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Post Post #2000 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:07 pm

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Vote Count 2.22


With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

DoctorPepper (9): Garuda, PeregrineV, zMuffinMan, JacobSavage, pieguyn, Seanald, Harakiri, 1baldeagle1, VoidedMafia
VoidedMafia (4): BBmolla, uʍop ǝpısdn, Nero Cain, ProHawk
Nero Cain (2): Lord Mhork, Lost Butterfly
Lord Mhork (1): Zdenek
morph the cat (1): Pyrotechnics

Not Voting (3): Ghostly Penguin, DoctorPepper, morph the cat

Deadline for Day 2 is Friday, November 1st, at 2:00pm EST (site time).
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(expired on 2013-11-01 13:00:00)
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Post Post #2001 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:09 pm

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Faraday, coming back to the thread didn't mean you spammed posts for half a page -_-.
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Also keep an eye for setup review requests.
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Post Post #2002 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:10 pm

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In post 1997, Lost Butterfly wrote:Er, I know you gave thoughts on them but given most of your reads lists so far boil down to "has some good posts" where do they fall in the grand scheme of things?
I want to talk to empire about klick, but he feels scummy right now. Nero is also scummy, but he's probably the weakest of my scumreads at the moment.
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Post Post #2003 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:11 pm

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Reading JacobSavage is usually a crapshoot, though. Either he does something that looks pretty fucking townie one time or he does absolutely nothing.
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Post Post #2004 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:12 pm

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HEY BALDEAGLE
why are we town? I.e. what changed so dramatically between Day 1 and today when we made your list. Did you answer that already? I mean, considering I don't think Mina has actually done much today other than post an advertising claim (which is apparently cool?) but we've just been generally not as A+ players (bear in mind I'm fucking awesome in general) as we could I'd have thought your scum read on us would have strengthened? But now we're a town read? Which posts of ours since
No. You are getting lynched today.
changed your mind? Or was there a point where it just clicked that we're *that* fucking town and you'd been wrong all this time?

!!

i think tammy asked why we asked her about that, it was mostly Mina was weirded out by some of the lack of follow up from yesterday and other than balkdeagle's initial slips i kinda felt he'd been chugging along after that? so I wanted to disguise the question by asking both of you.

actually prohawk had something similar where he voted upside down on the wagon yesterday but he scumread us prior to the wagon that I completely didn't understand. but that kind of made sense when he went through the votes (I think he did? or categorised them)
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Post Post #2005 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:14 pm

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In post 2001, Voidedmafia wrote:Faraday, coming back to the thread didn't mean you spammed posts for half a page -_-.
Faracorp would like to thank you for your vital service in playing this game. However they would also like to remind you that under article 6, paragraph seven, subsection 2 faraday can spam the fuck out of any thread at any point

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Post Post #2006 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:15 pm

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LB wrote:actually prohawk had something similar where he voted upside down on the wagon yesterday but he scumread us prior to the wagon that I completely didn't understand. but that kind of made sense when he went through the votes (I think he did? or categorised them)
it didn't really make sense. he categorised them into "pushed, gave reasons, no reasons" and then said upsidedown made the most sense... because.

and i've asked him to explain this like 10 times now but he keeps ignoring it
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Post Post #2007 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:19 pm

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In post 1800, Pyrotechnics wrote:
In post 1630, Lost Butterfly wrote:Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt the robotic Facebook "I LIKE THIS" type posts that seem to going into excruciatingly unnecessary detail at times but I am curious!
You're still not scumhunting.
You should have quoted your earlier post re: this. It gets more style points than repetition. And yes, that's true, but it can hardly be helped. I can't force myself to scumhunt successfully, so if I'm not in the right frame of mind I'm just not going to do it or work behind the scenes until I feel slightly cock/egotistical again. And well dealwithitdog.jpg
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Post Post #2008 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:21 pm

