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Post Post #1700 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:55 am

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Vote Count 2.15


With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Klick (5): Garuda, Seanald, pieguyn, Harakiri, Klick
VoidedMafia (5): morph the cat, BBmolla, uʍop ǝpısdn, PeregrineV, 1baldeagle1
Nero Cain (3): Lord Mhork, zMuffinMan, VoidedMafia
Lord Mhork (2): Nero Cain, Zdenek
morph the cat (1): Pyrotechnics
uʍop ǝpısdn (1): ProHawk
Lost Butterfly (1): Lost Butterfly

Not Voting (2): Banakai, DoctorPepper

Deadline for Day 2 is Friday, November 1st, at 2:00pm EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:
(expired on 2013-11-01 13:00:00)


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Post Post #1701 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:51 am

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Unvote.


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Post Post #1702 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:33 am

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In post 1701, PeregrineV wrote:
Unvote.


Will get my top reads up probably today.
I don't see a statement of you believing me or not.

Likewise from Morph, too.
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Post Post #1703 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:42 am

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Post Post #1704 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:17 am

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In post 1702, Voidedmafia wrote:
In post 1701, PeregrineV wrote:
Unvote.


Will get my top reads up probably today.
I don't see a statement of you believing me or not.

Likewise from Morph, too.
1. You're less scummy than Klick, while having the same number of votes. But, I do like the makeup of your voters more than Klick's voters.

2. I see what you were saying in 1677 and will take it at face value for now.
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Post Post #1705 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:36 am

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@morph: uwop, Zdenek, baldeagle, LB, Pyro, morph

abilities: cop, watcher, tracker, wage freeze, federal reserve chairman. wanna get moar moneyz <3

@Voided: you ignoring my question is noted
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Post Post #1706 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:57 am

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In post 1702, Voidedmafia wrote:
In post 1701, PeregrineV wrote:
Unvote.


Will get my top reads up probably today.
I don't see a statement of you believing me or not.

Likewise from Morph, too.
Do we believe you about that post being (part of?) a scenario exploration? I can read it that way, so I'm no longer pushing it as a slip.

We've had our vote on you since the start of Day 2. That post obviously wasn't a driver in our decision.

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It's bothering me atm that Nacho-garuda isn't pushing for a different lynch at the moment, he's arguing against the two top lynch contenders' wagons. This applies to LB also, though not to the same extent.

But, I saw similarities in Nacho's thought process in the Walking Dead game, hydra-ing with him. Sometimes scumhunting is more about townreads and PoE than about strong scumreads.
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Post Post #1707 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:06 am

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Morph's Six Top Townreads

Peregrine
Pie
Pyro
Prohawk
Harakiri
Lost Butterfly


Morph's Abilities to Advertise

Cop
Neighborizer
Doctor
Watcher
Wage Freeze


baldeagle's Six Top Town Reads

Pyro
Pene
morph
pieguyn
ProHawk
LB

baldeagle's Abilities to Advertise

Neighborizer
Cop
Doctor
Wage Freeze
Auction Detective


Voided's Six Top Townreads

Peregrine
maybe banakai maybe pie
Pyro
Prohawk
Harakiri
Lost Butterfly

Lost Butterfly's Top Six Townreads


morph
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Pyrotechnics
Harakiri
Lord Mhork
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Harakiri's Top Six Townreads:

Peregrine
Butterfly
ProHawk OR Morph
Muffin
Pie
Eagle

Muffin's Top Six Townreads:

pyro
harakiri
mhork
zdenek
upsidedown
pieguyn

Lord Mhork's Top Six Townreads:

Voidedmafia
zmuffinman
Lost Butterfly
Pyromaniacs
morph the cat
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Lord Mhork's Abilities to Advertise:

Cop
Doctor
Auction Detective
Watcher
Neighborizer

pieguyn's Top Six Townreads:

uwop
Zdenek
baldeagle
LB
Pyro
morph

pieguyn's Abilities to Advertise:

cop
watcher
tracker
wage freeze
federal reserve chairman
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Post Post #1708 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:29 am

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morph wrote:It's bothering me atm that Nacho-garuda isn't pushing for a different lynch at the moment, he's arguing against the two top lynch contenders' wagons
same thing that bothered me. they're "working on it" as of #1635, apparently
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Post Post #1709 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:35 am

