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Post Post #1525 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:21 pm

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In post 1514, morph the cat wrote:well actually that's not true. Our vote is down on Voided. But we were thinking about moving it this afternoon when I first drafted said godawful wall.

LB who do you think we should be lynching today?
Faraday is leaning toward Nero. I'll let him explain why in his own words. I'm having second thoughts even though Nero's advertisement claims were terrible, because I actually thought his rage in this post (particularly the last line) and this post looked like genuine town paranoia. (Someone in this game said Nero rages a lot as town, IIRC.)

I'm also starting to feel worse about Voidedmafia today, since I feel like some of the points in his walls have been insincere and opportunistic. It's hard to explain; in particular, his habit of quoting posts and going, "Ohhhh, you're looking SCUMMIER! This looks even scummier than that" pings my gut. Also, this post reads like he's fishing for the other team:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=5393829#p5393829 wrote:I don't think PV-scum'd lose much by fishing for a partner N1, so long as it wasn't a blind toss. I would hope that if he is on a team they used other means to find scum last night. (and one in particular)
Why did you say "I would
hope
," and "one in particular", Voided? This sounds more like you're talking from the PoV of scum than town, TBH.

Faraday has been distracted by some RL stuff, so we haven't spent as much time on this game as we'd have liked today. A big post on the N0 advertisements coming tomorrow, but off the top of my head, you in particular, ProHawk to a lesser degree, and maybe Banakai and upside down (depending on the math) come out looking better for it. Now I think it would have been useful to ask for
amounts
people advertised, actually, but I don't want to stall this out any more.
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Post Post #1526 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:22 pm

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Unless I'm misunderstanding your plan Morph I don't see how we can hold people accountable?
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Post Post #1527 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:23 pm

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In post 1526, Lost Butterfly wrote:Unless I'm misunderstanding your plan Morph I don't see how we can hold people accountable?
I don't think we have to. So long as all the town players follow along it still works out even if scum doesn't follow along. I think.
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Post Post #1528 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:24 pm

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We can't roll dice in thread though, which I assumed was necessary? Or is it just "roll a dice, then that town player knows what to do for the night?"
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Post Post #1529 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:25 pm

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@Lost Butterfly:
If Nero rages a lot as town, why is he only semi raging here and only when people call him out for something?
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Post Post #1530 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:28 pm

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Post Post #1531 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:29 pm

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i don't think nero's rage in this game looks genuine. like maybe the rage at me because he doesn't get he's wrong, but that's alignment-null rage based on thinking he's right in the argument. the stuff directed at mhork looks pretty meh, though.
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Post Post #1532 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:30 pm

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In post 1528, Lost Butterfly wrote:We can't roll dice in thread though, which I assumed was necessary? Or is it just "roll a dice, then that town player knows what to do for the night?"
Roll your dice once night hits. Keep the results secret if you have a neighborhood/etc and then claim your actions the next day. Rinse and repeat as needed with new dice rolls each night. Each player has their own unique roll. Scum can fakeclaim their actions, but they'll have to claim something legit sounding because we can still do the money math given the public 800% number.
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Post Post #1533 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:36 pm

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In post 1532, morph the cat wrote:
In post 1528, Lost Butterfly wrote:We can't roll dice in thread though, which I assumed was necessary? Or is it just "roll a dice, then that town player knows what to do for the night?"
Roll your dice once night hits. Keep the results secret if you have a neighborhood/etc and then claim your actions the next day. Rinse and repeat as needed with new dice rolls each night. Each player has their own unique roll. Scum can fakeclaim their actions, but they'll have to claim something legit sounding because we can still do the money math given the public
80%
number.
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Post Post #1534 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:51 pm

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Morph, do you not think that ensuring some form of accountability for transfers should be in place? Unkess the numbers are really contradictory, can't scum just send, like $30-60 (pre-80%) and claim that's all they had? Maybe I'm thinking to much about MII where a scum was lynched through the totals not matching, but still.

Mina, that's kinda how I sort my reads for the rest of you to see as well as in my head. Also i was trying to be cagey about what I thought happened last night if the kill had been used by scum. Granted, using a kill to find the other scum ensures they find someone to neighborize (if pere's team got both), but I figured an nk gone is one less nk to worry about. This thoery sadly relies more on the opposite scum disbelieving for a good gain, though.
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Post Post #1535 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:58 pm

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In post 1534, Voidedmafia wrote:Morph, do you not think that ensuring some form of accountability for transfers should be in place? Unkess the numbers are really contradictory, can't scum just send, like $30-60 (pre-80%) and claim that's all they had? Maybe I'm thinking to much about MII where a scum was lynched through the totals not matching, but still.

Mina, that's kinda how I sort my reads for the rest of you to see as well as in my head. Also i was trying to be cagey about what I thought happened last night if the kill had been used by scum. Granted, using a kill to find the other scum ensures they find someone to neighborize
(if pere's team got both)
, but I figured an nk gone is one less nk to worry about. This thoery sadly relies more on the opposite scum disbelieving for a good gain, though.
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Post Post #1536 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:02 pm

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Then why did you use the words "I would
hope
," Voided? I'm not sure I understand what you mean--this came after there already WAS no kill N1. What was your endgame by trying to conceal this from the scum (who I'd assume would know their kill had failed)?
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Post Post #1537 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:03 pm

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Something I literally started writing hours ago, but forgot to post:
In post 1474, BBmolla wrote:
In post 1306, Garuda wrote:
In post 812, BBmolla wrote:You seemed eccentric, which would imply nervousness.
Eccentric how?
...Like, more hyped up than normal? I donno. Not chill Mina town.
Did you actually use the word "chill" and "Mina" in the same sentence? :lol:

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In post 888, BBmolla wrote:Jesus christ are you kidding me?