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In post 241, Lord Mhork wrote:@Lost Butterfly:
I don't think you're town. I think you're an asshole. And your assholeness is getting in the way of me trying to figure out your alignment. Usually when I lynch an asshole, he flips town, but you seem like the kind of guy who's an asshole town or scum. So I'm gonna wait to see what you do while I pursue other people. Like Seanald who I remember being fairly transparent as scum.
Mhork's posting was boring as shit until about here, where he started seeming decently town.
In post 478, Lord Mhork wrote:I'm not scum. Also look at where the suspicion was when the deadline thing was popped. If I were scum, why on earth would I suddenly put a deadline hounding down especially with Lost Butterfly hounding me like he's got a guilty. The alternative is that the other scum team is trying to get me lynched, but since this is semi-multiball that implies that they want Lost Butterfly/BBMolla to get me strung up today. If they thought I were a possible scum ally, why would they do that? More likely they see an easy mislynch opportunity because Butterfly is tunneling me into oblivion.
I didn't like the reasoning he used here very much, but at least he spoke it with conviction. Another point to this being more likely to be coming from town is that it's probably wrong (as in Mhork wagon was formed after deadline was submitted), and I think scum would pull something like this in an attempt to clear themselves, but it's still not good.
In post 478, Lord Mhork wrote:I have Medium x3. I won it for $3 which came as a shock to me as I put down $20, though I guess that I overestimated its usefulness due to not completely reading it.
I also bid $50 on Cop 'cause I figured it would be a strong bid, which it wasn't, and I bid $30 on Gravedigger 'cause I thought it sounded cool. My current balance is $89.
Claim is good, though. The weirdness of it all felt decently town.
In post 521, Lord Mhork wrote:Garuda, do you think it's possible whomever put money towards medium was scum trying to flood the market with useless junk?
Conspiracy theory, town.
In post 626, Lord Mhork wrote:And I have been wavering with my read on you guys. It's tough. On one hand I get blinded when people are dicks to me. However as I'm seeing more of your posting, the stuff not directed towards being a dick to me is looking better.
I'm not sure I like this that much. The only reason he has for calling LB scummy here is because they're being dicks to him, but he acknowledges that he's usually blinded by things like that and yet is still "wavering". Seemed like unnecessary fencesitting to me.
In post 643, Lord Mhork wrote:...does anyone read my posts? Zdenek advertised Medium and put no money towards it. I speculated that it could be because he was trying to flood the market with useless shit (which Medium really is now that I've read it). I've mentioned that a couple times now.
I liked the push based on his conspiracy theory, but I don't understand why Love Potion/Vote Freezer weren't regarded as "useless shit".
In post 748, Lord Mhork wrote:Uh... I guess I'm considering voting Hermy, though I don't really like how the wagon came out of nowhere >.<

More thoughts tomorrow after I sleep and whatnot.
Asks for a case on the Hermy wagon, mentions that he feels uncomfortable with it... never follows up on it. Ever.
In post 949, Lord Mhork wrote:I mean I figured he'd probably flip town, but he also was an easy target with definite scum on the wagon.
Why didn't you mention that while Hermy was being lynched?
In post 975, Lord Mhork wrote:LB feels townie because the other head stopped being a dick and starting making sense to me. Pyro is super townie to me for the same reasons as before. Upside gives some decent vibes, though I'm not as solid here. Voideds posts make sense to me and they sound pretty townie. I don't understand where all the hatred is coming from. You seem to legitimately be hunting and trying to discern alignment, which is good. And Garuda's reads tended to line up with mine.
All strong players are town? I also don't like that his reasoning for us being town was that our reads lined up with each other when we pushed the Hermy wagon pretty strongly and he thought she would flip town.
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But this isn't my scum game. If I were scum, I'd just coast by lurking and promising vague catch up posts.

PEDIT:
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Well this'll prolly be my last post for the night anyway.
I liked this, felt genuine, like he believes his scumgame is absolutely horrible and he is playing a level above it that he could not fake and is trying to express that to everyone else.
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Post Post #2009 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:22 pm

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In post 1747, Zdenek wrote:I don't really feel like reading all of the walls. Is there any reason not to lynch Voided or Mhork that I am unaware of?
How up to date are you? Mhork looks pretty town after his initial posting. Why do you still have a scumread on him? When you're next around, quickly ISO him and tell me if you still believe in this sentiment. He basically picked it up once I annoyed the fuck out of him, I thought. (Which is fair and what I was kind of going for -- also he has said some things I don't think he'd say as scm.

I'm less sure on voided but don't think he's a *good* wagon.
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Post Post #2010 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:23 pm

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Hey, upside inside out livin' la vida loca. Can I get a summary of your strong reads?
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Post Post #2011 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:24 pm

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In post 442, Zdenek wrote:I have both the investigation immunity and the hitman abilities, bitches.
I liked this and the "bitches" part sold me fantastically.
In post 1230, Zdenek wrote:Can you say why you think the strong players are all town? I'm inclined to think that's not the case because of no one dying last night.
I liked this, but I don't like that he doesn't glance into any of the strong players at all.
In post 1749, Zdenek wrote:zMuff is probably scum.
...but this clears that up.

