A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?

[Tierce]

When and why did you change your mind on us? Why does the gif solidify it?

He's joking.

[Goat on a Raft]

I... hate... Ferengi.

[Shadoweh]

Tammy--why would you pick a Townread to Loverize? O.o Wouldn't a not-really-lynchable scumread make a hell of a lot more sense?

Tammy why didn't you try to link yourself to scum and get to live forever?

The detective work on Not-CES aside, it's not like he could have hidden forever since Tammy knew who he was all along. This wagon of sudden outrage gets as big an eyeroll from me as the wagon on Spyrex with warcries of HAMMERER!

[Tierce]

I... hate... Ferengi.

Wrong universe. But you could call him Vargo Hoat and it'd amount to the same!

[Tierce]

The detective work on Not-CES aside, it's not like he could have hidden forever since Tammy knew who he was all along. This wagon of sudden outrage gets as big an eyeroll from me as the wagon on Spyrex with warcries of HAMMERER!

We're talking about the same Tammy who was content with letting him coast for over a week, yes?

Mighty dangerous to his health!

[Tierce]

Let's make this clear: my point isn't that Syryana pretended to be someone else. My point is that Syryana pretended to be someone else to hide his complete lack of content, and now says he's been "contributing" through an all but blank vote on AGar. He's put more effort into pretending to be CES (even the vote format was non-Syryana type) than into the game itself.

[Shadoweh]

Well I'm imagining their conversation.
Syry: You know what would be SUPER FUNNY if I pretended to be replaced by CES
Tammy: LOL yes this would be excellent and gain us the five stars
Syry: Don't tell anyone though okay I can't wait to see the egg on their faces BOY HOWDY!
Tammy: kk lols I will totes back you up when you are done with the pretends!

The Agar wagon wasn't doing too badly really. I think you're biased because you figured out he was lying and lynching liars is natural progression. He could have coasted on sweet marriage leftovers for at least another day especially having seen Spyrex do a super attention grabbing hammer. I just don't see this glaringly obvious need to hide himself that you do. If I were trying to hide myself I probably wouldn't do something guarenteed to piss people off.

[Shadoweh]

PS single bachelors I guarentee you I'm not a life-stealing vampire like Tammy is winky winky so don't be shy to line up

[quadz08]

So alchemist has gone from "hey let's drop a pressure vote" to "Christ, clearly here and posting, and still

not actually doing anything

."

Let's killitdead please

[ooba]

If I cannot get a SpyreX lynch, Syryana IS a lynch I'm willing to jump on. Let me quickly take a look at the previous VCs.

[Benmage]

So Alchemists, is following along... so has been actively lurking?

Cool.

Lynch it!

(thisiswhereistoppostingtillalchemistisdead...thisisareallystupidmechanicFaraday)

[ooba]

{SpyreX} is scum. Based on the jumps to the Alchemist wagon and PoE...

If alchemist is town, 2 of {Goat, Messiah, Quadz} are scum

{SpyreX, (Goat,Messiah,Quadz)~2}

If alchemist is scum, {Pride&Joy, Shadow} are scum

{SpyreX, alchemist, Pride&Joy, Shadow}

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I wanted to look at who the other suspects pushed. I complied a significant VCA list but staring at it really did not help me - but it might be helpful for others - so here:

Spoiler:

DAY 1, VC 14

PrideandJoy (1) - Amrun
Cephrir (1) - Goat on a Raft
kanyeknowsbest (3) - Andrius, ooba, PeaceBringer
elleheathen (5) - PrideandJoy, Cephrir, Garruk Relentless, kanyeknowsbest, Thor665
quadz08 (4) - Shadoweh,StupendousMan, Natilius, Benmage
Amrun (2) - Tierce, macmollie
ooba (1) - Alfred Borden
StupendousMan (1)- Tammy
Thor665 (1) - Zdenek

Not voting (5)- Messiah Complex, SafetyDance, Syryana, quadz08, elleheathen

DAY 1, VC 38

PrideandJoy (1) - Amrun
ooba (11) - Alfred Borden, quadz08, PrideandJoy, AGar, Shadoweh, Tierce, Tammy, StupendousMan, Goat on a Raft, Syryana, Garruk Relentless
StupendousMan (1)- Nautilius
Thor665 (5) - elleheathen, kanyeknowsbest, macmollie, Benmage, Cephrir
Goat on a Raft (1) - displaced
Zdenek (1) - Messiah Complex
Garruk Relentless (2) - SafetyDance, ooba
Amrun (2) - Thor665, Zdenek