Fuck that

VOTE: Voided
I don't think you ever explained, but what are you shocked about here that triggered your over-the-top reaction?
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Post Post #1538 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:15 pm

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morph, on the surface, your plan looks good, but I have to wake up in four hours, so I'm not going to put serious thought into it. I'll get back to you on it tomorrow when we finalize what our townreads/preferred abilities are.

Hey, Tammy, what's your read on us? It feels like your interactions with us today have been really toned down compared to yesterday (and yet you've implied you still think we're scum). baldeagle, too. Do you still have a scumread on us?
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Post Post #1539 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:56 pm

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In post 881, Magua wrote:Night-kill x 1 $151
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Post Post #1540 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:58 pm

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I can elaborate if you want.
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Post Post #1541 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:01 pm

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Nah
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Post Post #1542 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:33 pm

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It's like saving up for candy then going to the store and they're sold out

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Post Post #1543 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:02 pm

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In post 1521, Lost Butterfly wrote:Hey, BBmolla when you read this can you pinkie promise that you're town.
I pinkie promise

I know my content amount is shitty but it's more from the daunting task of catching up then anything

I'll really make an effort to catch up so that you can have more on me than my word
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Post Post #1544 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:25 pm

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Seanald is a mystery to me at the moment. I keep going both ways, I think his day 1 stuff seemed scummy in the "oh jee willickers guys so many posts" sort of way, I thought the Klick vote was town, but came from a scum thought process, but it could have been his scum process from Marketplace II moving over if that makes sense.

Pie can be town I guess

LB is assumed town for now

Garuda seems town

Pyro seemed town in the early game

Dont want to read all of morph's crap

Bana probs town

Hara is super eh

Dont wanna read upside's crap

zMuff was town iirc?

Prohawk was scummy but posted stuff I liked that I need to recheck

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Post Post #1545 (ISO) » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:42 am

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In post 1412, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1300, Banakai wrote:Okay my Night 0 advertisements are

Gravedigger, 1$
Cop, 2$
Doctor, 3$
Commuter, 2$
and
Neighborizer, 1$

Advertised a bunch of random stuff that sounded useful
Case in point.
Which case is this the point of?
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Post Post #1546 (ISO) » Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:02 am

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In post 1421, Voidedmafia wrote:
In post 1363, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:Hmm no that's not what you quoted at all.
The font was included. Though, if you want me to be really specific now that I think on it, it was using the font along with the insistence on what you thought about Hermy.
Do you even understand what the fuck you're saying?

Let's run through this fucking thing again, and you can tell me how what you're saying makes any damn sense at all.
1166: Tammy tells me she doesn't like me putting stuff in brackets
1172, 1174 and 1181 (this is the one you quoted to begin with): I apologise for making this mistake and write the same thing in larger letters
1237: Apparently my "insistence on this is getting scummy".
1276: I ask for an explanation of 1237, because I didn't think I was insisting upon anything there.
1330: You tell me to go read the post again, because that will explain everything
1349: (surprisingly, it didn't explain anything)
1360: It was me insisting upon Quilford being town that you had an issue with, apparently?
1363: (so why did you quote the different thing?)
1421 (quoted above): No wait, that thing you told me about having reading comprehension should actually be applied to yourself.

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Post Post #1547 (ISO) » Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:06 am

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In post 1546, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:
In post 1421, Voidedmafia wrote:
In post 1363, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:Hmm no that's not what you quoted at all.
The font was included. Though, if you want me to be really specific now that I think on it, it was using the font along with the insistence on what you thought about Hermy.
Do you even understand what the fuck you're saying?

Let's run through this fucking thing again, and you can tell me how what you're saying makes any damn sense at all.
1166: Tammy tells me she doesn't like me putting stuff in brackets
1172, 1174 and 1181 (this is the one you quoted to begin with): I apologise for making this mistake and write the same thing in larger letters
1237: Apparently my "insistence on this is getting scummy".
1276: I ask for an explanation of 1237, because I didn't think I was insisting upon anything there.
1330: You tell me to go read the post again, because that will explain everything
1349: (surprisingly, it didn't explain anything)
1360: It was me insisting upon Quilford being town that you had an issue with, apparently?
1363: (so why did you quote the different thing?)
1421 (quoted above): No wait, that thing you told me about having reading comprehension should actually be applied to yourself.

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Even if that whole misdirection thing between 1330 and 1363 hadn't happened, I'd still find this really shitty. For one thing, I wasn't "insisting on what I thought of Hermy" in that post. I was calling Tammy out for a stupid point. If it were some sort of "insistence on using the font", why did you quote the first time I did it when you called me out?
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Post Post #1548 (ISO) » Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:10 am

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In post 1434, pieguyn wrote:upside down has the best username ever
tyvm I'm very proud of it
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Post Post #1549 (ISO) » Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:12 am

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In post 1434, pieguyn wrote:up to 319, I haven't seen uwop yell at anyone else for "fluff". it seems suspicious since it's not consistent
I don't remember calling anyone out for fluff all game? That's be really hypocritical of me. I'm not hypocritical.
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