Marketplace Mafia III - Game Over

[Harakiri]

LB, you missed all of our advertisement claims.

We advertised Neighborizer $10 during confirmations and Market Analyst $10/Self-Watch $10 N1.

[Lord Mhork]

Oh wow that's a much better plan than I thought

[Voidedmafia]

You're voting him because he's scum. If your not, why are you voting him?

You're calling me scum (stating my "team" could have gotten both NK and neighborizer), but not voting me.

Your conjecturing, but if you conjecture we are both scum, then you either think we are on the same team or opposing teams.

If you have enough information to reach the conclusion that we are both scum, then you should also have reached a conclusion that we are on the same or opposing teams.

So either you don't believe what you are saying, or your making shit up. Which is it?

I'm going to say this one more time, and then either you're going to not believe me and keep your vote. Or you're going to believe me, shut up about this, and then either unvote me or find some other damn reason to vote me. This goes for morph, too.

I. Made. Conjecture. That's. It. Nothing more, nothing less. I didn't call you scum. Even if I did, I sure as hell don't know if you and Nero are same or opposite scum because I just don't know and I don't like to do teams without scumflips. I DID, however, post a theory t hat

involved

positing that you were scum, but did not

call

you scum. Reread that post morph quoted. Note that the entire thing is based on the assumption that you're scum, and then that you and your team won neighborizer and night kill, and THEN wasted that nk for neighbor usage. In retrospect that's not even good conjecture as even seanald wouldn't use it that stupidly if he was scum and was given usage of the nk. Not one person in this game would do that

Now, I think Nero is scum. I'm voting him. I don't know if you're scum, and only have some stupid bit of conjecture that really only works as town's biggest N1 wet dream to think that you're scum. So I'm not voting you. Are we fucking clear, or do I need to yell at you to get that through your thick skull?

[Lost Butterfly]

I guess there's one way to answer that: upside down and ProHawk, how much did you advertise Cop and Gravedigger for?

$15 for Gravedigger
$30 for Doc

Morph, I really need that Meta-Dive from you soon.

You advertised Doctor when Doctor was already up for auction?

Also, that's annoying. None of Banakai's actions are 100% confirmed now (since he claimed Commuter after it had already shown up). Agree with Garuda that the spread of abilities looks townish, though.

Also also, sorry, Harakiri (not that another neighbourizer advertisement claim changes things at this point). I can't do the same thing with the N1 advertisements until we see what abilities show up on N2.

[Voidedmafia]

Both.

I don't understand what you're trying to say about my paranoia.

Also, yes I was scum that game. Lightscum in particular.

Also, pere, 1624 helps me understand the townread on you. Slightly mitigated by my personal thoughts about your single-issue pushes, but the read's there.

[zMuffinMan]

why would Nero offer to advertise anything as scum?

... you honestly can't think of reasons he'd do it as scum? like i suppose he could have kept quiet, but then that also runs the risk of being called out for not offering to advertise something, so...

I find it more difficult to parade around and call myself obvtown when I'm clearly not

that's more a your playstyle vs others' playstyle thing, then? i don't usually have a problem with calling myself obvtown when i'm clearly not.

[Voidedmafia]

Actually I hate myself and am going to go cry never mind.

Faraday, what the fuck?

[ProHawk]

You advertised Doctor when Doctor was already up for auction?

I volunteered to advertise it?

[Voidedmafia]

Still waiting for other players to comment on the money transfer plan. Really would like to implament it.

I'm fine with it.

[Voidedmafia]

The hydras. >.>
Plus maybe muffinman

What were we arguing about? The dribbling?

...What is this I don't even...

[Voidedmafia]

Also, I can agree with your six, morph. I'd switch banakai with pie, but despite how I feel about bana I'm not certain about how up to date he is and I'd rather he post more before I request money go his way.

[morph the cat]

Morph's Six Top Townreads

Peregrine
Pie
Pyro
Prohawk
Harakiri
Lost Butterfly

Morph's Abilities to Advertise

Cop
Neighborizer
Doctor
Watcher
Wage Freeze

baldeagle's Six Top Town Reads

Pyro
Pene
morph
pieguyn
ProHawk
LB

baldeagle's Abilities to Advertise

Neighborizer
Cop
Doctor
Wage Freeze
Auction Detective

Voided's Six Top Townreads

Peregrine
maybe banakai maybe pie 1685
Pyro
Prohawk
Harakiri
Lost Butterfly

[Harakiri]

Peregrine
Butterfly
ProHawk/Morph(I'm townreading Morph, Sakura's scumreading Morph, flip names for ProHawk)
Muffin
pie I guess
Eagle?

Likely not advertising tonight--I'm gonna be selfish and make some dosh.

[Lost Butterfly]

You advertised Doctor when Doctor was already up for auction?

I volunteered to advertise it?

Yes, but advertising is only useful to make sure abilities are auctioned in the first place?

