Marketplace Mafia III - Game Over

[Magua]

Vote Count 2.21

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

DoctorPepper (9): Garuda, PeregrineV, zMuffinMan, JacobSavage, pieguyn, Seanald, Harakiri, 1baldeagle1, VoidedMafia
VoidedMafia (3): BBmolla, uʍop ǝpısdn, Nero Cain
Nero Cain (1): Lord Mhork
Lord Mhork (1): Zdenek
morph the cat (1): Pyrotechnics
Lost Butterfly (1): Lost Butterfly
Seanald (1): ProHawk

Not Voting (3): Ghostly Penguin, DoctorPepper, morph the cat

Deadline for Day 2 is Friday, November 1st, at 2:00pm EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2013-11-01 13:00:00)

[Voidedmafia]

I don't really care Voided, I just really don't.

So instead of pushing the game forward, you instead complain about the pages and effectively do nothing.

Instead of giving us good reasons to pursue another wagon (aka not one-quote reasons that aren't scumslips/claims), you instead snipe at the one that's currently up as if that'll dismantle it in a hurry.

Instead of being active and attempting to post on relevant actions once in awhile, you only come in periodically and contribute little, if anything, to the thread.

When realizing these things, instead of trying to motivate yourself to try harder, you go "meh, I don't care, w/e"

So, if you don't care, get out or start caring. And, yknow, actually start voicing your problems with lynches BEFORE they become prominent?

[morph the cat]

I don't really care Voided, I just really don't.

So instead of pushing the game forward, you instead complain about the pages and effectively do nothing.

Instead of giving us good reasons to pursue another wagon (aka not one-quote reasons that aren't scumslips/claims), you instead snipe at the one that's currently up as if that'll dismantle it in a hurry.

Instead of being active and attempting to post on relevant actions once in awhile, you only come in periodically and contribute little, if anything, to the thread.

When realizing these things, instead of trying to motivate yourself to try harder, you go "meh, I don't care, w/e"

So, if you don't care, get out or start caring. And, yknow, actually start voicing your problems with lynches

BEFORE they become prominent?

This wagon became "prominent" pretty damn quickly.

You really, REALLY make me think my waffling is terrible play and I should stay the course next time I wish you were dead.

[Ghostlin]

Things that stick out, pre page 15: The LB wagon sucks. Really, voting on the $80 comment feels wrong.

Prohawks #175 is bullshit. I've read some bullshit in my time, but no one cares about hypocrisy in quote tags. It's not alignment indictive, and Prohawk's scum for trying to push it.

Mhork #261: if you stop having a pissing contest and worked on being fucking protown, it's really easy not to get mislynched in this game.

For all of the discussion on Page 12, and a few other places where it's discussed Bald=scum, why is no one voting Bald scum?

Molla is either being scum or stupid from his posts. While I'm not fuzzy about LB yet, tehy're right with the muitiquote. Also, no one gives a shit about muitiball day one. Except if you're scum.

Alright. #347's explanation of that gambit sells me on LB Town.

[zMuffinMan]

least posts before a hydra slip, ever

[Ghostly Penguin]

Things that stick out, pre page 15: The LB wagon sucks. Really, voting on the $80 comment feels wrong.

Prohawks #175 is bullshit. I've read some bullshit in my time, but no one cares about hypocrisy in quote tags. It's not alignment indictive, and Prohawk's scum for trying to push it.

Mhork #261: if you stop having a pissing contest and worked on being fucking protown, it's really easy not to get mislynched in this game.

For all of the discussion on Page 12, and a few other places where it's discussed Bald=scum, why is no one voting Bald scum?

Molla is either being scum or stupid from his posts. While I'm not fuzzy about LB yet, tehy're right with the muitiquote. Also, no one gives a shit about muitiball day one. Except if you're scum.

Alright. #347's explanation of that gambit sells me on LB Town.

If anyone can fuck up a hydra, Ghostlin can fuck up a hydra.

