that we could evaluate their choices and through that hope to evaluate him. But you thought definitely town so why would it matter to you?

I was and I do. I'm not bringing up the issue of neighborizer; I'm bringing up the issue of your insistence it be claimed and then nothing after it actually was.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

upside down's reasons for suspecting Tammy are absolutely terrible, but not in a scummy way, because I feel like they wouldn't go near her with a ten-foot pole as scum when it's so easy to go, "Boy, you're just so town, Tammy! *pat pat* *kills her at night*"

More or less terrible than hers for suspecting you d1?

Just to be clear: this isn't intended as an attack on Tammy (although it probably is); I'm actually interested in Mina's reply to this.

[morph the cat]

gods i hope you flip scum. It will be so justifying.

I am not even a tiny bit sorry that we'll disappoint.

Though I guess the feeling is mutual in a way. It would be nice to think that at the end of this all, I'll look back and think "well of course, they were scum." But, I don't think so. I think you're town, and yet the disconnect is so vast and pervasive that we're not likely to overcome it.

That's on you. If you are town and are actually trying to get town to work together, read syry's points about you. You should then easily see where our concerns about you come from. If there is an actual disconnect, feel free to try to overcome it. Even if you think you can't work with me, you both hydra with syry, so that really shouldn't be difficult.

I'm going to save myself and syr from watching yet another slap fight and respond to this instead by saying that this is on neither you nor her, that this entire bitch slap fight is stupid, and that it's best for both of you to just stop blowing up.

Ffery is talking to me all sorts of depressed about this, and I'm sure syr's getting an earful about all this too. From my POV, the whole "are you guys faking each other's posts" thing came out of total left field. Syr's questioning alongs those lines was kind of a silly loaded thing, damned either way; so I really didn't get the point of it. I don't fake ffery posts, and I don't think ffery can quite fake my flavor of batshit insane yet, either. Would you like me to go back and tell you who made which posts?

[Pyrotechnics]

I'm going to save myself and syr from watching yet another slap fight and respond to this instead by saying that this is on neither you nor her, that this entire bitch slap fight is stupid, and that it's best for both of you to just stop blowing up.

Ffery is talking to me all sorts of depressed about this, and I'm sure syr's getting an earful about all this too. From my POV, the whole "are you guys faking each other's posts" thing came out of total left field. Syr's questioning alongs those lines was kind of a silly loaded thing, damned either way; so I really didn't get the point of it. I don't fake ffery posts, and I don't think ffery can quite fake my flavor of batshit insane yet, either. Would you like me to go back and tell you who made which posts?

I haven't talked to syry since he was arguing with you guys the other night as he was pretty annoyed and wasn't online. I really don't care who is making what posts; if I care about a particular post, I'll ask. What I think Syry was worried about was that if you guys are scum again, and knowing that she tends to let you do most of the posting when you guys are scum - or at least that's what I'm gathering - that it would bring suspicion on you guys if she wasn't posting; therefore you might fake ffery posts to make it look like she's posting more than she actually is and make you guys look town. Also, I think that he expected ffery to interact with him a bit differently than she did. That's my guess. I'll ask him about it later and correct this if I'm wrong though.

[Pyrotechnics]

Upside down - weren't you arguing yesterday that the neighborizer had to be town yesterday because of the $100 bid? Do you still think so? Because if you think that PV is definitely town due to bid amount, then why bring up the issue of the neighborizer again? My whole purpose for wanting to know who the neighborizer was was so that we could evaluate their choices and through that hope to evaluate him. But you thought definitely town so why would it matter to you?

I was and I do. I'm not bringing up the issue of neighborizer; I'm bringing up the issue of your insistence it be claimed and then nothing after it actually was.

Yeah, here's the thing. When I get slammed for an idea, I'm not going to bulldoze it.

Day one was four real life days long. I agreed with Empire that the person who got neighborized could out it day two. Peregrine admitted he had the neighborizer not long at all before the day ended.

As far as why I didn't do anything about it that night. You do realize that it was less than 24 hours after the day started and when Peregrine hadn't yet posted when you guys started jumping on me about not doing anything about the neighborizer right?

Beyond that, I was just a little bit more interested in trying to sort out my reads than I was with worrying about the neighborizer when nobody agreed with me the day before anyway. And even beyond that, I started out this game pretty excited about it and wanted to put together a plan for town. I ended up pretty quickly getting annoyed with just about everyone that I was really looking forward to playing with. I get that part of that is my fault, but my caring levels about that particular thing is pretty damn low right now.

I do find it odd that Peregrine didn't out who he neighborized after seeing that people were bringing it up.

And can you start reading my posts? I said more than once yesterday that the reason why I thought neighborizer should claim was so that we could evaluate them and their neighbor choices (in fact, I said it in the very first post I made). Considering that you were arguing with me about it, you shouldn't be *forgetting* that that was my whole point. Like this is really really really clear.

[morph the cat]

I'm going to save myself and syr from watching yet another slap fight and respond to this instead by saying that this is on neither you nor her, that this entire bitch slap fight is stupid, and that it's best for both of you to just stop blowing up.