Don't like how absolutely disconnected he is from the game, he hasn't done shit except get hitman and investigative immune.
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Post Post #2012 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:27 pm

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I agree with Nacho's girlfriend's taste in avatars. Although not boyfriends.
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Post Post #2013 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:28 pm

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In post 2007, Lost Butterfly wrote:until I feel slightly cock
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Post Post #2014 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:29 pm

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she's just with me because she wants me to be her beard, no one could actually love me
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Post Post #2015 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:30 pm

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I had a cock once, but it got killed by a fox.
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Post Post #2016 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:30 pm

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In post 2002, Garuda wrote:
In post 1997, Lost Butterfly wrote:Er, I know you gave thoughts on them but given most of your reads lists so far boil down to "has some good posts" where do they fall in the grand scheme of things?
I want to talk to empire about klick, but he feels scummy right no
w. Nero is also scummy, but he's probably the weakest of my scumreads at the moment.
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Post Post #2017 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:35 pm

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In post 2004, Lost Butterfly wrote:
HEY BALDEAGLE
why are we town? I.e. what changed so dramatically between Day 1 and today when we made your list. Did you answer that already? I mean, considering I don't think Mina has actually done much today other than post an advertising claim (which is apparently cool?) but we've just been generally not as A+ players (bear in mind I'm fucking awesome in general) as we could I'd have thought your scum read on us would have strengthened? But now we're a town read? Which posts of ours since
No. You are getting lynched today.
changed your mind? Or was there a point where it just clicked that we're *that* fucking town and you'd been wrong all this time?

!!

i think tammy asked why we asked her about that, it was mostly Mina was weirded out by some of the lack of follow up from yesterday and other than balkdeagle's initial slips i kinda felt he'd been chugging along after that? so I wanted to disguise the question by asking both of you.

actually prohawk had something similar where he voted upside down on the wagon yesterday but he scumread us prior to the wagon that I completely didn't understand. but that kind of made sense when he went through the votes (I think he did? or categorised them)
HEY LB. You are prob town because Voided was WKing you on Day 1 during your wagon. I have a bad history with WKers. I lost to scum in a game where scum kept WKing like crazy. :/

Yo, Garuda. Scumhunting > Townhunting.

Hurry up and lynch DP plz. I want teh monies.
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Post Post #2018 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:35 pm

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In post 2016, morph the cat wrote:
In post 2002, Garuda wrote:
In post 1997, Lost Butterfly wrote:Er, I know you gave thoughts on them but given most of your reads lists so far boil down to "has some good posts" where do they fall in the grand scheme of things?
I want to talk to empire about klick, but he feels scummy right no
w. Nero is also scummy, but he's probably the weakest of my scumreads at the moment.
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Post Post #2019 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:37 pm

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I don't remember the timing exactly, but when I was pushing for a klick lynch you were telling me he looked town.
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Post Post #2020 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:42 pm

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The "fuck you guys, just lynch me" part felt pretty town. He gets more emotional when people shit on him, so the fact that he melted down at that point made sense and seemed to be coming from town more than scum. The replace out after was the weird part.
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Post Post #2021 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:46 pm

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In post 21, 1baldeagle1 wrote:
In post 19, Pyrotechnics wrote:We only started with $100. All of those items went for over $100.
Ah, scum gets more money? Lame.
This looks kind of weird, but I could see baldeagle doing something like that.
In post 109, 1baldeagle1 wrote:
In post 105, zMuffinMan wrote:also there's an incredible amount of iioa and fluff in all of baldy's posts, compared to zero actual content.
Oh, sorry for not analyzing everyone's post in the first hour of the game.

The butterfly wagon needs more motivation, let me convince you all. Brb.
I agree w/morph that the assertiveness is more likely coming from town eagle than scum eagle.
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In post 15, Lost Butterfly wrote:VOTE: Pyrotechnics

Anyone with the following abilities should claim right away: Deadline, Hitman, Investigative Immune, Nightkill. I'd want Extra Vote and Vote Freezer to claim, too.

