N's Notably Narcissistic Nonsensical Namesake (game over)

[BBmolla]

Nurse is commonly known as Backup Doc, I think that's a pretty moot point.

[BBmolla]

Also, the non-normalizable roles probably have a higher chance to be scum than obviously normalizable.

Which is why Mit's claim is awkward, because a backup doc isn't non-normal, it's just... you know, a backup.

[Mitillos]

I'm also redirectable. That's the part that I'd expect to be normalised. That I wouldn't compulsively target someone else.

[BBmolla]

Ooooooooooh.

Yeah missed that part.

Varsoon's role stresses me out.

[Shadowy Poison]

I again come to the point that 2 Cops + Normalizer seem overpowered

How is it overpowered in a closed setup where we assume mass claiming would be unbeneficial? AND there is a compulsive framer?

I don't think there are five scum fwiw, fairly certain numbers wise makes more sense for 4.

4/17 seemed like too few but with the underpowered/negative utility town it might make sense.

- Des

[Shadowy Poison]

Networker (

daytalk enabler

) - peacebringer
Nymphomaniac Nurse (

???

) - mitillos
Naive Non-Com Neighbor (naive cop) - bbmolla
Nutty Non-Com Neighbor (paranoid cop neighbor) - RC
Nanny (the babysitter) - SP
Non-Necessary Negligent-er (conditional action delayer) - majiffy
Non-existent Narrator (tree stump) - ooba
Nauseating Numerically-blessed Nominator (hated double-voter) - varsoon
Narcoleptic Nightkiller (

???

) - luna

Nothing Notable - dante, RT

Let's see...yup this completely fits my view of the game right now. Peace is the scum enabler, Dante is the roleblocker fakeclaiming VT, Mit and Majiffy's roles are fake.

- Des


i thought we had more claimed VTs but it's apparently only dante and i.

italicised peacebringer's bracket claim because i don't remember him actually claiming it

without looking at any of them closer, i'd say there's a fairly decent chance of scum being in the players that don't have a bracket claim. maybe. i dunno how likely it is that the mod would just neglect to give them bracket claims when even the VTs got them.

[Luna Lovegood]

I again come to the point that 2 Cops + Normalizer seem overpowered

How is it overpowered in a closed setup where we assume mass claiming would be unbeneficial? AND there is a compulsive framer?

I don't think there are five scum fwiw, fairly certain numbers wise makes more sense for 4.

4/17 seemed like too few but with the underpowered/negative utility town it might make sense.

- Des

5 scum means 4 mislynches needed for the scum to win, which is too few. Generally, scum need a mislynch for every member of their team + 1.

[Shadowy Poison]

^Dunno what happened there, but I was just gonna comment that the full claim list totally supports my view of the game:

Peace is the scum enabler
Dante is the roleblocker fakeclaiming VT
Mit's role is fake
Majiffy's role is fake and also doesn't make any sense for SK to have claimed it as negative utility on P1.

PEdit: That's good info.

Should we do peace first so the rest of them can't daytalk anymore?

- Des

[RadiantCowbells]

We're lynching in BB/Mit

[PeaceBringer]

Why the FUCK are you even thinking about that when it could be 6:5 or 6:4:1 right now?????

- Des

Des, you been around a while. Seriously, tree stump in a normal game? Honestly?

6-4-1- Seriousy. No evidence of an indy/sk...

6-5- possibly but not sure that fits numerically. But, seriously, you going to believe a tree stump claim in a normal?

[Shadowy Poison]

OK so it's 7-4. Treestump stumps, flips town, mafia kills, it's 5-4. What do you think about what Luna said about the Stump claim?

- Des

[Luna Lovegood]

6-5- possibly but not sure that fits numerically. But, seriously, you going to believe a tree stump claim in a normal?

None of these roles are normal.

[Luna Lovegood]

We also aren't playing a normal.

[Luna Lovegood]

Should we do peace first so the rest of them can't daytalk anymore?

I would certainly like to.

[RadiantCowbells]

Peace is the one that I'm least sure is scum.

