You pushed both Peregrine and us about it repeatedly until we conceded it can be read as you say you meant it.In post 1974, Voidedmafia wrote:That's what you said it was before my response to Peregrine about it -_-.
"was/were" claiming, then. But when you said it was wasn't my point there.In post 1975, morph the cat wrote:You pushed both Peregrine and us about it repeatedly until we conceded it can be read as you say you meant it.
So, why characterize this as "are claiming"?
Keep reading. You'll be a happy man soon.In post 1971, Ghostly Penguin wrote:#428 Garuda: I'd rather you be mastubatory with your reads list. I want to watch your thought processes. Consider me the ceiling cat of your brain.
I liked Muffin's attack on LB quite a bit. His initial attack is down the similar path of upside down/prohawk, but he's the first one to actually pursue it. It's also a push that comes mid bald eagle, which was someone he could have pressured and could have broken a bit early game and there's no real reason to drop that in favor of a LB push that early.
This push on eagle made sense when he explained it, although it still kind of creeps me out that he ended up pushing baldeagle for that long.In post 240, zMuffinMan wrote:i don't think the specifics of it were calculated, but i do think he could have planned feigning ignorance without thinking about the specifics. i think this is more likely than baldy genuinely being this dense. the 3 scum thing is the most blatant of these, but another example is, "omg scum started with more than $100?!?!" i mean, anyone with half a brain can figure out that there's something going on when there are bids of more than $100, and if he's town he should be wondering how the fuck that happened and thinking about how it happened, not saying what he said.
This marks the start of the turnaround on the bald read, I think.In post 395, zMuffinMan wrote:why are you still voting bald, btw?
I liked this reasoning for Nat-town.In post 745, zMuffinMan wrote:the fact that the nati half hasn't even attempted to buddy anyone yet, and is being rather reserved in his reads on nacho, ffery and myself after a few recently finished games, is a point in their favour, i think.
This attack was good.In post 984, zMuffinMan wrote:people who keep saying that prohawk not voting hermy is evidence he thought hermy was obvtown are missing the point entirely. the issue isn't what his read was, but how he came about that read (i mean, fuck, if hermy was so obvtown then WHY WAS PROHAWK THE ONLY ONE WHO THOUGHT IT WAS OBVIOUS FOR REASONS THAT MAKE NO SENSE?) and why he did nothing with that read if it was so fucking obvious to him (which is more interesting given he's now criticising mhork's weak D1 play).
This frustration probably wasn't faked. I would expect scum-Muffin in this situation to continue ripping Nero apart as opposed to taking the "please replace Nero with a doorknob" angle.In post 1405, zMuffinMan wrote:like... how fucking dumb are you?
@MOD,
Can we replace Nero with a doorknob?
Need something a bit more intelligent in that slot.
Why did you get a townread on pieguy there?
What do you think of his replace out, self vote, retract replacement, then replace out? I have small niggles of paranoia that he was going to replace out anyways and decided to do it in as townie a way as possible.In post 1570, zMuffinMan wrote:yeah tierce thought it was a strategic replace out, but i don't think it was. and the situation was a bit different to here.
Do you feel better now?In post 1921, zMuffinMan wrote:and i'm surprised you left me asking the mod to replace nero with a doorknob out of that series of quotes. kind of disappointing, actually, since i think that was my best one.
This is a good point from someone who doesn't know about hawkie getting lost in larges.In post 1931, zMuffinMan wrote:i mean, if we're comparing play to cash cabd, look at how different his approach to pushing AK in that game was. he was questioning people about it, asking why people disagreed with it, asking them to re-examine it, etc etc.
i liked 1434/1435 a lot.garuda wrote:Why did you get a townread on pieguy there?
i wasn't really ranking/ordering within tiers if that's what you mean by "up so high". the third tier of reads was people i think are likely town but don't have any super-strong feelings about them.garuda wrote:and why the hell was klick up so high
I gathered that. Why?In post 1980, zMuffinMan wrote:i liked 1434/1435 a lot.
OK, why did you think he was likely town?In post 1980, zMuffinMan wrote:the third tier of reads was people i think are likely town but don't have any super-strong feelings about them.
this seems a kind of weird reaction for scum in this postion to me. i.e. he's about to get fucking quicklynched so he...baits people (which makes them less likely to unvote?). i've never played with doctorpepper but is he really likely to fake this type of thing as scum?In post 1887, DoctorPepper wrote:Ohh, a wagon on me led by my scum read. Predictable.