Given my analysis, I would really like morph and upside down to be in the list of six now. Even over Pyrotechnics (having some paranoia of them, actually, but we still think they should be included). Harakiri is a good choice, as is Mhork. Faraday feels confident PeregrineV is town based on meta. pieguyn is a very mediocre choice; to be honest, I think you're too easily impressed, morph.

So...

morph
upside down
Pyrotechnics
Harakiri
Lord Mhork
PeregrineV

[morph the cat]

Morph's Six Top Townreads

Peregrine
Pie
Pyro
Prohawk
Harakiri
Lost Butterfly

Morph's Abilities to Advertise

Cop
Neighborizer
Doctor
Watcher
Wage Freeze

baldeagle's Six Top Town Reads

Pyro
Pene
morph
pieguyn
ProHawk
LB

baldeagle's Abilities to Advertise

Neighborizer
Cop
Doctor
Wage Freeze
Auction Detective

Voided's Six Top Townreads

Peregrine
maybe banakai maybe pie 1685
Pyro
Prohawk
Harakiri
Lost Butterfly

Lost Butterfly's Top Six Townreads

morph
upside down
Pyrotechnics
Harakiri
Lord Mhork
PeregrineV

Harakiri's Top Six Townreads:

Peregrine
Butterfly
ProHawk OR Morph
Muffin
Pie
Eagle

[morph the cat]

You advertised Doctor when Doctor was already up for auction?

I volunteered to advertise it?

Yes, but advertising is only useful to make sure abilities are auctioned in the first place?

Given my analysis, I would really like morph and upside down to be in the list of six now. Even over Pyrotechnics (having some paranoia of them, actually, but we still think they should be included). Harakiri is a good choice, as is Mhork. Faraday feels confident PeregrineV is town based on meta. pieguyn is a very mediocre choice; to be honest, I think you're too easily impressed, morph.

So...

morph
upside down
Pyrotechnics
Harakiri
Lord Mhork
PeregrineV

We're still evaluating and data is still hitting the thread. I won't be surprised if our list changes a little before the day ends. I have Mhork as town. He's been engaged in the thread every calendar day and I don't think he'd flake or goof it up. pieguyn's commitment to catching up and following up has stood out, too.

[zMuffinMan]

pyro, harakiri
mhork, zdenek, upsidedown, pieguyn

this is still basically the same

[morph the cat]

Morph's Six Top Townreads

Peregrine
Pie
Pyro
Prohawk
Harakiri
Lost Butterfly

Morph's Abilities to Advertise

Cop
Neighborizer
Doctor
Watcher
Wage Freeze

baldeagle's Six Top Town Reads

Pyro
Pene
morph
pieguyn
ProHawk
LB

baldeagle's Abilities to Advertise

Neighborizer
Cop
Doctor
Wage Freeze
Auction Detective

Voided's Six Top Townreads

Peregrine
maybe banakai maybe pie 1685
Pyro
Prohawk
Harakiri
Lost Butterfly

Lost Butterfly's Top Six Townreads

morph
upside down
Pyrotechnics
Harakiri
Lord Mhork
PeregrineV

Harakiri's Top Six Townreads:

Peregrine
Butterfly
ProHawk OR Morph
Muffin
Pie
Eagle

Muffin's Top Six Townreads:

pyro
harakiri
mhork
zdenek
upsidedown
pieguyn

[pieguyn]

thanks >w<

we can't use provable randomness so I guess we roll a D6 privately?

IMO that plan might have too much money being spent on advertising. cause like half the people are going to be spending all their money each night on advertising. it might be better to have people save some of it

[morph the cat]

Plan has been modified, will post the final working plan later tonight in TL;DR and wallpost formats.

[morph the cat]

This is the proposed change.

So basically, you take the 6 most accepted globally townreads. Assign them each a number 1 to 6. Each player in the null/scum piles rolls their own D6 overnight. Those that roll an even number on their first roll transfer money. Those that roll an odd number use their money to advertise things that are assigned to town to advertise, as an even spread. Those that rolled to transfer money then roll a second D6, and the number they roll is who they transfer money to.

My major concern with your plan is that there's too much money going towards advertising. We can reasonably spend like $20 on what we want to appear the next day and it will appear, and even IF the scum decide to spend major money getting what they want to appear the next night, this accomplishes holding off our powers one more night, which doesn't seem to be that big of a deal. Rolling the d6 to determine who they send money to in the 6 man town block seems to be the best plan to me while designating one or two or maybe even three other scummy people to advertising things.

That sounds fairly easy to tweak.

Would it make sense to assign advertising duties and then have everyone, including the advertisers randomly funnel money to the consensus 6 trusted townies?

[Voidedmafia]

Isn't that what eveeyone did last game, sans allocating funds to advertise?

[morph the cat]

Isn't that what eveeyone did last game, sans allocating funds to advertise?

The private randomization of who each player sends funds to is different, and is meant to at partially offset wire fraud.

[Pyrotechnics]

I'm not even going to pretend I can get caught up here tonight. So, tomorrow.

[Lord Mhork]

Tomorrow at some point I'll list town reads and all that stuff.