Please just get Mit or BB.

[PeaceBringer]

Ahh, this is not a normal acutually...doh. So that could be truthful. Need to go look
Luna is scum so don't but any credence into anything they say.

It does appear Shadow, that you are looking scumish as well given what you specified.

actually it looks like Luna, Shadow, and Rail as potential scum. I will engage in more examination tomorrow. Ooba is probably the 4th though...

[PeaceBringer]

Not normal, not bastard. mod said there is at least one Townie. So my guess is one of rail and dante is the liar there. But will engage in more analysis of each claim and the in game behavior as get more time tomorrow.

[PeaceBringer]

Oh and Radiant, if you do not get off your paranoia and start taking the game seriously, then you will cause town to lose. Now if you are scum tunneling, then carry on. That would make 5 scum here though now and ouch.

[PeaceBringer]

No cannot be 5 or they would be all piling on varsoon and it would be game over. (unless varsoon is lying. Do not think so.) That makes it 7-4. THey need to convince 2 people to mis lynch someone. Mis-lynch, kill, pile on varsoon, game over.

[Rail Tracer]

Varsoon's role stresses me out.

ditto

It does appear Shadow, that you are looking scumish as well given what you specified.

go on...

mod said there is at least one Townie. So my guess is one of rail and dante is the liar there.

apart from this being borderline retarded, there have been two VT flips, so technically both of us could be lying.

but yeah, this is borderline retarded logic.

[Varsoon]

Dante deserves a lynch.

Mit, too, but I am feeling the Dante scum more than anything right now.

Sorry I stress you guys out.

[Mitillos]

I'm not sure why people are getting stressed about Varsoon. There are 11 of us. With his power, this means 12 votes. A lynch requires 7 votes. Instead he needs 6. Now, suppose he wasn't a hated double voter. 11 total votes, everyone would need 6 to be voted. His effect is a positive one. It makes everyone else harder to get voted out, making it less likely that mafia can band enough of the town together for a mislynch, since they need one more town for that, than normal.
The only case in which Varsoon becomes a bit of a liability is when there is an even number of us left. If there are 10 of us, everyone will need 6 votes to get lynched, except Varsoon will need 5. Which still doesn't allow mafia to just outright win by piling on him. It takes 50% of the players to lynch him, in that situation, but mafia can't be 50% of us, or they will have already won, anyway.

[ooba]

Upto page 10:
#4 - I don't like SleepyKrew's claim - Delayed night action is hardly that negative to claim unlike miller etc.
#8 - Do not think Varsoon is scum; but rail doing the exact same thing I did makes him unlikely to be scum buddies with Varsoon is he is scum
#41 - Peace's early "What did SK do on D1" is not scummy - but the capitulation in post 41 is. Voting SK to "know" what the negative utility is sounds like a weak reason scum might give to jump on to a wagon.
Peace ~ Maj
#47 - "you have your opinion, I have mine... but carry on...scum" seems very similar to Peace's potshot again at Race in D4 "you're bad aren't you"
I don't know what it means; just an observation
#55 - Dante is probably not scum with Maj
#56 - BBM's "I don't even think he's scum for the claim in particular, I think he's just scum for his postings." on SK still feels like scum trying to over explain their vote
#114 - I think Viera Assassin's obliviousness here is actually a town tell - Also continues in #184
#158 - "I'm not luna's biggest fan right now." - seems ingenious with Luna just posting one post
MUM ~ Luna
#185,#186 - I don't like BBM's defence of PB - "PB is annoying town who will probably get himself mislynched today". The push on SK still seems too strong - "Can we not get distracted from the SK lynch please"
#198 -

@BBM

: "Revelations have me believing SK's role for the moment." - what revelations were these?
#222 - SK's selective attack of Shadow is suspicious. It could mean links with Shadow or the other people who hadn't posted till then. (Luna, Vifam)

I'll also be V\LA for the next 36 hours. Dont lynch before then.

[ooba]

^Good posting by MiT.

Lemme

unvote

before I leave.

[ooba]

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