Ffery is talking to me all sorts of depressed about this, and I'm sure syr's getting an earful about all this too. From my POV, the whole "are you guys faking each other's posts" thing came out of total left field. Syr's questioning alongs those lines was kind of a silly loaded thing, damned either way; so I really didn't get the point of it. I don't fake ffery posts, and I don't think ffery can quite fake my flavor of batshit insane yet, either. Would you like me to go back and tell you who made which posts?

I haven't talked to syry since he was arguing with you guys the other night as he was pretty annoyed and wasn't online. I really don't care who is making what posts; if I care about a particular post, I'll ask. What I think Syry was worried about was that if you guys are scum again, and knowing that she tends to let you do most of the posting when you guys are scum - or at least that's what I'm gathering - that it would bring suspicion on you guys if she wasn't posting; therefore you might fake ffery posts to make it look like she's posting more than she actually is and make you guys look town. Also, I think that he expected ffery to interact with him a bit differently than she did. That's my guess. I'll ask him about it later and correct this if I'm wrong though.

Syr seemingly voted us because ffery wrote a post he thought was mine. That really didn't make much sense?

[morph the cat]

I got one question for you, fery.

Ok.

Sad.

I'm a little discouraged that we'll be able to work effectively together night 1.

Cabd and I are going to talk some of this over and then decide what our best course of action is.

It will probably involve sending funds to someone we think is both town and making sense. e.g. someone not Pyrotechnics.

Did you post this, or was Cabd pretending to be you?

That was me.

Alright then.

VOTE: morph the cat

This sequence here. What makes us scum for ffery saying it but not worth voting if I had said it?

[Pyrotechnics]

That's part of the crux of his argument against you guys, and I thought he got that part across pretty clear that night? He says that it doesn't make sense for that to come from ffery. He said that from that post and the ones afterwards, you guys are treating us like we're town, but then not actually trying to figure out why our reads are what they are. It's just not what he would expect from ffery!town.

Why wouldn't ffery understand that type of thing though? In hard boiled, I made a post and ffery asked me who made the post. When I told her I did and asked why, she said she'd be scum reading us if Mala had made the post. (Or it was GiF, I suppose) The idea being I guess that you expect certain things from one person that you wouldn't expect from another.

I'm not going to start this argument again though as I think if you read Syry's posts from that night, you'll see what problem he had with it and what he expected from ffery if town.

[Voidedmafia]

I did, and I'm not sure what you think I'm insisting upon there.

It was mainly the insistence of Quil being town and saying that disagreers were bad. tacked on was then using that same kind of font to say Nacho was scum without seemingly explaining hy.

[morph the cat]

I'm going to save myself and syr from watching yet another slap fight and respond to this instead by saying that this is on neither you nor her, that this entire bitch slap fight is stupid, and that it's best for both of you to just stop blowing up.

Ffery is talking to me all sorts of depressed about this, and I'm sure syr's getting an earful about all this too. From my POV, the whole "are you guys faking each other's posts" thing came out of total left field. Syr's questioning alongs those lines was kind of a silly loaded thing, damned either way; so I really didn't get the point of it. I don't fake ffery posts, and I don't think ffery can quite fake my flavor of batshit insane yet, either. Would you like me to go back and tell you who made which posts?

I haven't talked to syry since he was arguing with you guys the other night as he was pretty annoyed and wasn't online. I really don't care who is making what posts; if I care about a particular post, I'll ask. What I think Syry was worried about was that if you guys are scum again, and knowing that she tends to let you do most of the posting when you guys are scum - or at least that's what I'm gathering - that it would bring suspicion on you guys if she wasn't posting; therefore you might fake ffery posts to make it look like she's posting more than she actually is and make you guys look town. Also, I think that he expected ffery to interact with him a bit differently than she did. That's my guess. I'll ask him about it later and correct this if I'm wrong though.

I think Cabd went a little overboard with "depressed". I've been annoyed, and I've quite deliberately stepped back and put effort into other interactions. I've put down enough data about my thoughts in this game for you to at least get a sense of my approach, I think.

[Lord Mhork]

Ugh this spamming is pretty anti town. Is there any way you all can consolidate your thoughts into fewer, longer posts?

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

I did, and I'm not sure what you think I'm insisting upon there.

It was mainly the insistence of Quil being town and saying that disagreers were bad. tacked on was then using that same kind of font to say Nacho was scum without seemingly explaining hy.

Hmm no that's not what you quoted at all.

That's nice, dear. Now shush.

Plus, your insistence on this is getting scummy.

VOTE: Voided

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

Ugh this spamming is pretty anti town. Is there any way you all can consolidate your thoughts into fewer, longer posts?

fuck no

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

"fewer, longer posts" is the opposite of useful.

[Lord Mhork]

I don't mean walls, but the fact that there have been a couple of pages -

pages

- that are just a constant dribble of your thoughts are equally useless.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

Mhork, I have caught scum. You should be worshiping at my feet, not calling my posts dribble.

[Lord Mhork]

Was it in that dribble? 'Cause if it was, I prolly missed it >.>

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

Are you Voided's buddy? You can tell me if you are; I can keep a secret.

[Lord Mhork]

Yeah you caught me >.>
But shhhhhh. It's a sekrit.

[Lord Mhork]

Nero is also on our team though. Can we lynch him first?

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

Please actually comment on Voided now.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

What's Nero done? Had an argument with you? So's Lost Butterfly; doesn't mean anything.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

Like, Voided is actually caught caught now. I don't see why you're avoiding this.