[zMuffinMan]

This wagon became "prominent" pretty damn quickly.

while the wagon went from 0->almost lynched pretty quickly, i share the sentiment that he's had like... 7 fucking days to push an alternative and hasn't done anything. soooooo while he couldn't prevent the dr pepper wagon taking off when it did, he could have done more than he's done today beforehand if he really wanted a different lynch to happen.

take his upside down vote, for example. he claims that upside down made the most sense as scum on the hermy wagon (even though two stronger scum reads for him, harakiri and LB, were also on that wagon), but he never explains

why

he thinks this and lazily sits on the upside down vote while asking you to metadive me. even before that, he wasn't doing much more with the harakiri vote - outside of the couple snarky questions he asked the hydra, i can't really find him doing anything with his vote.

i mean, if we're comparing play to cash cabd, look at how different his approach to pushing AK in that game was. he was questioning people about it, asking why people disagreed with it, asking them to re-examine it, etc etc.

[morph the cat]

This wagon became "prominent" pretty damn quickly.

while the wagon went from 0->almost lynched pretty quickly, i share the sentiment that he's had like... 7 fucking days to push an alternative and hasn't done anything. soooooo while he couldn't prevent the dr pepper wagon taking off when it did, he could have done more than he's done today beforehand if he really wanted a different lynch to happen.

take his upside down vote, for example. he claims that upside down made the most sense as scum on the hermy wagon (even though two stronger scum reads for him, harakiri and LB, were also on that wagon), but he never explains

why

he thinks this and lazily sits on the upside down vote while asking you to metadive me. even before that, he wasn't doing much more with the harakiri vote - outside of the couple snarky questions he asked the hydra, i can't really find him doing anything with his vote.

i mean, if we're comparing play to cash cabd, look at how different his approach to pushing AK in that game was. he was questioning people about it, asking why people disagreed with it, asking them to re-examine it, etc etc.

As you noted, that was a smaller game that was easier to keep up with. It was also at times one of the slower-paced games I've played at MS.

I've seen ProHawk struggle to stay caught up in really fast-paced games. His play here fits that mold.

[zMuffinMan]

how does his play differ when scum?

[morph the cat]

Cabd has present: http://www.sixprizes.com/forums/threads ... -win.9494/

A ProHawk scum game.

[morph the cat]

how does his play differ when scum?

The one game I've played where he was scum, he was in a hydra with Cabd, so it's not easy to say for sure who posted what. In fact they checked over each other's every post before hitting submit on day 1 and part of day 2.

They weren't pushing corner-case lynches that had no chance of going through iirc. And the scum team actually voted as a bloc and prevented a scum lynch on day 1. Maybe on day 2, also.

A Memory of Light, GoodCop_BadCop: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=28438

[morph the cat]

how does his play differ when scum?

A Memory of Light, GoodCop_BadCop: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=28438

For the record, a list of who posted what, listed by ISO number.

Spoiler: Da List

Cabd:
0
1
6
8
9
10
12
14
15
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
30
31
32
33
38
39
40
41
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
69
70
71
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
87
88
89
90
97
99
100
101
102
103
104
105
106
107
108
109
110
111
112
113
114
115

Hawk:
2
3
4
5
7
11
13
16
17
18
26
27
28
29
34
35
36
37
42
68
72 (i think, I kinda forget actually, might have been me)
91
92
93
94
95
96
98

[morph the cat]

Where's Empire-garuka?

[zMuffinMan]

I've seen ProHawk struggle to stay caught up in really fast-paced games. His play here fits that mold.

which game/s is this referring to?

[fferyllt]

I've seen ProHawk struggle to stay caught up in really fast-paced games. His play here fits that mold.

which game/s is this referring to?

NY165.

AMoL at times as well. Cabd basically took over posting partway through day 2 with infrequent input from Prohawk after that. Though IIRC Prohawk pushed me for a few posts early on day 3 that set up an otherwise premature mass claim :/

[morph the cat]

I've seen ProHawk struggle to stay caught up in really fast-paced games. His play here fits that mold.

which game/s is this referring to?

NY165.

AMoL at times as well. Cabd basically took over posting partway through day 2 with infrequent input from Prohawk after that. Though IIRC Prohawk pushed me for a few posts early on day 3 that set up an otherwise premature mass claim :/

hydra slip :/

[Voidedmafia]

This wagon became "prominent" pretty damn quickly

So? That doesn't mean that only now he has to come up and start deriding it. What kept him from doing it when there were only 5 votes and I was actually a competing wagon?