Not voting (0)- NO ONE

DAY 1, VC 46

PrideandJoy (1) - Amrun
ooba (4) - PrideandJoy, AGar, StupendousMan, Goat on a Raft
Thor665 (5) - elleheathen, kanyeknowsbest, Benmage, SafetyDance, Zdenek
Amrun (1) - Thor665
SafetyDance (12) - Alfred Borden, Syryana, Garruk Relentless, Cephrir, Tammy, Shadoweh, displaced, Tierce, Nautilius, ooba, Messiah Complex, quadz08

Not voting (1)- macmollie

DAY 2, VC 14

Amrun (12) - Zdenek, Alfred Borden, Nautilius, Shadoweh, Tammy, SafetyDance, Benmage, macmollie, PrideandJoy, elleheathen, AGar, SpyreX
Nautilius (3) - StupendousMan, Amrun, quadz08
Messiah Complex (2) - Cephrir, ooba
elleheathen (1) - Goat on a Raft
AGar (1) - The Alchemist
SpyreX (1) - Messiah Complex

Not voting (3): Garuk Relentless, Tierce, kanyeknowsbest

DAY 3, VC 15

SpyreX (6) - Tammy, ooba, Zdenek, elleheathen, Messiah Complex, Nautilius
AGar (5) - Goat on a Raft, Benmage, Garruk Relentless, The Alchemist, Alfred Borden
Nautilius (1) - quadz08
Zdenek (5) - kanyeknowsbest, StupendousMan, Shadoweh, SpyreX, AGar
quadz08 (1) - Tierce
elleheathen (1) - Goat on a Raft
Benmage (1) - PrideandJoy

Not voting (2):Cephrir, SafetyDance

DAY 3, VC 17

SpyreX (6) - Tammy, ooba, Zdenek, elleheathen, Messiah Complex, Nautilius
AGar (3) - Goat on a Raft, The Alchemist, Alfred Borden
Zdenek (5) - kanyeknowsbest, StupendousMan, Shadoweh, SpyreX, AGar
elleheathen (1) - Goat on a Raft
Benmage (1) - PrideandJoy
The Alchemist (4) - Tierce, quadz08, Benmage, Garruk Relentless

Not voting (2):Cephrir, SafetyDance

Quick ISOs to see who pushed which suspects were better

Sryana\TheAlchemist: Cephrir, SafetyDance, me, Agar

SpyreX: Kanye, StupendosMan, Agar
- displaced voted goat but it was a weak vote
- displaced voted SafetyDance but didn't post after that so I can't make it if it was serious or not

Goat: StupendosMan, elle, Agar, SpyreX
- Weak pushes on SafetyDance, ooba, Thor

Messiah: StupendosMan, Zednek, Garruk, SpyreX

Pride&Joy: elle, ooba, Amrun, Messiah, Elle, ooba

Quadz: ooba, SafteyDance, ooba, SypreX, Naut

Shadoweh: Garruk, Quadz, Cephrir, ooba, ooba, Zednek

Looking at this and based on the quick ISO - I like the second list better for now

{SpyreX, alchemist, Pride&Joy, Shadow}

. Not that there can't be overlap i.e I can see quadz being a fifth in this list. But I'm not that sure between lists and still think SpyreX is the best lynch for today. Please make it happen!

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@Alfred

- Agar is not scum

@kanye, StupendosMan

- Zednek is not scum
Please move your votes.

[Tammy]

The detective work on Not-CES aside, it's not like he could have hidden forever since Tammy knew who he was all along. This wagon of sudden outrage gets as big an eyeroll from me as the wagon on Spyrex with warcries of HAMMERER!

We're talking about the same Tammy who was content with letting him coast for over a week, yes?

Mighty dangerous to his health!

Except no. Mollie asked me about it a couple days ago and I said I was trying to work out something in my head. And when it became an issue I said I would clear it up, which I did. I just gave him a chance to do it himself.

Shadoweh - no we didn't talk about it. He didn't even tell me he was definitely doing it. I figured he was when he asked if it was one shot or if I could do it again because he thought I could target a scum read so I stayed alive. I didn't know he was gone until faraday closed our qt.

I didn't target scum because I decided I didn't want to. I spammed faraday about all the different uses of my role, but decided I'd rather use it like a hydra if I could find a town read. I also had to use it by day two, and it had to be a human male or it failed. Syry and I work well together and I thought he wouldn't mind his fate being tied to mine. And it's my role. I almost didn't even use it though because when shadowed hinted a marriage role too I worried that she would know that I was now a lover and could get two kills with mine. But then I decide to stop out guessing the mod on that cuz it was silly.