We got Investigation Immune! I can't believe it was so cheap. We even bid $80 on it to keep it out of scum's hands.
Got an ability that helps scum (aka you?) Nice job! Congrats!
In post 36, Lost Butterfly wrote:
In post 19, Pyrotechnics wrote:We only started with $100. All of those items went for over $100.
Ah, scum gets more money? Lame.
So you considered bidding $101 on any of those abilities? Also, what made you decide to bid on Vote Freezer in particular? Did you bid more than $11 on it?

Garuda and upside down, enlighten me with the thought process behind sharing with the town that you <i>didn't</i> get roles. Also, Empire, why do you want <i>neighbourizer</i> in particular to claim?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH STOP NINJA-ING ME.

Fixed broken quote tag.
Just a question on the neighborzier claim thing.
In post 44, Lost Butterfly wrote:Also, I think everyone should claim if they advertised or what they advertised on. Not the actual amount.
More claming.
In post 61, Lost Butterfly wrote:OMIGOD, STOP NINJAING ME.

@Prohawk: Interesting.

Why do you find that post so suspicious? I mean, is it
that
unlikely that a townie would bid on investigation immune?

1) Honestly, Faraday and I have been talking with Magua for the past couple of days in a hydra QT, but I'm not sure that's a "QT" slip so much as me being incompetent at formatting quotes. I posted BBcode tags in the hydra QT, too.

2) @Muffin: that question was a crosspost, and I didn't see baldeagle had actually answered.
Just some question answered, and blah blah.
In post 62, Lost Butterfly wrote:
In post 51, Pyrotechnics wrote:
In post 36, Lost Butterfly wrote:
In post 19, Pyrotechnics wrote:We only started with $100. All of those items went for over $100.
Ah, scum gets more money? Lame.
So you considered bidding $101 on any of those abilities? Also, what made you decide to bid on Vote Freezer in particular? Did you bid more than $11 on it?

Garuda and upside down, enlighten me with the thought process behind sharing with the town that you <i>didn't</i> get roles. Also, Empire, why do you want <i>neighbourizer</i> in particular to claim?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH STOP NINJA-ING ME.
VOTE: Lost Butterfly

One: You're responding to me when you should be asking baldeagle about vote freezer.

Two: I bid $100 on neighborizer as that's all I have.

Three: Garuda hasn't posted yet.

Four: Empire is part of Garuda. I'm the one who wants the neighborizer to claim. It should be pretty self-explanatory. The scum teams can win together. They have the cop role. Once they find each other, they can communicate through a neighborhood. (This is actually pretty certain. Last game it cost me over $500 to win the neighborizer from scum who had won cop and found the other team.) So, the neighborizer needs to claim so that we can evaluate them and keep track of the neighborhood if need be. Last game we were lucky and town won neighborizer both times and we used it really effectively, and we made public who won the neighborizer.
...oh.

Um...I...

...actually...thought your first post...was Garuda.

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Two mistakes now? You QT slipped (you must have been posting a crap load of stuff) and now you had some misinformation.
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Oh no! The evil quote tags have attacked!
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In post 71, zMuffinMan wrote:
lost butterfly wrote:Why do you find that post so suspicious? I mean, is it that unlikely that a townie would bid on investigation immune?
not directed at me, but while i don't find going for investigation immunity suspicious, i do think that if scum really wanted it, $80 wouldn't be enough to stop them from getting it. and i think you would know this. you never answered upside down's question about why you thought $80 would be enough to stop scum getting it.
If you really wanted to stop scum from getting it, you would throw all of your money on it, not just some. Were you only able to bid $80 because you used your other $20 to help your scumbuddies?

Well, gee. I don't know. I guess I just thought $100 was too much to spend on an ability that was useless to me! And I wanted to save some extra money in the long term. We did consider going for $100, but then settled for $80. I'm not really sure what you think the difference between claiming $80 and $100 is. ^_^
I have been in a hydra before, but we don't talk a whole lot.
I talk A LOT with Faraday, but mostly on AIM. But for this game, I've been asking Magua five zillion questions about every single role interaction in the hydra QT.
If you really wanted to stop scum from getting it, you would throw all of your money on it, not just some. Were you only able to bid $80 because you used your other $20 to help your scumbuddies?

Also, like Pyro said, if you had lots of questions about the role interaction claims, then why are you asking for a reason on why neighborizer should claim?
In post 94, Lost Butterfly wrote:VOTE: Voidedmafia

HAIIII to you too!