As you noted, that was a smaller game that was easier to keep up with. It was also at times one of the slower-paced games I've played at MS.

I've seen ProHawk struggle to stay caught up in really fast-paced games. His play here fits that mold.

But nothing Muffin noted looks like it's from a town motivation. Even if what you say is true, it's still rather anti-town behavior.

[morph the cat]

This wagon became "prominent" pretty damn quickly

So? That doesn't mean that only now he has to come up and start deriding it. What kept him from doing it when there were only 5 votes and I was actually a competing wagon?

As you noted, that was a smaller game that was easier to keep up with. It was also at times one of the slower-paced games I've played at MS.

I've seen ProHawk struggle to stay caught up in really fast-paced games. His play here fits that mold.

But nothing Muffin noted looks like it's from a town motivation. Even if what you say is true, it's still rather anti-town behavior.

You say "anti-town" rather than "scummy". Isn't he in your scumpile?

[Voidedmafia]

You say "anti-town" rather than "scummy". Isn't he in your scumpile?

...no, he isn't. He hasn't been since, like, 5 days in or so.

[morph the cat]

I was thinking of about a week ago I guess: 1244

Going through your iso it's not entirely clear when you changed your read.

[BBmolla]

Molla is either being scum or stupid from his posts. While I'm not fuzzy about LB yet, tehy're right with the muitiquote. Also, no one gives a shit about muitiball day one. Except if you're scum.

What exactly would make me stupid or scum in particular

Because I can probably attribute it off to being stupid but I need to know what you're referring to

[morph the cat]

Actually, you have him in your 6 towniest list now.

This is quite a list of complaints for someone on that list:

I don't really care Voided, I just really don't.

So instead of pushing the game forward, you instead complain about the pages and effectively do nothing.

Instead of giving us good reasons to pursue another wagon (aka not one-quote reasons that aren't scumslips/claims), you instead snipe at the one that's currently up as if that'll dismantle it in a hurry.

Instead of being active and attempting to post on relevant actions once in awhile, you only come in periodically and contribute little, if anything, to the thread.

When realizing these things, instead of trying to motivate yourself to try harder, you go "meh, I don't care, w/e"

So, if you don't care, get out or start caring. And, yknow, actually start voicing your problems with lynches BEFORE they become prominent?

[zMuffinMan]

i haven't really read through many of the games linked yet, except LN165, and i don't know how you think his play here is similar. his play there is exactly like his play in cash cabd; pushing his scum lynch (BRO) over and over, etc etc. show me anywhere he's pushed any of his reads like that here. i'll look at the other games in a bit.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

THE PLAN: READ IT

If your name is:

Lost Butterfly
morph
Pyro
Pie
Peregrine
upside down

then tonight you sit down and get money. Bid as you see fit, advertise items not in the five you want to see avaialble, play strategically.

If your name is not on that list and you are town:

Advertise 5 dollars each on these items:
Cop
Doctor
Watcher
Wage Freeze
Tracker

Then roll a 6 sided dice. Keep your roll a secret from any neighbor you might have.
If it is a 1, send all your remaining money to Lost Butterfly
If it is a 2, send all your remaining money to Morph the Cat
If it is a 3, send all your remaining money to Pyrotechnics
If it is a 4, send all your remaining money to Pieguyn
If it is a 5, send all your remaining money to PeregrineV
If it is a 6, send all your remaining money to Upside Down

If you don't have physical dice laying around, then you can roll virtual dice here: http://www.random.org/dice/

NOTE: This process will work best if it works randomly. Please don't pick your personal favorite out of of the Top Townie list. Roll the dice and do what the Goddess of Chaos bids.

Lucky number 6!!

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

@Magua: I'd like to replace out

Magua, I retract my replacement request

Zdenek and Klick have been prodded.

JacobSavage replaces Klick.

So Klick requested replacement, cancelled his request, and then flaked? What a

dick

. It probably does mean he's town after all, but seriously that is low. Like, worse than mcqueen.