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In post 1705, pieguyn wrote:@Voided: you ignoring my question is noted
I wasn't able to get to your responses in time, sorry.
In post 1663, pieguyn wrote:189. yeah that's exactly why I find what I said suspicious
So you find me suspicious for threatening to do the "shot mid-sentence" joke?
In post 1663, pieguyn wrote:442. I can't remember exact specifics on what happened somewhere in those 58 pages that I didn't write down sry
...You really didn't write down what you thought about someone claiming something like investigation immune beyond "I like this"?
In post 1663, pieguyn wrote:524. no I got the impression you were mad because he told you to respond to something he said about just one thing you posted instead of considering everything you posted. i'm tired so I'd love if you could explain better with quotes/links, plz
Well, yes, that is what I'm annoyed about. Strawmanning my LB townread into being only because I didn't like Bald's push is Anti-town at best, and I see no town motivation for Bald to do what he did. Certainly he had to have seen where I mentioned that LB's thoughts behind the II claim plan and the revelation of it furthered my townread on them?
In post 1663, pieguyn wrote:785. no you questioned what the point of the question was. it didn't seem from your other posts that you were suspecting him for asking pointless questions, you just started questioning him for asking questions without explaining anything. this gives the impression you just don't want him asking you questions. it also didn't seem for me that he was asking pointless questions in the first place
Because, as I said, I didn't understand at the time that the two posts in question were very similar (nor did I have a reason to think that there was something amiss at the time), and thought that he was just trying to softly posit some kind of scum intention from the posts in question. I had asked them with the intention of getting him to explain himself about this (and why he had asked that and another question previously that was actually a useless question IMO).
In post 1663, pieguyn wrote:982 a. it's not that you admitted it it's that the way you admitted it just seems weird.
So you found my terse acceptance of the mistake (and my annoyance at him claiming I'm spreading information) scummy?
In post 1663, pieguyn wrote:982 b. no
Perhaps I should elaborate. It looks to me like you decidedly said I was scummy based off of 189. The rest of your responses in regards to me would then be based of whether or not they enforce that scumread or point against it, correct? If so, then I'm saying that you continuing to find me scummy starting from a response to a joke post that wasn't meant to be taken as a serious thing is funny to me.

Of course, if you're just saying that 189 solidified the scumread, then this point is moot.
In post 1663, pieguyn wrote:this doesn't make any sense
Maybe people aren't quicklynching Klick because your single-sentence posts demanding/asking that Klick be quicklynched are getting annoying.
In post 1706, morph the cat wrote:Do we believe you about that post being (part of?) a scenario exploration? I can read it that way, so I'm no longer pushing it as a slip.
Thank you.

And very well.

Also, are abilities like doctor and neighborizer being advertised in advance of the next cycle of auctions?
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Post Post #1710 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:16 pm

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Sorry guys I still have catching up to do, I see some sort of plan is in action, what do you guys new from me right now?
I did read the dice roll post about how the plan will theoretically work.
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Post Post #1711 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:19 pm

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We need your top six town reads (excluding yourself) and the 5 abilities you think are most important to advertise.
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Post Post #1712 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:32 pm

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It's bothering me atm that Nacho-garuda isn't pushing for a different lynch at the moment, he's arguing against the two top lynch contenders' wagons. This applies to LB also, though not to the same extent.
See, the original idea behind hydraing for this game was that I concentrate on strategy and leave all the actual scumhunting to Faraday. Because I can't scumhunt my way out of a paper bag, while Faraday can't strategize his way out of a paper bag! :twisted (I jest.) But then it turned out Faraday couldn't devote much energy to this game or be that engaged, so I've just been sort of flailing. We're working on that.
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Post Post #1713 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:35 pm

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Hey, you could be me and Sakura, each taking turns being really mad and wanting nothing to do with this game.
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Post Post #1714 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:37 pm

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In post 1713, Harakiri wrote:Hey, you could be me and Sakura, each taking turns being really mad and wanting nothing to do with this game.
At least you've both managed to look town while being mad. That's a start!
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Post Post #1715 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:09 pm

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Sorry I still need to catch up, but I'm doing fifty things ATM and might not get to tonight, but I have more time starting tomorrow.