Why did you advertise Extra Vote in particular? Also, thoughts on baldeagle's most recent posts?

Hey, Muffin, what's your current read on baldeagle?
Is it just me or he's trying to ask a bunch of people for my read on me in hopes of them calling me scum so the wagon goes off of him?

Fixed broken quote tag.
And sticking his neck out this incredibly far so early in the game felt genuine as hell.
In post 133, 1baldeagle1 wrote:I wasn't calling it fluff, I was saying it had no meaning.
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In post 448, 1baldeagle1 wrote:No. You are getting lynched today.
Love the conviction.
In post 448, 1baldeagle1 wrote:I agree. Mhork's view on LB seemed forced.
And the fact that the conviction translates to scumhunting for his buddies also seemed good and incredibly ballsy coming from eagle-scum, especially since this was when people started to call them town.
In post 494, 1baldeagle1 wrote:Tbh, I'm starting to believe that Voided is just WKing LB, so when we lynch LB, he flips town and Voided gets some towncred. I have past experiences with scum WKing me, so there's that. If anyone wants to see the game where there was a whole bunch of WKing going on by scum (I was town in that game and I lost). It's Newbie 1414 on my wiki.
This felt genuine.

The shift in and of itself is sudden as hell, though, which is kind of strange since Voided has quite the wagon on him at that time and he goes from "LBscumLBscumLBscum" to "LBtownLBtownLBtown" because someone had an odd defense of them.
In post 1479, 1baldeagle1 wrote:Well, if we quicklynch Klick in less than 18 hours, then we get $50 as a bonus along with the daily $50. So every town gets $100. Which is perfectly fine with me, because I think Klick is acting pretty scummy and the other good thing is that Voided won't be able to get $100 after today!
The excitement about quicklynching for monies was town in the way's Harakiri's was.
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Post Post #2022 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:47 pm

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And guess who the final read is?
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Post Post #2023 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:49 pm

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magua?
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Post Post #2024 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:03 pm

Post by Garuda »

Spoiler: Magua, spoilered because it's so fucking long
In post 757, Klick wrote:Lol this is easy mode.
As scum, I like framing games as easier than they already are as sort of a rhetorical point; when you're going "yeah this game is easy, vote X" people are more likely to follow you because they believe you have a better handle of things at that point. I don't know why he would be having an easy time with it as town considering he's left behind and being lazy as fuck.
In post 899, Klick wrote:I've never spent any money, ever.

VOTE: VoidedMafia
Claim sucks.
In post 915, Klick wrote:ProHawk's answer is pretty poor. He pretty clearly didn't think Hermy was obvious town.
This is actually just wrong and it seemed like Klick was jumping on the Prohawk hate bandwagon.
In post 1483, Klick wrote:I think it's better than letting my slot get quicklynched for no apparent reason and would help my alignment in any case.
This
reeked
of tactical replacement.
In post 1488, Klick wrote:Last post in here. But that's not actually the only reason I'm requesting reason, just part of it. I really don't have time to continue playing this game successfully, and I saw that as a way to make the game
better
, not worse. But, since everyone's throwing a pissy fit over it:

Magua, I retract my replacement request


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VOTE: Klick

Enjoy your money.
I thought this was pretty fucking town. He goes to replace out, gets shit on in thread, then comes back in and gives everyone the middle finger. As scum, I'm not sure how he'd react, but I don't think he'd react like this.
In post 1504, Klick wrote:Morph... I am having the exact same thoughts as I have in previously, just on a much shorter scale due to the lack of areas that I've been able to read in detail and the size of the game. I've also come to find that when I make the observations that I usually make,
I don't get listened to.
you want to know who's incredibly obvious town in this game? Mhork. Pyro. pie. Nero. LB. ProHawk. All six of them are very likely town to me, but the reasoning I use for about four of those is so different from the "normal" version of scum hunting that I've come to get ignored when I try. So, I quit.
I liked this frustration, it felt very genuine.

But then... he disappears? Maybe he didn't want to get peer pressured into staying again, but I felt when people started backing off and giving him room he should have done something with it, followed up somehow,
anything
. But he just disappears like he just didn't have time and was going to replace out no matter what but it makes no sense that the trigger for him replacing out was him being quicklynched, or why that was of a particular bother to him when he was lurking/apathetic/not trying to sell anything to anyone anyways.

tl;dr I'm not sure what to feel about him except that he's a v good mod :]
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