This seems like townhawk conviction.In post 67, ProHawk wrote:Nope, just the fact that you tried to use it in your first post to posture yourself as town. It looked fake, and I am pretty sure it was fake and you are scum.In post 61, Lost Butterfly wrote:Why do you find that post so suspicious? I mean, is it that unlikely that a townie would bid on investigation immune?
Good paranoia.In post 162, ProHawk wrote:Sounds like you both are scum-reading him then. You not voting is making me worry.In post 155, morph the cat wrote:I'll let ffery talk about her reasons but for me it's around a 6 or 7.In post 151, ProHawk wrote:On a scale of 1-10?In post 145, morph the cat wrote:This is why voided is scum btw.
'In post 716, ProHawk wrote:Self-Votes make me cringe, especially the way it was done "on principle".
Voting while placing the responsibility on someone else for said vote.
This pep talk strikes me as pretty townish because it strikes me as Hawk attempting to herd a bit, make sure that something like yesterday's fiasco doesn't happen again.In post 970, ProHawk wrote:You have a defeatist attitude. You are willing to let others dictate what is done. The "There wasn't much we could do" is a farce, and maybe if you would have taken a stand against lynching someone you felt was going to flip town, something could have been done to get an actual scum-lynch. This is why I said if you are town, you are handing the game on a silver platter.
I liked this too.In post 986, ProHawk wrote:But on another note, your question had/has me baffled. My reasons may make no sense to you, but they are logical, and I do hope when this is all over you reflect on what happened/how it happened, because it was accurate. My working hypothesis, however is that it was heavily scum-driven who made the wagon look appealing.
this sucks fyi he parenthesis feels like an over justificationIn post 1876, JacobSavage wrote:Wait - what;
UNVOTE:
Also whats with the 1.5 days compared to 18 hours?
VOTE: DoctorPepper
Trim the Dead wood. (I was going to do a comparative ISO of Voided to DP but then I saw the size difference...)
I expected the town response to be an incredible amount of flail. He usually has conviction in pretty much everything he says and his reaction was very meh, sounded resigned.In post 1984, Lost Butterfly wrote:this seems a kind of weird reaction for scum in this postion to me. i.e. he's about to get fucking quicklynched so he...baits people (which makes them less likely to unvote?). i've never played with doctorpepper but is he really likely to fake this type of thing as scum?In post 1887, DoctorPepper wrote:Ohh, a wagon on me led by my scum read. Predictable.
I guess i'd just expect him to be putting *something* out there as scum in an effort to try and stop the wagon on him?In post 1988, Garuda wrote:I expected the town response to be an incredible amount of flail. He usually has conviction in pretty much everything he says and his reaction was very meh, sounded resigned.In post 1984, Lost Butterfly wrote:this seems a kind of weird reaction for scum in this postion to me. i.e. he's about to get fucking quicklynched so he...baits people (which makes them less likely to unvote?). i've never played with doctorpepper but is he really likely to fake this type of thing as scum?In post 1887, DoctorPepper wrote:Ohh, a wagon on me led by my scum read. Predictable.
This was him getting quicklynched in Dixon Hill. A bit of complaining for the bad lynch, a bit of conviction. I can't see one of his scumreads pushing him and getting him lynched and him not freaking out more than what he did.In post 1087, SalmonellaDoctor wrote:I dont even understand a lot of Bert's play so far. Its just "sheep X", no "Sheep Y". X is scum, no Y is scum.
"Im sheeping Cait Sith" "No wei, Jiffy's right"
"SD is scum" "SD is a mislynch."
CONFUSING AS FUCK
I actually dont see CS scum. How is this?
BTW thanks for hammering us early. I wonder why no one gave Bert any shit for that. Maybe I was V/LA bert so I didnt have anything to say, because I didnt have a chance to.
GG. good luck town
DP
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huh. that's a different reaction but he's already been hammered here, and I still don't neccessarily see that reaction coming from scum?In post 1993, Garuda wrote:This was him getting quicklynched in Dixon Hill. A bit of complaining for the bad lynch, a bit of conviction. I can't see one of his scumreads pushing him and getting him lynched and him not freaking out more than what he did.