I talked to syry for a few minutes. Our top five town reads are:

Voidedmafia
Lord mhork
Muffin
Peregrine
Pro hawk (syry would like to see more from him to be confident)

We're undecided about the sixth, and I have to finish writing this lecture, so just getting something down for now.
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Post Post #1716 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:35 pm

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In post 1661, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:Klick prides himself on his unconventional scumplay. Also selfvoting for him is as null as it is for Harakiri.
Hopefully Empire can reach a conclusion on him then! Otherwise, Klick just managed to hit most of the right notes out of sheer bullshit luck.
In post 1664, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:Have you just eaten a peanut butter sandwich or something? Why are you calling everything smooth?
It felt like a good word to use yesterday.
In post 1680, zMuffinMan wrote:then that also runs the risk of being called out for not offering to advertise something, so...
This risk doesn't seem to be very large. Do you think it is?
In post 1680, zMuffinMan wrote:that's more a your playstyle vs others' playstyle thing, then? i don't usually have a problem with calling myself obvtown when i'm clearly not.
You're a special case.
In post 1688, Lost Butterfly wrote:having some paranoia of them, actually, but we still think they should be included
Still?
In post 1706, morph the cat wrote:Sometimes scumhunting is more about townreads and PoE than about strong scumreads.
I also want to say I have a good read (or as good a read as I'm going to get) on most players before redirecting the lynch.
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Post Post #1717 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:25 pm

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Read up to page 38, that Hermy wagon was bad for the build up but I guess it was necessary because of lol shortened deadline.
I advertised tracker last night.

scum reads:
ProHawk - not hammering "obv town" after a) proclaiming obv town when person flipped and b) denouncing the hammer AFTER it was a deadline lynch. Your defense of her wasn't pointing out that she was obv town, rather null or not scummy based on inactivity. Huge difference there.
Upside Down - seriously almost nothing coming from this slot. Its like most of the early posts were posts for the sake of posting and looking active
Garuda - Something about the "I like this" list of Voided's posts. He just outlined all the irrelevant, non alignment proving things said by Voided at that point.
Nero - weird push on HaraKiri. Its like the main point of attack is "Sakura is scum for always sheeping Nacho"

Why the hell are you guys so fucking prolific when youre posting??
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Post Post #1718 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:28 pm

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In post 1716, Garuda wrote:I also want to say I have a good read (or as good a read as I'm going to get) on most players before redirecting the lynch.
Time is money. :/
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Post Post #1719 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:30 pm

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In post 1717, DoctorPepper wrote:Read up to page 38, that Hermy wagon was bad for the build up but I guess it was necessary because of lol shortened deadline.
I advertised tracker last night.

scum reads:
ProHawk - not hammering "obv town" after a) proclaiming obv town when person flipped and b) denouncing the hammer AFTER it was a deadline lynch. Your defense of her wasn't pointing out that she was obv town, rather null or not scummy based on inactivity. Huge difference there.
Upside Down - seriously almost nothing coming from this slot. Its like most of the early posts were posts for the sake of posting and looking active
Garuda - Something about the "I like this" list of Voided's posts. He just outlined all the irrelevant, non alignment proving things said by Voided at that point.
Nero - weird push on HaraKiri. Its like the main point of attack is "Sakura is scum for always sheeping Nacho"

Why the hell are you guys so fucking prolific when youre posting??
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Post Post #1720 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:31 pm

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Vote: DoctorPepper


Then let's work on getting this lynched while I'm finishing my holy work.
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Post Post #1721 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:36 pm

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In post 1495, Zdenek wrote:I'll catch up tomorrow.
How's this coming along?
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Post Post #1722 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:40 pm

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In post 1720, Garuda wrote:
Vote: DoctorPepper


Then let's work on getting this lynched while I'm finishing my holy work.
There are 6 scum in this game if it's like the earlier ones.

We can do better than another Hermy vote today.
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Post Post #1723 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:47 pm

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I'll keep on keeping on, then.
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Post Post #1724 (ISO) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:06 pm

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In post 1723, Garuda wrote:I'll keep on keeping on, then.
List your least 6 town. I'm working on the same. Then we can discuss why we're wrong.
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