But, if syry is scum which unless I'm just totally gullible he isn't, he's third party. He could have stayed attached to me and tried to manipulate me in the qt, and wouldn't have worried about dying when I did or he could have waited until later.

I'd quote what I'm referring to but I'm on my phone.

Lurking and active lurking isn't a scum tell for syry though and I still think the way be interacted with me and claimed in the neighborhood was more likely town. I'm still trying to work out in my head something though .

[Benmage]

Who opted for the divorce, and did both have to confirm? ( what of the children?)

[Benmage]

Haiiiiii EvERybuddy

I'm Faraday

I'm going to create roles that serve no purpose but act as massive distractions for the Town, because I'm FaRAday and I root for scum!

[Benmage]

**Tammy

I'd also like to here the reasoning behind not claiming and allowing this charade to continue. What were you trying to protect?

[Alfred Borden]

So it turns out I have a stomach virus. Ugh.

Nacho, I don't have time to talk in depth about CDB or Natirasha, but I encourage you to look at their games. Really don't think CDB especially would have the balls to have posted some of the stuff.

Unvote, vote: The Alchemist

This being Syryana = this needs to die.

[kanyeknowsbest]

@kanye, StupendosMan

- Zednek is not scum
Please move your votes.

iom not seeing how hes town can yiou say anything 2 convince me.

[elleheathen]

Obvious prod dodge is obvious.
(Sorry - will catch up after the flu's done kicking my ass.)

[Eddard Stark]

Day 3, Vc 18

SpyreX (5) -

Tammy, ooba, Zdenek, elleheathen, Nautilius

AGar (1) -

The Alchemist

Zdenek (5) -

kanyeknowsbest, StupendousMan, Shadoweh, SpyreX, AGar

elleheathen (1) -

Goat on a Raft

Benmage (1) -

PrideandJoy

The Alchemist (7) -

Tierce, quadz08, Benmage, Garruk Relentless, Messiah Complex, Goat on a Raft, Alfred Borden

Not voting (2)

:Cephrir, SafetyDance

With 21 alive it takes 11 votes to lynch

• Deadline Date: 25th of October at 16:05 EDT
  
• Deadline Countdown: (expired on 2013-10-25 04:30:01)
  
• I am V/la! Expect me once a Day to do VC's and prods and that type of stuff though.

Still looking for a StupendousMan replacement.

[Nautilius]

Vote: The Alchemist

[Nautilius]

I don't. Frankly, I know that you know that I am someone you could get lynched if you wanted, so I just find it irritating that you are voting Spyrex, who is a decent lynch, but pushing this case on me at the same time.

Voting/Pushing SpyreX while also expressing that I think you're scummy since I was going through the playerlist earlier.

Your problem is that it's assuming The Alchemist is

not

Syryana. I like your logic, but one of the base arguments for it is wrong.

Well if he's Syr he's still been alignment shifted or something probably, I guess. I agree he's probscum then. In any case, we should clear this mystery as soon as possible.

I hate this post.

I liked the conviction of his "Fuck you I would've hammered regardless" today, even if the hammer itself was bleh.

This is literally the only reasoning you give for SpyreX actually being town and it sucks.

it's not Syryana

Do I get to point and laugh at you in the postgame?

You can point and laugh at me now, if you'd like

His lurking is annoying, but I still believe that he's town from his the posting in the neighborhood.

You don't think that there's a chance of his alignment changing?

When and why did you change your mind on us? Why does the gif solidify it?

He's joking.

I changed my mind on them a little while ago, and I explained why and everything. I don't think that they're obvious town anymore so you should probably run me back through your read of them, Tierce.

[Tammy]

Who opted for the divorce, and did both have to confirm? ( what of the children?)

As if I'd forget to drink my moon tea after someone leaves me. Please I'm not *that* dumb.

[Tammy]

**Tammy

I'd also like to here the reasoning behind not claiming and allowing this charade to continue. What were you trying to protect?

It wasn't my role to out and I had a town read on him. When it became a distraction and it was obvious he wasn't going to do anything, I made it clear that I would.

[kanyeknowsbest]

**Tammy

I'd also like to here the reasoning behind not claiming and allowing this charade to continue. What were you trying to protect?

It wasn't my role to out and I had a town read on him. When it became a distraction and it was obvious he wasn't going to do anything, I made it clear that I would.

what were your thoughts about him completely disappearing activitywise from the game?